to think that Jackie Weaver is a hero to feminism?

[PyongyangKipperbang]

Because I refuse to believe that those appalling men would have spoken to another man the way they attempted to shout her down. She handled herself so beautifully.

Frankly I think she deserves to be Dame Jackie Weaver for services to common sense!

@Roussette

here will be threads on MN about them and I scroll past

The title of this thread says that someone is a hero to feminism, so I was curious and I started to read it.

But then I looked at the video and it all went downhill (for me) from there

We can't all like the same things truly !!

@Roussette

This is one of the weirdest threads I've seen on MN

[quote trulydelicious]@Roussette

here will be threads on MN about them and I scroll past

The title of this thread says that someone is a hero to feminism, so I was curious and I started to read it.

But then I looked at the video and it all went downhill (for me) from there [/quote]
So I decided to come up with some random conspiracy theory that the national mainstream media were trying to interfere in the democracy of a parish council for a town of 6,000 people.

You know, the usual stuff.

I really can't come up with a motive for a 17 year old student in East London wanting to overthrow a parish council in Cheshire. I suppose he could have a scheming granny from Handforth who would stop at nothing to fulfil her ambition of getting a place on the council, but ... it's a stretch.

@Eleganz

So I decided to come up with some random conspiracy theory

No, I'm just trying to make sense of all the lunacy around this video. But I still can't, so I give up

I feel sorry for the men (and other ladies) who have been exposed in this way in MSM though

And I know I'll be flamed for this

@LApprentiSorcier

I really can't come up with a motive for a 17 year old student in East London wanting to overthrow a parish council in Cheshire

No, but you can take a non-issue and spin it at will, drawing all sort of conclusions from it, depending on your agenda, e.g.:

-push feminism
-'old' councillors should be replaced with a more 'diverse' and 'younger' team

etc, etc

This is one of the weirdest threads I've seen on MN

Have you only just joined?!
This is not a weird thread in the sense of MN weird threads at all!

Why on earth do you feel sorry for the men?
Maybe they can become courteous, polite and respectful to other men and women in a meeting. As opposed to rude, shouty and derogatory

LApprentiSorcier Best post of the thread!

[quote trulydelicious]@Roussette

In my time I have seen the most ridiculous tweets/footage go viral for no other reason than they are funny/ridiculous/horrifying/daft (delete as applicable

But this video is absolutely none of these things. So it's difficult to understand how on earth it got to the BBC![/quote]
Uh? It’s all of those things! Have you watched it?

What are their aims

I am going to hazard a guess and say to be able to hold a meeting more than once in six months ?

@trulydelicious you feel sorry for horrible, abusive, rude men who knew their terrible behaviour was being filmed but carried on being arseholes anyway?!

Wow, you really ARE married to one of them, aren’t you?! Gosh, I feel very sorry for you now, although you know you can just leave, right?

[quote trulydelicious]**@Eleganz* and @Arobase*

Thank you for clarifying this for me.

So the Opposition (most likely) instigated the viralisation of a video and then worked with their MSM cronies to spin the story and encourage people to come forward to contribute to topple the government[/quote]
You know perfectly well that that is not what either of us said.

Things become viral for all sorts of reasons. In this case, nothing would have happened when the politics student tweeted it if it hadn't been for the content, for which the councillors in question were fully responsible. If it had been a normal, boring meeting with nothing of interest, opponents could have spun themselves dizzy, it wouldn't have taken off. Once a few people pick up something like this and retweet, it spreads as quickly or in fact more quickly than a disease virus and no spinning is needed.

As for toppling the government. Wow. You don't even know if Tolver and his mates vote Conservative. How on earth would voting out three rather silly parish councillors affect the government one iota?

[quote trulydelicious]@Roussette

What are their aims

Read some of Arobase's posts. She explains it well[/quote]
As you've ignored all the bits of my posts that are inconvenient to your agenda, clearly not.

All I have pointed out is that people should use their democratic right to stand for election in the parish election if they don't want idiots running things. But @trulydelicious somehow seems to think that that reveals something deeply exciting and sinister.

[quote trulydelicious]@Eleganz

You really think that the main stream national media are reporting on this

I absolutely cannot understand how main stream media/ the BBC can be reporting on this non-event/soporific video, no.[/quote]
I hate to think what your life must be like, @trulydelicious, if you really think people behaving like Tolver and Brewerton are the norm and utterly boring, non-eventful and soporific.

[quote trulydelicious]@LApprentiSorcier

I really can't come up with a motive for a 17 year old student in East London wanting to overthrow a parish council in Cheshire

No, but you can take a non-issue and spin it at will, drawing all sort of conclusions from it, depending on your agenda, e.g.:

-push feminism
-'old' councillors should be replaced with a more 'diverse' and 'younger' team

etc, etc[/quote]
But how would that further any political agenda whatsoever? It's a tiny, insignificant parish council. Please explain how you think this would topple the government, I'm fascinated.

@Viviennemary

It's for the electorate to decide who represents them at meetings. Not Jackie Weaver.

Aled dat you?

TrulyDelicious has "given up trying to make sense of this lunacy" . After arguing for pages that a big conspiracy has occurred, with complicity from national media, however many thousands of people who have shared it on Twitter, the thousands more people who have watched it...their target? A parish council in Cheshire. First Handforth, then WORLD DONIMATION my friends!

The vast majority of people disagree with you. That isn't usually indicative of everyone else being involved in lunacy as you put it.

I actually laughed until I cried at the full video. It was one of the funniest things I have seen in my life. Like the Office in its hay day but funnier. I just wish it was a real sitcom.

One of the reasons it's gone viral is precisely because this is the kind of unknown, low-key, parochial crap that usually gets no audience because it's boring and nobody gives a shit. The idea that something as dull as a parish council meeting in Nowheresville could spark such furious emotions and lead to such pomposity and rage, complete with virtual evictions, is a huge part of the appeal.

Honestly, this is the very definition of a non-conspiracy.

Just popping this blog piece by Debbie Cameron here https://debuk.wordpress.com/2021/02/06/you-have-no-authority-here/amp/?twitterrimpression=true. She's a linguistics professor at Oxford Uni, and I think was involved in Spare Rib back in the day. She always has interesting things to say about language use and the sexes.

Thanks maud for that link. Interesting. Spare rib. That took me back. Avid reader during 80s.

A Hero for Parish Clerks maybe - but feminism? nah, not so much.

Interesting read @MaudTheInvincible.
I think that is what is so delicious about the video, she outmanned them in every sense of the word ! I think they believed they had the upper hand and could prevent the meeting from happening just by sheer force of deluded character, forgetting that in the world of modern technology, the host holds all the cards

A Hero for Parish Clerks maybe - but feminism? nah, not so much.

@TheHateIsNotGood why not for feminism ?

frumpety because plenty of Parish Clerks are men and plenty of bullying Councillors are women (though more sly than shouty).

Most people don't even know what Parish Clerks are and what they do and the circumstances/T&Cs that many Parish Clerks work within - many do so as a vocation and/or service for their local community. Maintaining neutrality and keeping the Council within the Rules, Laws is paramount.

So, for at least raising the profile of Parish Clerks, Jackie Weaver is brilliant. Context is everything, and her comment that "you can call me Britney Spears" was a winner for me.