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To insist on vaccinated carers

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Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 08/02/2021 18:57

One of the carers who goes into my elderly mum has refused the vaccine (she told mum) I'm really annoyed and want to request to the management that she doesn't attend to mum anymore. I feel if she wants to do this job she should have the vaccine in order to protect her clients. I know there's no proof yet it will protect against transmission on but most scientists believe it will. AIBU?

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Redrunbluerun · 11/02/2021 10:58

It’s a shame the carer doesn’t care about protecting the vulnerable or the NHS. It’s our only way out of this and everyone that can be vaccinated, should.
Otherwise we’ll be fucked forever

stairway · 11/02/2021 11:04

There are quite a few healthcare workers who have already had covid either mildly or asymptomaticly so there is little personal benefit to having the vaccine, it would be just to protect vulnerable patients. There is a small risk in having the vaccine so I can see why some have declined. It seems wrong to force people into having a vaccine.

CoalTit · 11/02/2021 11:33

Can you point me to any medical or scientific body (or even individual!) saying the vaccine is not safe or that it's wise not to get it?
The former chair of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe Health Committee, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, and Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former Vice-President and Chief Scientific Officer at Pfizer Global R&D, filed a petition in December calling on the European Medicine Agency to halt the Phase III clinical trials of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine until they are restructured to address critical safety concerns associated with this experimental technology.

Belladonna12 · 11/02/2021 12:10

@CoalTit

Can you point me to any medical or scientific body (or even individual!) saying the vaccine is not safe or that it's wise not to get it? The former chair of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe Health Committee, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, and Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former Vice-President and Chief Scientific Officer at Pfizer Global R&D, filed a petition in December calling on the European Medicine Agency to halt the Phase III clinical trials of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine until they are restructured to address critical safety concerns associated with this experimental technology.
Considering Michael Yeadon also argued in October that a vaccine wasn't needed anyway because the pandemic was over and there wouldn't be a second wave, I don't think much of his expertise. He is probably the type of academic/scientist who just likes to predict the opposite of what everyone else is saying knowing that if he ever get something right he will be remembered for that rather than everything he got wrong.
londonscalling · 12/02/2021 02:34

If I was the employer I'd want to ensure all staff are vaccinated. Not just to protect the client/patient but also to protect my employee from picking it up from a patient. I feel I'd have a duty of care to keep everyone safe!

peasinmysoup · 12/02/2021 23:23

If you work in healthcare in the uk it is recommended that you have up to date vaccination for all sorts of diseases.
Hepatitis, tb, flu.
Employers cannot insist but many will ask that you sign a waiver to say you declined a vaccine and understand the risk that puts you under.

Belladonna12 · 13/02/2021 19:02

@peasinmysoup

If you work in healthcare in the uk it is recommended that you have up to date vaccination for all sorts of diseases. Hepatitis, tb, flu. Employers cannot insist but many will ask that you sign a waiver to say you declined a vaccine and understand the risk that puts you under.
They can't insist you have a vaccination but they can also dismiss people who don't have one if they have worked there for less than two years. The fact that they haven't chosen to do that so far doesn't mean they never will.
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