To think that there's something more to these famous women's dramatic weight losses?

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Over the last year or so, I've seen Adele, Rebel Wilson and Kelly Osbourne dramatically lose weight. They look amazing, and completely different. It's in their faces too. Is there some new kind of weight loss surgery going around, or is it really just diet and exercise? I love all these women no matter what their size, and I struggle with weight loss myself and admire them for being healthy and looking incredibly fit. But is something going on that's not available to the masses? (no pun intended)

The bariatric surgery naysayers on this thread literally sound like those idiots who tell people with serious enduring mental health problems to try a positive mental attitude and some self care in the form of a hot bath, a candle and some crochet.

You’ve absolutely no fucking idea what you’re talking about, and theres no wonder that celebs are cagey about potentially having had surgery if there’s a significant proportion of the population out there who think like you do.

At the end of the day, these are adult women trying to do their best for themselves to heal problems that they’ve carried with them for their whole lives.

And for the person who asked, yes I have had bariatric surgery, and no I’m not sensitive about it, it was the decision I needed to make for myself after extensive psychotherapy in an eating disorders service and most of my teens, twenties and early thirties spent hating myself and pouring my money into the diet industry and never reaping any sustained rewards.

FWIW, I’ve never done a single diet or calorie counting exercise that has required the self discipline and hard work that having surgery has. But I wouldn’t change it, the mental peace from diets and self hatred alone is worth the £12,000 it cost me.

Maybe more people should be allowed access to surgery, so that there aren’t so many people out there struggling and failing and repeating the same cycle over and over.

Actually I'd be gutted if adele has had surgery for weight loss. I trusted her when she said it was down to diet and exercise and I thought Good on you!! But if it's just expensive surgery most of us could never afford that she didnt admit to, that feels like a kick in the teeth.

@QueenOfPain

FWIW, I’ve never done a single diet or calorie counting exercise that has required the self discipline and hard work that having surgery has. But I wouldn’t change it, the mental peace from diets and self hatred alone is worth the £12,000 it cost me.

Maybe more people should be allowed access to surgery, so that there aren’t so many people out there struggling and failing and repeating the same cycle over and over.

So why did you have surgery? What was it about surgery that made you think you could do the hard work and discipline there that you couldn't do with a traditional diet? Or was it that diets didn't work? If surgery is so hard (and I do believe it is) why can't people who have it succeed at other methods of weight loss.

Not being goady, I'm genuinely interested.

I've watched my 600lb life a fair amount and some people on their obviously think it is the easy way out, and it clearly isn't.

@greenlandthemoviedon't believe you, sorry. Those pbs are the same as my DH who is a club runner who regularly places in the top 10 of amateur events of 5-600 people. Times like that are the absolute top speed of non professional running for women, and those women eat a lot.*

I run and have loads of friends who run.(at all different speeds including as good as the times posted here)
One of the best things about running is the food after a race I'm pretty sure none of the best runners I know regularly eat 800kcal/day.

To add. What guts me is not that adele might have had surgery, that's her choice, but if she did its the fact she sold her amazing weight loss as down to hard work and willpower, when it actually might just be surgery. She seems a totally honest up front person so for her to not be honest with her fans feels horrible.

It shouldn't feel horrible when you don't even have a reason to actually believ it was a surgery except for some gossip somewhere 👀
I still wonder if you all question male celebrities like this and just assume it had to be a surgery or of you reserve this just for women...

I don't know why so many people are so interested in other people's weights and diets. My DM is one of them, fecking obsessed with the shape and size of everyone she knows; if she sees a friend for the first time in a while the first thing she will tell me when we're next talking is whether they have lost weight, gained weight, stayed the same. She is another one who seems offended by anyone having surgery to support them to loose weight. Weirdo.

I know for a fact that one can lose 7 stone in 2 years by diet and exercise...

@WatchWatch

I guess multiple factors really; I viewed it as my “last chance” to sort things, and realised if this didn’t work, I would be back to diets and failures.
I knew it had cost so much money and that I couldn’t allow myself to waste that investment.

Most of all, I didn’t want to cause myself overt physical harm (as opposed to the insidious harm caused by chronically over eating and binging) by not sticking to the rules when my body no longer has the capacity for that volume of food. There is also the fear of “dumping syndrome” which can happen if you eat the wrong foods, or eat too quickly or drink fluids too soon after eating flushing food into your bowel too quickly.

My surgery has also completely decimated my appetite (due to hormonal changes and the effects on Ghrelin production) so I am eating to survive now instead of eating to squash my emotions, comfort myself, for entertainment or whatever else I was doing before.

It was a massive reset button, emotionally and physically that I couldn’t have achieved in any other way.

I don't understand the disbelief that celebrities can lose weight naturally? It's not rocket science, it's not easy but it's not complicated. Add to the fact they have the resources to pay for PTIs, chefs or just very nice healthy food they have it easier than most to start with. Plus we know Adele is recently single and a break up has got to be the next best thing to bariatric surgery to encourage weight loss!!!

Another strangely serendipitous thing that happened post op; I was so worried about the anaesthetic and surgery recovery going wrong due to my BMI or some other undiscovered health complication, that when everything went beautifully I started to reconnect with some thanks and appreciation for my body and what it does for me. Three weeks after surgery I then caught covid, and again was absolutely terrified that I was done for and going to end up in intensive care due to my BMI, but it didn’t happen. I was okay, my body did it’s job, it was no worse than a cold. And that sealed the deal for me, I will honestly never say a bad word about my body ever again. It did it’s best for me on two occasions when I could have been very sick and I’m grateful for that and intend to repay it with care and love.

