To think that there's something more to these famous women's dramatic weight losses?

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Over the last year or so, I've seen Adele, Rebel Wilson and Kelly Osbourne dramatically lose weight. They look amazing, and completely different. It's in their faces too. Is there some new kind of weight loss surgery going around, or is it really just diet and exercise? I love all these women no matter what their size, and I struggle with weight loss myself and admire them for being healthy and looking incredibly fit. But is something going on that's not available to the masses? (no pun intended)

Also, barely anyone has a gastric band these days. They’re antiquated.

People are having Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomies or RNY Gastric Bypass surgery.

And none of that is an easy way out either. It’s a far, far bigger undertaking than doing a diet for a few months and then going back to your old ways.

This thread is quite sad. Adele hasn’t admitted surgery. The posts read like you can’t loose weight unless you have surgery. You can. Plenty do it. Every day, and this amount of weight too.

Kelly Osbourne lost loads of weight years ago through diet and exercise but couldn't keep it off and regained most of it. I think this time she has confirmed she had surgery.

Rebel Wilson had a year of healthy living which she often put pictures up on Instagram for, she appears to have done it through healthy eating and exercise, granted she can probably afford a personal trainer etc more than the next person but she has done amazingly well, hasn’t gone to the extreme and looks really good. Wish I had her will power

Adele was losing wait gradually for a while, it didn’t happen in a few months. She wasn’t in the public eye when she lost the final amounts so she could of had surgery but just as much could have worked hard. It’s very possible.

@QueenOfPain

Also, barely anyone has a gastric band these days. They’re antiquated.

People are having Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomies or RNY Gastric Bypass surgery.

And none of that is an easy way out either. It’s a far, far bigger undertaking than doing a diet for a few months and then going back to your old ways.

It's still a pretty poor message to send out to young women. You're fat- pay for surgery to make you thin. You're poor- oh. The fact that so many famous women resort to surgery like this speaks for itself both about how society judges weight, and women. Fat= can't be successful Thin= sorted.

I have lost a lot of weight, quickly. My face has changed a lot. I did not have surgery, I did not consult a nutritionist or anyone else, I did not go to the gym or have a personal trainer. I am not rich!
I do not have loose skin.
Lots of assumptions on this thread...

I don't know where the "before" photo has gone...

I’d guess coke and smoking?

Tapeworms. Bet it's tapeworms

I can't comment in surgery and wouldn't comment on something so speculative, but eating 600-800 calories and exercising (running, exercise classes, swimming, cycling, not just walking) does make you lose weight. So irs entirely possible that someone motivated by constantly seeing themselves in the public eye could lose weight.

God knows how anyone could lose weight on the 1600 calories mentioned above (although I know it's mums net, and someone will probably come along to say they've lost 10 stone on 1600 calories a day without exercising and now weigh 8 stones). My friends who haven't succumbed to middle aged spread all have rigid will power and would typically stick to a diet of 800 calories a day or similar, perhaps 9 or 10 days on, a couple of days off, then another 7, 3 days off, another week, rinse and repeat.

It's not some kind of great mysterious secret only known to famous women. And yes, of course weight loss will make most oeooles' faces look different too!

Even if they have all had a gastric bypass or whatever, weight loss is not easy.

They will still be at the gym every day, sweating their asses off, not eating chocolate. Or drinking wine or doing the rest of the stuff that made us fat.

If I was on tv and constantly in the papers I'd cringe every time I seen how fat I'd become, it would definately spur me on to lose weight.

As an aside, I watched @GreenlandTheMovie at the weekend 😃

The film, not spying on the poster

@ToadsThePeanutButterSnob

Probably eating healthily and exercising.

Get away!

Adele and Kelly have had bariatric surgery and more surgery fillers botox etc. Than you can shake a stick at.
(Kelly and Sharon's surgeon does EXCELLENT work)

Kelly at least is honest about it.

Rebel I'd say might have legit lost the weight.

It's disingenuous and misleading to lie and I don't like the false expectations it sets for general population.

Rebel I'd say might have legit lost the weight

They have all legit lost the weight. Even if they had surgery they still put in the work. Weight loss is never easy.

Do you go onto threads where someone is contemplating bariatric surgery and scream at them “well you won’t have legit lost it”. Does it not count if they have surgery?

Why can’t women be pleased for other women?

Shaming fat people makes them less likely to lose weight and more likely to gain: www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-49714697

Genes are not just an excuse. Obesity is heritable to some degree for everyone, possibly as much as height, and particularly for people who have been overweight for most of their lives and whose parents are overweight: www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-people-become-overweight

Binge eating disorder and adult obesity are highly associated with experience of trauma and PTSD: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5322988/

Those of you who mock the "genetics brigade" and reduce turning around emotional eating and obesity bedded in over many years to "just don't walk to the larder" are massively underestimating the struggle that obese adults face in bringing their weight down. Yes, you can lose weight even if your genes predispose you to be overweight, but it is very hard and maintaining it in the face of an environment full of excess, fatty, sugary food is even harder. If you really care about obesity as an issue, stop being part of the problem.

