Who does this gift belong to?

[BabyofMine]

A group of work friends buy a gift for another work friend.

One work friend (not me so as not to drip feed!) organises it, collects the money, orders the item and is going to deliver it to the work friend.

Because of some mess up with the company, the company send the organiser a nearly duplicate item worth basically the same, as an apology for messing them around so much etc.

Whose is second duplicate gift from the company?

YABU= belongs to the organiser
YANBU= belongs to the person the original gift was meant for

(The YABU/NBU choices were random btw - I genuinely don’t have an opinion either way, I am one of the “contributors”)

@Dannydevitoiloveyourart

Belongs to the organiser - it was clearly an apology for the hassle of organising so can’t see how it would belong to anyone else since no one else organised the gift.

Also it wouldn’t make sense any other way as:

1.there’s no point giving the recipient a duplicate gift, and

1. the other contributors didn’t pay for the value of the duplicate apology gift nor did they contribute in other ways (organising) so have no entitlement to it.

100% agree

I agree it should go to the organiser. It's compensation for the trouble with the order. The organiser is the only one who was inconvenienced and had trouble with the order.

"Because of some mess up with the company, the company send the organiser a nearly duplicate item worth basically the same, as an apology for messing them around so much etc."

"... yes it was a lot more hassle for the organiser, having to chase things up, write loads of emails, normally I’d say they had to stay in twice when it was supposed to be delivered and wasn’t but I guess they would have been in at the moment anyway - still an annoyance/stress for them though."

The item was sent in recompense for them "having to chase things up, write loads of emails". The person who did all that was the organiser. The recompense is to them and them only.

Those who begrudge this can go swivel. And step up to organise in future.

@MrsKoala

I don’t understand this. They are 2 completely separate transactions. 1 the group of you brought something for someone. 2 the organiser of the group had hassle with a company and the company have compensated her for her troubles. It is irrelevant what she was buying, with whose money and for whom. She was messed about by a company and they have done the decent thing and recognised this. I can’t see how anyone thinks this compensation should be for them. Unless they are saying they were inconvenienced too - which they weren’t.

Perfectly put!

@MrsKoala has it spot on. The second item is a compensation gift given to the organiser. Its an arrangement based on her contracting to buy something (with some collective money) and a company failing to provide her with their best standard of service. They must have messed her about a fair bit to give a second item for free.

I can just imagine some cheeky "contributor" sitting back saying well that's not fair, after they had none of the hassle! People like those are the reason we struggle to get volunteers to organise collections :(

*bought of course, not brought.

Definitely the organiser gets it.

I have a cr story about this though. Colleague (PA) books train tickets for boss on company card. Colleague gets messed about a bit (not a huge amount) gets £250 in compensation from the train company (a cheque to her direct). Keeps it!

I meant cf story

My initial reaction was that the duplicate gift belongs to the group, as everyone paid for it. It doesn’t belong to the gift recipient as they had received the gift, as ordered. However, as gift can’t be split, either organiser keeps it, or they draw lots for it.

My initial reaction was that the duplicate gift belongs to the group, as everyone paid for it.

There is no duplicate gift though, it was sent as compensation for the organiser having been messed about.

The only alternative option would be if the gift was so late that the recipient had to wait for it in some way as well,(ie it arrived after the event it was supposed to be given at).

Otherwise it belongs to the organizer and they can do with it as they wish.

The organiser -a perk for extra hassle in something that is usually a thankless task.

IME people who complain about this kind of thing are always the last to put themselves forward for these jobs.

I don’t understand this. They are 2 completely separate transactions. 1 the group of you brought something for someone. 2 the organiser of the group had hassle with a company and the company have compensated her for her troubles. It is irrelevant what she was buying, with whose money and for whom. She was messed about by a company and they have done the decent thing and recognised this. I can’t see how anyone thinks this compensation should be for them. Unless they are saying they were inconvenienced too - which they weren’t. 
Perfectly put!

I agree with this completely.

Bet the moaners put in the least cash too.
Just sayin

Team Organiser

Do a King Solomon and say you’ll cut it in equal portions. Then you can see who truly deserves the item...or something

Bet the organiser wishes she hadn’t said a word.

The organiser should obviously get it.

I can’t believe you’re even having the discussion tbh.

The item is ‘compensation’ for being messed around, so belongs to whomever was the messed around party.

Very clearly the organiser.

^This.

@DeepfriedPizza

That's completely different. It is the job of the PA to organise train tickets. She was paid for the time it took her to do that. It was done whilst at work as part of her working day.

If the train company made an error and she sorted it out, she still got paid for that time and it was still company time spent sorting it out. It wasnt her own personal time. She is compensated for her time in the form of a salary.

The apology from the train company was apologising for the extra time to organise, and that time was company time. The compensation should have been to the employer, and it would be their decision to give their employee a gift.

It is the organiser they are the one messed around. The other people paid money for a Gift and that was given. Tbh not sure why the organiser would bother to mention it to anyone else.

@MrsKoala

Do a King Solomon and say you’ll cut it in equal portions. Then you can see who truly deserves the item...or something

@Wenolikeexplodeythings

I know it's completely different. That's why I said she was being a CF

I would say the organiser keeps it. If they have had the faff of arranging it all then they should have it.

At the end of the day the original recipient still gets their gift which everyone has paid towards. The extra gift is just a bonus so no one is losing or missing out on something they didn't expect or pay for.

Guessing the organiser dealt with being messed around and they put the most effort in so it’s theirs.

"Here's a gift for messing you around"
That belongs to the person being messed around. No one else.

Insisting Mandy who put a tenner in then had nothing else to do with it ihas it s illogical.
Selling it and splitting the money - well it's all gonna fall on the organiser isn't it again so why should she be hassled with it all again? And it's a bit tight. Oh great, I'm so glad I got back half the money o gave to Sandra's leaving present,
Insisting the organiser donates it because if you can't have it no one can is just petty and childish

So organiser keeps it