To think that there's something more to these famous women's dramatic weight losses?

[blubberball]

Over the last year or so, I've seen Adele, Rebel Wilson and Kelly Osbourne dramatically lose weight. They look amazing, and completely different. It's in their faces too. Is there some new kind of weight loss surgery going around, or is it really just diet and exercise? I love all these women no matter what their size, and I struggle with weight loss myself and admire them for being healthy and looking incredibly fit. But is something going on that's not available to the masses? (no pun intended)

Lol yes because weight loss surgery is the easy way out

Weight loss injections apparently are THE thing

Sarah Vine write about it in the DM

We should also maybe just not do "omg she lost weight, must be a surgery". It's bit crass and I doubt people would say that about a guy

Healthy eating and a personal trainer I'd assume. Even kerry katona reappeared like a shiny penny.
With exercise Healthy eating and determination I believe it was possible for them to transform.
Bad food plays havoc with bowels and skin.

I find all the chat of “quick fixes” and “what do you eat in a day” really depressing. It’s not a secret to eat less and move more, but people seem to believe that faddy diets work. All the “I do slimming world / weight watchers” threads plus the people who think that walking a few miles a day will be a big factor in weight loss. It doesn’t work, those programmes are a massive con whose business model are designed for people to fail and come back time and again.

@Totallydefeated

Plenty of good quality sleep, low stress levels and a healthy sense of self worth are, in my experience, really important starting points - and for lots of people these feel way out of reach to the point where they are lost as to how to start

Agree Wobbly , these are all foundational. But not always as easy to achieve as they sound. At the moment, in lockdown trying to homeschool for 6 hours a day plus do a full time 8-10 hour a day job, I have no way of achieving enough sleep or carving out enough time to properly de stress, for example. I’m not actually overweight or trying to lose, but my lifestyle isn’t healthy at the moment, through no fault of my own, all the factors making it so are currently external.

Yep, absolutely. For many people these are not easy, and for others they are practically impossible to achieve whilst still priorising other aspects of their lives, such as childcare, jobs, dealing with the impact of a little old pandemic.

Which is why I struggle with the 'I did it, so can you' point of view I see here. Because I am not you. You are not me. We have different lives, bodies, opportunities and struggles.

Surgery most likely.

@ShirleyPhallus

I find all the chat of “quick fixes” and “what do you eat in a day” really depressing. It’s not a secret to eat less and move more, but people seem to believe that faddy diets work. All the “I do slimming world / weight watchers” threads plus the people who think that walking a few miles a day will be a big factor in weight loss. It doesn’t work, those programmes are a massive con whose business model are designed for people to fail and come back time and again.

I agree. It seems like majority of people have to keep returning. In that case it hasn't really worked. It's a business. They won't be teaching you how to reevaluate your food habits to eat to sustain weight and be well. If someone has to return to weight loss programme every year, it hadn't worked.

If I had a PT that came to my house everyday and a personal chef I'd be looking trim too!

Weight loss is hard, will power, mental barriers, fear of failure etc. I've always been big, the funny, fat friend!! But over this past year I've ballooned up again to nearly 17 stones and I'm disappointed and disgusted with myself so I started Noom about 5 weeks ago, but really got in to it about 3 weeks ago and actually made an effort like stopped snacking and drinking wine every day. I've lost 12 pounds so far and I'm feeling much better already, reduced my bmi by 2 points so I'm heading in the right direction. I've done a few other things like brought myself the fast 800 diet book for recipes which are delicious and simple because it's all low cal, brought smaller cutlery and use smaller plates. I know I'm in for a long hard slog with this and I'm going to fuck it up sometimes but instead of giving up, I know it's ok to fuck up and move on rather than just giving up!! Yes it would be much easier to have all the money to have chefs and personal trainers and plastic surgeons on call but it really boils down to you and will power and good support. My DP is doing this with me and it's making the weight loss so much easier. My next big step is to start exercising and this fat bum takes a lot of effort to move!!

@Totallydefeated I have never seen anyone here say anything like that fat people would be thick. Except fat people.

Really Schrodinger? I’m surprised. I see it implied often - not said outright as in ‘fat people who fail at losing weight must be really thick, it’s obvious what they need to do*.

It’s not quite that overt. It’s more implied - ‘I did it and it was hard, but I just must be more disciplined than you’ kind of vibe.

Lost track of the post which described my post talking about how I go on 800 calories a day, on and off, when I want to get my weight under control, as "madness".

No, Its not madness, and I'm not mad. Madness is allowing yourself to develop Type 2 diabetes or other health problems because you can't control your own food intake. Madness is expecting people with unhealthy eating habits, surrounded by people with unhealthy eating habits, to suddenly convert to this magical "healthy eating plan", which in most cases is completely unsustainable.

Madness is not expecting to be hungry if you want to lose weight. Madness is thinking everyone else who loses weight had surgery. Madness is thinking that everyone has the same metabolic rate.

Many, many people who are slim watch their weight by dieting on and off for a few days or a few weeks at a time. Human beings can exist perfectly well on limited calories for such a duration, because human beings were designed to cope with times of low food supplies. They cope far better with it than with continual over-eating of rich foods and not moving about enough.

