Page 17 | The Bin man who was sacked for kicking the head off the Snowman.....

TheQueef · 2021-01-31T13:27:44+00:00

Would you have reported? I'm not a fan of reporting for reporting sake so this has shocked me. Just what outcome was expected by sending footage to his bosses? YABU = he deserves to lose his job. YANBU = it's batshit he kicked a snowman. Soz if there has been a thread already.

SoVeryLost · 01/02/2021 11:41

@DuaneAgain

I had a woman flip me off the other day after I pipped the horn due to her cutting me up - she almost missed her turning and changed lane erratically. I saw which company she turned into and was fairly sure it was a fleet car. At no point did I consider reporting her and trying to get her sacked.

I have reported drivers in work vehicles especially if their driving was dangerous. Like the delivery van that drove through a zebra crossing while my DS and I were on it (we were already half way across and had to stop on the zebra crossing so missed us by inches). Why wouldn't you? Their work deserves to know and give the person an opportunity to drive better before they kill a child on a zebra crossing. My intention wasn't to get the driver sacked but it was to ensure that they were driving safely in future.

The fact this chap was asked to not return (he wasn't sacked) is not the fault of the person complaining. If you are so new to a job or don't have a secure job why wouldn't you be on your best behaviour. Actions have consequences and it's worth children learning this prior to turning 19.

Porcupineintherough · 01/02/2021 11:50

Not sure I'm seeing the problem here. I'm sure there are plenty of nicer people who would be willing and able to do his job without bringing the company into disrepute, why shouldnt they have it.

SaltyTootsieToes · 01/02/2021 12:48

When I first heard about this (not having read the story or seen the video), I thought it was over the top for him to lose his job

However, after reading the story and watching the video, also understanding he is not employed by the council but rather via an agency, I think it’s the right thing to do

The guy already had history of violent temper with the bar incident and attacking police officer. He didn’t learn to control himself from that incident.

Then in the video, he didn’t just hit the snowman once but repeatedly to destroy it and know this child looks out the window, waves to the bin men plus he refused to apologise.

In this instance, council is right to ask agency not to send him back

The guy shows unprovoked violent tendency. If the council didn’t do this and the guy decided then to kick the s- - - t out of someone’s car, garden, pet or whatever, then the council is negligent.

This guy needs help and really to have public know the rest of the story here.

Herja · 01/02/2021 12:59

I've never had a job where you could get away with kicking off at a manager asking you to appologise, while giving a warning. Especially a warning for something bringing the company into disrepute, in uniform, on company time.

Him ending up with no further work is unsurprising and a non story really. It could have been anything, the snowman is not the reason he's not working for that agency now (even if it is the reason the council declined to have him back).

DuaneAgain · 01/02/2021 13:05

I have reported drivers in work vehicles especially if their driving was dangerous. Like the delivery van that drove through a zebra crossing while my DS and I were on it (we were already half way across and had to stop on the zebra crossing so missed us by inches). Why wouldn't you? Their work deserves to know and give the person an opportunity to drive better before they kill a child on a zebra crossing. My intention wasn't to get the driver sacked but it was to ensure that they were driving safely in future.

The fact this chap was asked to not return (he wasn't sacked) is not the fault of the person complaining. If you are so new to a job or don't have a secure job why wouldn't you be on your best behaviour. Actions have consequences and it's worth children learning this prior to turning 19.

I think it depends. In your example, the guy could've killed you and certainly there are many van drivers who race around irresponsibly (often young guys).

But I've been a HGV driver and when you spend 10-12 hours on the road every single day in busy city traffic, you will inevitably make the occasional mistake, especially as a new driver. Maybe just misjudging a manoeuvre and pulling in a little close to the vehicle behind (it's much harder judging the distance when the vehicle is 40 ft behind you and it's dark).

When I was in an office job I usually had the luxury of being able to correct my mistakes but with some jobs it's a different kettle of fish. Truly dangerous drivers are different, but I have to say that the general public often don't give much space or consideration to truck drivers but are very quick to report them should they misjudge a manoeuvre and accidentally cut them up, which is going to happen at some point to every driver.