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Friend went snooping

375 replies

Sunnyshades5 · 30/01/2021 02:04

I'm really close to a man who's changed his whole life around in the last year! He went through years of struggle that led to bad choices and he ended up in hospital. I won't go into huge details.

He's months and months sober.
Earning good money and working 5-6 solid days a week.
He's rescued a dog as part of his recovery. The dog gives him something positive and keeps him company.
He's skilled in what he does and is always getting offers for work. He's popular and seems to be supported alot. He also reaches out to anyone struggling and offers to tell them how he did it. He often gets contacted because he really has turned around.

We didn't plan to become close. But we met through a friend and developed an instant friendship. We are several months into a really close friendship. It's cups of tea and conversations. I can call him anytime. He can call me. We catch up everyday and once life resumes more we will probably go out and about places. Overall he's just lovely and I think the world of him. We help eachother with anything the other can't do.

I know his story. He's told me all the details. Why it happened. What happened. How it ended. He also told me part of his recovery is to be honest about his past. He told me he was terrified of meeting new people and opening up. But he felt safe talking to me and I know it was a massive thing telling me.

My best friend was curious about him as we've been close a while now. So I told her all his good points. Told her he's had some struggles and kept his story private mostly.

She went digging. I think her heart was in the right place. But her husband works in the same Industry and she sent him to work to dig out info. She then text me to ask if I was free for a walk.

I went to meet her. She asked to see his photo. Then she told me her husband had found out he's a p**s head. He's done this and that. She told me everything he had openly told me. I thanked her for caring. Told her he's not hiding anything. He's told me in detail everything she just said. I then said all I can say is he's like this now. He's turned his life around. He didn't want to be that person. He didn't enjoy being that person. He's trying to lead a normal life now and whilst I can't say he never will relapse he's currently living a normal life.

I'm just upset with it. People love gossip. People find it so easy to judge. To Tear someone to pieces. I fully expected one day my friend would meet him. But now she's made me feel like she's written him off. I just feel she had no right to snoop. Go fishing for information. Go discussing me with men who do not know me. What if it gets back to my friend. How is he supposed to feel?

How would you feel? I do understand people would have seen him when he was poorly and that will be their view on him. But I still feel my friend had no right.

OP posts:
RonaldMcDonald · 30/01/2021 13:34

@Sunnyshades5 my friend now lives with an alcoholic and I was really frightened for her.
He told me his story, without filter, and it was dreadful
I am still frightened for her - but she loves him and they are happy at the moment - which is probably all any of us can hope for

sammylady37 · 30/01/2021 13:36

@sueelleker

She had no right to pry into his private business. It's OK to tell you things she already knew, but to get her husband to look things up is way beyond the pale. Can you report him to his business for using his work to look into someone's private affairs? (I hope he's not in medicine, as this could lose him his job-HIPAA and all that)
Major assumptions here. You don’t know he used his work position to look someone up. It sounds more like his colleagues know this guy and he asked them about him.
axile234 · 30/01/2021 13:47

@AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter

Bluntness100 .Get off your soap box . And stop taking in all the gossip . she clearly states she knows all about him and he's trying to turn his life around . It's all about facts and you have none first hand BUTT OUT

Butt out? LOL - the OP ASKED for opinions on a public message board.
If OP had wanted people to "butt out" as you say, she wouldnt have posted it publicly and invited people to volunteer their opinions.

Yes that's right OP WANT'S opinions . But I don't . On what I've put .
axile234 · 30/01/2021 13:54

[quote RonaldMcDonald]@Sunnyshades5 my friend now lives with an alcoholic and I was really frightened for her.
He told me his story, without filter, and it was dreadful
I am still frightened for her - but she loves him and they are happy at the moment - which is probably all any of us can hope for[/quote]
Well your friends in for the ride of a life time . If she can cope with it .

Xerochrysum · 30/01/2021 13:56

axile234, you are the one attacking other posters on their opinions. Unless you are OP, I don't understand you are lashing out on anyone who has different opinions from you.

Xerochrysum · 30/01/2021 13:56
  • I don't understand why
sammylady37 · 30/01/2021 13:58

Yes that's right OP WANT'S opinions . But I don't . On what I've put

Hilarious.
I think you misunderstand the purpose of a discussion forum.

If you want to be able to spout stuff online and not get into a discussion about it, or not have people give their opinions on what you’ve posted, I suggest you get a blog instead of posting on a discussion forum. Just be sure to disable comments on your blog.