(4 out of 6 stone down after a lifetime of obesity and bingeing and an awful lot of therapy, exercise and counselling)

How many calories per day are you on OP? I'm 5'3 and was a curvy 10. I went to 1,200 last summer now I'm a size 8/10. But I've just had to go to 1,000 cals/day to keep on losing weight.

@GreenlandTheMovie

I can't comment in surgery and wouldn't comment on something so speculative, but eating 600-800 calories and exercising (running, exercise classes, swimming, cycling, not just walking) does make you lose weight. So irs entirely possible that someone motivated by constantly seeing themselves in the public eye could lose weight.

God knows how anyone could lose weight on the 1600 calories mentioned above (although I know it's mums net, and someone will probably come along to say they've lost 10 stone on 1600 calories a day without exercising and now weigh 8 stones). My friends who haven't succumbed to middle aged spread all have rigid will power and would typically stick to a diet of 800 calories a day or similar, perhaps 9 or 10 days on, a couple of days off, then another 7, 3 days off, another week, rinse and repeat.

It's not some kind of great mysterious secret only known to famous women. And yes, of course weight loss will make most oeooles' faces look different too!

I'm losing weight eating a lot more calories then that! It doesn't need to be low calorie, it just has to be less calories then your body uses (caloric deficit).

@WouldBeGood

As an aside, I watched *@GreenlandTheMovie* at the weekend 😃

Hope you enjoyed it! I need to change my username because I had been looking furward to seeing it and then the rekease date kept getting pushed back, so it just stuck in my mind! But it's a good, entertaining film.

I would think either surgery or throwing money personal chefs and personal trainers. Hell if I had the money I'd be doing the same!

Re the great calorie debate, the more you need to lose the more calories you can eat. I can lose 2 pounds a week on 1700 calories. I've lost 1.5 stone doing that and have about 4 stone left to go. The only exercise I get is walking and I have a very sedentary job.

Didn't realise Rebel Wilson has, just Googled, she's looking great!

I saw a documentary recently on one guys weight loss/bulking up journey and he said that if he could do it anyone could.

We were laughing as not only did he have a personal trainer and then a trainer to bulk out his muscles and skin removal surgery he also had a dietician move in and cook all his meals. The dietician left for a little while for personal reasons and he started returning to his old way of eating and only got back on track when the dietician returned.

I think with enough money to pay for people to make all your food and get you to exercise for 3 hours per day and massages and treatments you can lose weight and look great.
I wonder what these people would look like without the entourage.

But I do love the idea that according to some on this board losing weight is just willpower and it is in some way lazy or immoral to have weight loss surgery. There's a thread on the weight loss board here about bariatric surgery. The contributors have all tried every means available of losing weight and have opted for surgery because they weren't able to achieve and maintain a healthy weight any other way. The surgery is brutal and the changes you have to make to how you eat afterwards are huge. It is a different option but really, really not an easy option, regardless of how much money you have. (Although I'm not sure why it would be bad to take an easy option for achieving and maintaining a healthy weight if it was available.)

A PP asks why I think that celebrities having bariatric surgery to lose weight, then being evasive/defensive/untruthful about it sets a poor example to young women:

That Adele had a problem with her weight so decided to have life saving surgery to take back control of her health?

I assume that the poster has also had bariatric surgery, hence the defensiveness. Was Adele’s life in danger? Or Kelly Osborne’s?

Both were certainly overweight. Both had made themselves overweight through their own actions.

They could have gone for a complete lifestyle change: not the daily 800 calorie madness described upthread, but moving away from processed foods, cutting down sugar, exercising etc to alter their body’s responses to food and reduce their insulin levels. That would have been ‘life saving’ too.

But no, they decide to have most of their stomachs chopped away so that they physically can’t eat much. It’s just ahorrible, brutal thing to do to your own body. It’s the 21st century equivalent of jaw wiring.

Do we want young women, whom we know are influenced by celebrities, to think that this is something to aspire to?

Weight loss surgery is proven to be the most effective method and lose weight and keep it off.

No, the most effective way is not to get fat in the first place. I get that when some people have been morbidly obese for years that they have messed up their body’s ability to regulate insulin and leptin (the satiety signal).

If you have not been morbidly obese for years then the best thing to do is knock off the KFC, Dominos, crisps and chocolate and move towards eating better food. Combined with exercise.

How is that less effective than bariatric surgery? It might not be as quick, but if somebody has gained weight over a long period, it will take a while to lose.

Of course, some people want a quick solution that doesn’t require as much willpower. Enter the bariatric surgeon.

I’m not sure that’s a poor example to set.

Aren’t you sure? I am. I bet the cosmetic surgery clinics are expanding their bariatric surgery capacity already.

Would you have preferred her to sell some shakes on her IG and put out an exercise tape?

Yes, because those were the only two options available to Adele, weren’t they? (1) having bariatric surgery and not admitting to it or (2) selling shakes - what’s even in that stuff? - and an exercise video.