Kelly admitted she had a gastric sleeve didn't she?

They have the money for personal trainers, top exercise equipment, special diet foods etc. They have surgery to remove any loose skin after weight loss, skin treatments etc. A lot of their pictures are heavily edited though to make them look even slimmer and their skin smoother.

[quote Pukkatea]@Iamthewombat don't worry, no actual decent runner would be telling people online that the trick to improving their 10k time is to get their weight down.[/quote]
You obviously haven't met the typical track coach then. It is a constant pressure on athletes. If I was training or racing anywhere near seriously at this time, I wouldn't even go near a chocolate bar or a cake for weeks on end.

But yes, obviously I'm making it all up and no-one cares about their weight, or alternatively, everyone eats the mythical perfect diet all the time. And celebrities all have gastric sleeves inserted the moment they become famous.

@Exhausteddog

* *@greenlandthemoviedon't believe you, sorry. Those pbs are the same as my DH who is a club runner who regularly places in the top 10 of amateur events of 5-600 people. Times like that are the absolute top speed of non professional running for women, and those women eat a lot.

I run and have loads of friends who run.(at all different speeds including as good as the times posted here)
One of the best things about running is the food after a race I'm pretty sure none of the best runners I know regularly eat 800kcal/day.

I'm not even going to bother reading the trash talk you're referring to above, but the time I gave aren't anywhere near top speed, I don't even win or necessarily place in my local 10k (and I don't always break 40 by any means, my last one was 42 xx). But thanks for your understanding. I will never know why women on here have to be quite so bitter and nasty to someone just sharing their experiences. I've just had a look on Power of Ten, and 1072 women in 2019 (our last full year of racing) went under 40 minutes for 10k, many of them multiple times.

We are actually advised in my club and by our coaching assistant to specifically avoid reading negative personal comments on social media. Particularly the younger athletes, as they can really take negative or silly comments on board, and we very much want them to get good advice.

But certainly restricting your food intake before track sessions is a thing. Perhaps no-one talks about it that much, but I'd be surprised if at least half of all women athletes down the typical track aren't doing it.

But yes, of course you would be enjoying eating more before a longer race (I call anything over 3000m long...) or after the race, although I have dieted through a few non-target races.

I'd rather do what I do a few times a year for a short period than be stuck on a strict diet for weeks and months on end, and it works for me and doesn't make me miserable, etc.. Once you start fat burning, it doesn't feel so bad. Some things work better for people than other. I actually know lots of non-athletes who have similar methods, but don't post on mumsnet or don't necessarily talk about it.

You certainly wouldn't want too eat much before a shorter race. I remember reading in AW that the winner of the National XC that year, when asked what she ate for breakfast the day before her win, replied "a Digestive biscuit".

Kelly had a gastric sleeve and has been very open about it which I love as it helps do away with some of the stigma that it's cheating. You still have to work darn hard when you have surgery.

@GreenlandTheMovie
Noone is being bitter towards you, it was you bringing up stats to have a dick waving contest and making catty comments like suggesting posters with good 10k times should lose weight.

I happen to know many club runners - as I said, my DH is a club runner and has been in several locations, and his coach is a good friend. They are all very supportive lovely people and the coaches certainly aren't telling anyone to lose weight. Perhaps if runners are so susceptible to negative comments you should practice what you preach. I find it hard to believe anyone who could run at your level would struggle with weight to such an extent but hey ho, I'm not you am I. Congrats on those pbs.

Pukkatea

Noone is being bitter towards you

a dick waving contest and making catty comments

I find it hard to believe anyone who could run at your level would struggle with weight to such an extent

I don't struggle with my weight, and just breaking 40 mins for 10k isn't really any high level. Why are you saying these things?

Some people just need to chill. Its nice to share our experiences of diet and exercise, I'm not thin, I don't struggle with my weight, this is just what I and many people in the real world, not the perfect world of mumsnet do. Not everyone, everyone is different, but this is what works for me and some others.

Clearly not the sort of place where you should dare to mention running times at all, unless suitably middle of the pack.

@QueenOfPain your story touched me, I’m so glad you have had a chance to heal.

Personal trainer daily & a personal chef. Plus Rebel is always being photo'd on hikes , so I'd guess a daily ten mile hike with your partner on top of that & its going to make it drop off .

You don't need a personal trainer or a personal chef to lose weight. It doesn't cost money to lose weight, it really just doesn't. Vegetables are cheap.

@2typesofjungle

You don't need a personal trainer or a personal chef to lose weight. It doesn't cost money to lose weight, it really just doesn't. Vegetables are cheap.

I agree. Obviously the things mentioned help, but it's doable without spending loads

@2typesofjungle of course not....but when you've got someone coming to your house every day to train with you, or someone cooking a healthy delicious meal for you so you don't have the temptation to reach for the phone for a takeaway after a long day, then it's a bit easier than for most people. It can be cheap to cook healthy food yes, but the thing I personally struggle with is finding the time to research new exciting healthy meals so I don't get bored, shop for them (when it's so much easier to cook the same meals and add the same ingredients you know how to find), then follow a recipe, doing that 7 days a week on top of work and childcare is a struggle, I've often thought I could maintain a slimmer weight more easily with a personal chef!

Bloody hell you make it sound proper hard.