Bluntness100 · 30/01/2021 14:04

Yes that's right OP WANT'S opinions . But I don't . On what I've put

I’m sorry what? You want people to not respond to your posts? And you’re angry and upset they are? So are attacking people for it?

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 30/01/2021 14:18

Yes that's right OP WANT'S opinions . But I don't . On what I've put

But.... you're posting an opinion on a public forum where literally anyone can comment on it.......

Sounds like you really dont understand the point of public internet forums!

Butchyrestingface · 30/01/2021 14:24

I know it's totally bad form and await a well-deserved roasting. But I couldn't resist ASing someone's username.

They give excellent quote.

axile234 · 30/01/2021 14:38

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Bluntness100 · 30/01/2021 14:40

Axile, are you thr op name changed? I can’t think of another reason for your posts.

Butchyrestingface · 30/01/2021 14:41

@Bluntness100

Axile, are you thr op name changed? I can’t think of another reason for your posts.
I don't think she's the OP.
gnomeclan · 30/01/2021 14:43

"But her husband works in the same Industry and she sent him to work to dig out info."

Who to trust?
Friend and her husband did not behave very honestly themselves. This sounds like breach of confidentiality.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 30/01/2021 14:43

@axile234

If you want to post whatever you like online without a single person commenting on it then I agree with above- start a blog and disable all comments.

Public forums are clearly not for you.

MaelyssQ · 30/01/2021 14:48

A close friend of mine had an affair with a man she worked with and left her husband for him. Shortly after they had set up home together, she discovered he was an active alcoholic. How he had managed to hide this beforehand, I have no idea. She lost shared custody of her 2yo son who has lived with his dad ever since.

Friend's partner gets sober for months and months and then relapses. He's never made it to a year. He's lost so many jobs because of his drinking. He's been to various rehabs funded by his parents. He has no contact with his ex-wife and 3 daughters.

But my friend has a saviour complex and can't and won't leave him now. She has given up so much for this man but firmly believes that one day his sobriety will stick. In the meantime she's left with a partner who soils the bed, gets arrested frequently, suffers injuries from falls and fight, is enable to hold down a job,s and she is constantly on high alert for the next disaster. It's no way to live.

alltoomuchrightnow · 30/01/2021 14:51

I SO wish I'd had a friend do this before I took up with the sober alcoholic who was 'dry' but as it turned out, only for a few yrs... then ruined my life..8 yrs on still not recovered..he's dead and I"m a mess..

BonnieDundee · 30/01/2021 14:52

@MaelyssQ that is very sad Sad

sammylady37 · 30/01/2021 14:54

@gnomeclan

"But her husband works in the same Industry and she sent him to work to dig out info."

Who to trust?
Friend and her husband did not behave very honestly themselves. This sounds like breach of confidentiality.

What’s dishonest about asking colleagues if they know someone? And from the info provided by the op, there’s no reason to suspect he did anything else.
alltoomuchrightnow · 30/01/2021 14:55

As Nerr says, chances of relapse are great.. my ex fiance was the MOST reformed character, the miracle, for about 5 yrs. And then... :(
Living with the chaos of alcoholism is something I could never go through again. It affects everyone and everything.
Most 'recovered' alcoholics do not stay recovered. That is a fact. Look at statistics. I went to Al Anon for a long time as it supported me after leaving his drunk violent arse.
Run and keep running, OP...

youvegottenminuteslynn · 30/01/2021 14:57

@axile234

Well your friends in for the ride of a life time . If she can cope with it .

What did this even mean? It was in response to a poster concerned her friend is living with a recovering alcoholic. What ride of her life? I don't get it.

Ileflottante · 30/01/2021 14:59

Axile’s plot has gone awry it would seem.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 30/01/2021 15:10

You know nothing about me or what I've had to put up with so shut the F up

Yes, you definitely sound like someone that should be giving advice to people putting themselves in a potentially dangerous situation.

Carysmatthews · 30/01/2021 15:44

@ParadiseIsland

Wow....

Very clearly many of you have very strong opinions on recovered alcoholics and they are not positive at all.
Plenty of assumptions around wo knowing either the man or the OP.
You must all be living such perfect live.

No wonder said man is wary of ever talking about his past!

Most likely these strong opinions are based on professional or personal experience of recovering addicts.

Every single post relating to anything on mumsnet is based on assumptions, born out of what the original poster chooses to divulge.

I wouldn’t class a few sober months as recovered. I don’t think it’s that people have perfect lives, they can just spot a gullible person and a risk to said person.

MakeWorkYourNewFavourite · 30/01/2021 15:56

Wait. Just wait. If he's the same guy this time next year, go for it.