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Do not want my son moving in with his girlfriend and her 2 children.

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myson123 · 14/02/2021 13:52

Hello. I am hoping I can get some advice from mum's of older/independent children.

I've got a 29 year old son, he is my eldest of 3 children. He has been with his girlfriend on/off for two and a half years and she has 2 children from her previous marriage. My son has a fantastic career which gives him a great lifestyle and he earns upwards of £50k with hefty bonuses. He has a brilliant friendship group from childhood, who myself and my husband have a really close relationship with too. He has bought himself a house in the same area as us - the area is also where his friends and the rest of our family live.

Since meeting his girlfriend, I feel like she is very controlling of our son. Even though he has a house (4 bedrooms!) and the perfect set up here, she is insistent that they move to her area, which is 2 hours away. This is because her children are at school and her family lives there. Whilst I can understand this, it means isolating my son from us, his family and his friends. He won't know anybody in her area. He won't be able to live the spontaneous life that he has been doing. It will also have massive financial repercussions as he will need to sell his house and buy one in her area. Her area is a lot more expensive, so he won't get as good a property for his money. She can contribute some money, but my son will be contributing £50k to her £10k. She also earns a lot less than my son, working only part-time, but she wants to be put on the house deeds 50/50.

She's been pressuring for him to live with her for quite some time, and this has meant they have split up countless times. He has made plans in the past to move in with her, then they argue, and he doesn't. He's now decided that if he is to be with her, he just needs to jump in feet first or he will lose her forever. She's said as much. He is madly in love with his girlfriend, but as his mum, I am very worried that it will all end in disaster. What can I do to help him?

OP posts:
Snowsnowglorioussnow · 14/02/2021 21:27

Jimmy, love doesn't follow such black and white rules.

Snowsnowglorioussnow · 14/02/2021 21:28

Silence, the siren is making him apparently...

Sounds like the typical idiotic man who is in lust... Can't possibly love this woman...

Caketroubles · 14/02/2021 21:29

never married/no kids /good career/own house
What is wrong with wanting to marry AFTER having a great career and a house?
Shouldn’t women have the same standards and expectations/aspirations as men?

Caketroubles · 14/02/2021 21:29

@Snowsnowglorioussnow

Silence, the siren is making him apparently...

Sounds like the typical idiotic man who is in lust... Can't possibly love this woman...

The man in lust who has broken up many times?
SoulofanAggron · 14/02/2021 21:30

GF works Part Time - RED FLAG

@jimmyjammy001 This isn't a red flag about her as a person when she has kids she's raising on her own.

@myson123 So what if they do get pregnant? That often happens in couples of childbearing age.

Caketroubles · 14/02/2021 21:30

Not to mention the ~ 1 year length of the relationship.

Snowsnowglorioussnow · 14/02/2021 21:33

Yes, people are saying being with her is clearly not what he wants. Surely you wouldn't date and sleep with a single mum unless you were serious?

He's messing her about if it's his job and money he's more committed too of course...

He's using her... Wasting her obvious beauty when she could find someone who actually wants to settle down and commit.. And who knows could be someone with '' baggage '' as well....

PADH · 14/02/2021 21:34

[quote Caketroubles]@PADH
Your situation sounds quite different than OP’s. Flowers[/quote]
I know its not exactly the same, but there are similarities. If you heard my MILs side I wouldn't be painted much different than the OP is painting her son's girlfriend. And I don't say that with judgement, I get that she's looking out for her son and is rightly worried. I have a son of my own and wouldn't want anyone taking advantage of him. But, he is a grown man and has to make his own decisions. I was simply highlighting the dangers of going too hard or crossing the line of where motherly concern and advice becomes controlling. Whether this relationship works out or not, she doesn't want to damage the relationship with her son.

LolaSmiles · 14/02/2021 21:35

Lola on the other hand she's put her children into it?
I'm not following. Her children are her responsibility, and in time they might became the OP's son's stepchildren. You're surely not going to suggest that it's reasonable for someone to demand 50% of an asset they've barely paid towards on the grounds that their contribution is the children they already have and are responsible for?

My issue is the giant red flag where Adult A thinks that Adult B should fund substantially more of a house purchase when they've never lived together and A wants to have a 50/50 claim.

I couldn't care less what sex A and B are.

LouJ85 · 14/02/2021 21:36

*If it was a man saying move in with me or il find someone else the replies would be very different.

OP , I'm sorry you got such a pile on. Totally uncalled for.

I agree with you 100%.

Especially with the difference in incomes and deposit amounts. He'd be called grabby. That he was looking for a maid, cleaner and someone to keep his bed warm.
Plus a whole host of other things. *

Agree with all of this. I'd love to see the replies the opposite way around.

VinylDetective · 14/02/2021 21:36

Wasting her obvious beauty

What obvious beauty? We’re deep in fantasy land now.

SandyY2K · 14/02/2021 21:37

OP... you're not a nightmare MIL. You're looking out for your son, just like any good mother would regardless of their age.

You haven't told your son not to do this. You haven't interfered...he's the one telling you about his relationship, which he's entitled to do. You're merely voicing concerns on an anonymous forum.