Famous women are in the limelight and most of them are far thinner than the average woman on the street because they diet. They wouldn't be famous if they didn't diet, because a lot of them rely on their looks to enhance their talent/careers and because Hollywood wouldn't employ them if they weren't slim. There are exceptions but thats the general rule. They can't all continually be having surgery or on drugs, because drugs show up on your face. It is perfectly possible to diet and work out so as to maintain a slim figure if you are determined enough. Britain is a particularly obese country but there are still plenty of slim women here to show that it is possible.

Which is why I struggle with the 'I did it, so can you' point of view I see here. Because I am not you. You are not me. We have different lives, bodies, opportunities and struggles.

Agree 💯 Wobbly. So many fail to realise that others are not them, and face different challenges.

Thanks @Totallydefeated. Lots of self reflection and self learning to understand why I'm sabotaging myself from what I want but literally creating "padding" around myself. It's certainly a challenge to break through the emotional and addictive barriers. But getting there!

[quote Totallydefeated]**@Totallydefeated I have never seen anyone here say anything like that fat people would be thick. Except fat people.

Really Schrodinger? I’m surprised. I see it implied often - not said outright as in ‘fat people who fail at losing weight must be really thick, it’s obvious what they need to do*.

It’s not quite that overt. It’s more implied - ‘I did it and it was hard, but I just must be more disciplined than you’ kind of vibe.[/quote]
Tbh I think lots of this is subjective and everyone takes it differently.
I would honestly just take that second sentence did "meh, yeah, you probs are" and that's it.

@Ginevere
@joystir59 that’s an amazing weight loss, well done! When you say healthy eating, can I ask what you ate?
I stuck to 1200 calories a day and ate lots of fruit and veg, hummus, thin slices of cheddar, fish, nuts, eggs, semi skimmed milk, low fat yoghurt, salad, olive oil (measured by the tsp) occasional carbs such as pasta bread and potatoes but not regularly. Saturdays were (still are) 'free days' when I get to eat choc, crisps, ice-cream, whatever I fancy although after the first few weeks I didn't eat much different from the rest of the week tbh. This new way of eating was not and is not a diet- I like all the things I eat. I used portion control. I did already exercise a lot cos have an active Jack Russell Terrier and live in a hilly place. I weigh myself every morning before getting dressed. I have had an addictive relationship with food all my adult life, yo'yoing between 9st and 15st. I am 5' 7". At 63 I cannot bear to be big again. I've always been health conscious and really know how much better I feel physically and mentally when I'm slim. At certain times in my life when life has been intense or exciting I have maintained a stable weight effortlessly, and I do think that being very engaged with life might be part of success with weight control.

Lost track of the post which described my post talking about how I go on 800 calories a day, on and off, when I want to get my weight under control, as "madness".

That was me and I’m afraid that I stand by my assertion that attempting to lose weight by living on 800 calories a day is foolish.

It’s a really good way to mess up your metabolism.

No, Its not madness, and I'm not mad.

I didn’t say that you were mad. Calm down.

Madness is allowing yourself to develop Type 2 diabetes or other health problems because you can't control your own food intake.

Can you see that there is a huge range of eating styles between ‘800 calories a day starvation’ and ‘eating so much that you become diabetic or develop some other metabolic disorder’?

@FluffyBlueJumper you look great!

Can I ask what you weighed before abs after? And how you did it?

I'm reluctant to get into anything to complicated. I'm just trying to eat less and move more but I'm not sure it's working...

@Iamthewombat

Lost track of the post which described my post talking about how I go on 800 calories a day, on and off, when I want to get my weight under control, as "madness".

That was me and I’m afraid that I stand by my assertion that attempting to lose weight by living on 800 calories a day is foolish.

It’s a really good way to mess up your metabolism.

No, Its not madness, and I'm not mad.

I didn’t say that you were mad. Calm down.

Madness is allowing yourself to develop Type 2 diabetes or other health problems because you can't control your own food intake.

Can you see that there is a huge range of eating styles between ‘800 calories a day starvation’ and ‘eating so much that you become diabetic or develop some other metabolic disorder’?

I haven't "messed up my metabolism". I'm a size 8/10. When I was in my twenties, I was a size 14. Like many slim people however, I like to eat chocolate rather too much. And I realise that I can only eat chocolate if I also watch my wait.

I don't "live on 800 calories a day" - I find that 800 calories a day for 5-6 days at a time, with a break and then back on again for 2 or 3 weeks, is a really good way of keeping my weight under control. I don't live every day on 800 calories a day - why have you invented that?

Don't tell me to "calm down" - try and think of a sensible argument, rather than throwing around wild accusations and making up nonsense about what other people haven't actually said they do.

And if you are trying to tell slim, healthy people how to stay slim, I damned well hope you are an absolute picture of slim, healthiness yourself!

@YenneferOfBattenberg

I think it's a result of hard work. But also the personal trainers, dieticians, time, and money that the average person probably doesn't have (quite the same level of) access to.

This for sure

#wait? Weight.

Well I actually really like healthy food and would choose it over junk.
But I get fed up of thinking what to cook, shopping for it, preparing food and cleaning up. So sometimes I just stick a ready meal in.
If I had a personal chef I think my diet would be brilliant.

@greenlandthemovie 1600 calories is a weight loss intake for many people, you need approx 500 calories less than your TDEE per day to lose 2lbs per week. If you're short or sedentary it may be too much calories but if not then it can be a good number for weight loss.

Weight loss injections. Surgery. Drugs.

And sorry but unless you have a serious medical issue then I don't think you're counting your calories right. If you GENUINELY usually eat 800 calories a day you would be emaciated by now