I can understand, as I wouldn't want my son or daughter to settle with a person who already has kids...relationships are complicated enough without having to raise children that aren't yours. Having teenagers saying "You're not my mum/dad".

Then if you do get bonded and close with them, you absolutely have no right to see them if you split up with their mum or dad, which is heartbreaking.

Then as a grandmother, you get called allsorts for not spending the same amount of money on gifts for the SGC as your own GC or not having SGC over for sleepovers or taking them on days out....when you wouldn't necessarily have the same bond with them.

It can be very stressful and a big headache, which far too many have no idea what they're signing up for as a step parent. I suspect your DS is one of them.

Her trying to control him and pressure him are concerning. Abuse often starts this way and can escalate.

Asides from the kids issue, wanting 50/50 on the deeds, when she's contributing much less doesn't paint her in a good light.

RootyT00t · 14/02/2021 21:37

@Snowsnowglorioussnow

Yes, people are saying being with her is clearly not what he wants. Surely you wouldn't date and sleep with a single mum unless you were serious?

He's messing her about if it's his job and money he's more committed too of course...

He's using her... Wasting her obvious beauty when she could find someone who actually wants to settle down and commit.. And who knows could be someone with '' baggage '' as well....

Maybe he does seriously love her.

He just doesn't want to uproot his life and move in with her and her children.

Doesn't mean he doesn't love her.

People with children seem to think that rules all and he must move. It's perfectly valid of him to not want to. Doesn't mean he doesn't love her

Menora · 14/02/2021 21:37

I really hate this thread it’s great example of why I left MN for so long. God forbid people (grown adults) want to get married, have kids and build lives together. There have been lots of sensible suggestions and advice here which is all thrown away and ignored so that people can pass their snobby judgment on lower earning single parents who have the audacity to want a committed solid stable relationship. I’m sure this man is old enough to protect his own assets and if he doesn’t then that’s on him. This woman isn’t trapping him she’s given him the opportunity to walk away. Frankly he sounds like he isn’t really mature enough or ready to take on the role of a husband and stepdad, I hope for the kids sake he just makes a decision and stops with the back and forth

RootyT00t · 14/02/2021 21:37

@VinylDetective

Wasting her obvious beauty

What obvious beauty? We’re deep in fantasy land now.

OP said she's very attractive.
flobberdobberrr · 14/02/2021 21:38

Have you considered how much pressure you might be putting on him?

RootyT00t · 14/02/2021 21:39

They've been together for two years!!!!!!

MN has lost the plot tonight.

In no other world would him being a husband and stepdad and having another baby when they haven't lived together and have split up numerous times be encouraged, let alone anyone who thinks it's a bad idea be berated!

HeidiHaughton · 14/02/2021 21:39

I would hope if my adult ds wanted advice he'd take it on board even if he did not follow it.
I can't understand the rush to move in and effectively act like a married couple when this is not a stable relationship.
I agree the chance of a "surprise" baby is very high. I've seen this happen several times when a relationship is clearly not meant to last. A baby will be far more of a life commitment in this situation than moving in together.
I wonder why people rush into these pretend marriage situations when they have no need to.

VinylDetective · 14/02/2021 21:39

OP said she's very attractive

Thank you, I missed that.

alexdgr8 · 14/02/2021 21:39

you cannot live his life for him.
i think you are trying to.
leave him alone and respect his choices.
you are so prejudiced, and sound snobbish; multiple children indeed. is that 2.
no wonder he wants to get away from mummy's leading reins.

RootyT00t · 14/02/2021 21:40

@VinylDetective

OP said she's very attractive

Thank you, I missed that.

I'm not surprised given the onslaught. OP is probably long gone and I don't blame her.

I've honestly not been as baffled by responses in a long time.

RootyT00t · 14/02/2021 21:40

@alexdgr8

you cannot live his life for him. i think you are trying to. leave him alone and respect his choices. you are so prejudiced, and sound snobbish; multiple children indeed. is that 2. no wonder he wants to get away from mummy's leading reins.
He doesn't.
LolaSmiles · 14/02/2021 21:40

VinylDetective
Threads like this always get into fantasy land.

Apparently whatever a woman does is perfectly reasonable, even if comparable conduct from a man would be rightly challenged... unless the woman is a stepmother or a mother in law. Step mothers and mothers in law are obviously all that is wrong with the world and they should be caring but not too caring, totally supportive but also totally detached. They have to play the game of 'guess what the DP's ex/DP's partner wants' when the odds are anything they say or do means they lose.

Wherearemymarbles · 14/02/2021 21:42

Its interesting how many posters completely
ignore the fact the gf wants half the house with out contributing even close to half- maybe they just view men as meal tickets as well.

I suspect the gf would also expect ops son to pay all the mortgage as well.

Snowsnowglorioussnow · 14/02/2021 21:42

Op has admitted she's very attractive?

Nothing has been mentioned about happiness.. If op had said he's a changed man, hollow shell always broke etc... Different story.
She's only said he's concerned about moving and he loves her.
The lady has made their commitment of allowing her dc to meet and get to know this man.. That's a massive step and commitment... Is it not?
I can't believe people saying 2 dc red flag..
We don't know if her partner had even passed away
I'm can't believe they say part time job red flag!! She has 2 dc!!

I can't believe people who put all this before love!