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Theresa Bloody May!

322 replies

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 11:06

Why on earth doesn't she just shut up and fade from view? She is the very worst PM we have ever had, what in the world makes her think anyone cares what she thinks Confused

I am stunned by her arrogance, she was the laughing stock of the whole world for years, and yet she feels qualified to still pass comment?

Please can someone tell her WE DONT CARE what you think, you had your chance and you stuffed it up with your robotic soundbites and your lack of backbone, now please depart with dignity.

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Defaultname · 20/01/2021 13:37

I find it quite arrogant when May, and others, speak of Britain's "global moral leadership". I've noticed that it's generally Leftist nowadays, who are keen on this idea, though they also seem to reckon that White Western devils especially the most-racist-in-the-world English.
(such as themselves) who can have nothing to teach the rest of the world, but also claim we have a manifest destiny to tell foreigners to pull their socks up.
Of course, it depends on what your values are; May is keen that we spend a large part of our budget on arms, including nuclear weapons.
I take it that there are large numbers of countries that she believes should never have nuclear weapons. That's that old 'exceptionalism', I suppose.

Hopefully, she's also a keen critic of the various despotic states around the globe, including China.

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:37

spark more silently? Surely you don't really mean that. At least we have stopped squabbling about garden centres and school places. Grin

I have been silent too long. I have sat on thread after thread wondering why I haven't been my supportive of lovely Boris. So now I am my true self and just getting started

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Peregrina · 20/01/2021 13:38

I would love a female Johnson to come into power personally, someone with a bit of zest and personality.

A scruffily dressed woman PM who had had at least six children by three different men, and probably more would be absolutely crucified in the press. The kindest comment would be that she was a slag.

Icantreachthepretzels · 20/01/2021 13:38

The thing with first past the post is it is possible to win a landslide victory even when less then half the electorate vote for you... as is what happened with Boris. More people voted against him than for him.

Anyone who doesn't understand that and thinks a landslide victory means he actually won most of the votes probably shouldn't be voting.

I'm always so disappointed when a troll who sounded normal to start with goes off the rails and just starts shitposting goady nonsense that someone on their very first day on the internet could tell was a troll. If you're going to troll - please be clever and nuanced about it or else what's the fucking point? You can't troll people who know you're trolling - they just dismiss you as a troll.

Jesus Christ FPTP 101 and Trolling 101 having to be explained in the same post. Do better OP. Or don't bother at all.

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:40

Yes quite default I wonder what is going to happen now with China, given they have camps of thousands if not millions of people being used for slave labour, having their organs harvested and being tortured and sterilised.
Incredibly the EU thought now was a good time to sign a deal with China. It beggars belief.

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Kendodd · 20/01/2021 13:42

Yes can you imagine the Daily Mail if a female PM had left children all over the place! And had spent time writing articles slagging off single mothers.

VinylDetective · 20/01/2021 13:42

@HettieMills

Oh I don't know, I think Blair is up there with one of the worst prime ministers we have had. Really the mess we find ourselves in now starts with him and his actions as pm.
Would you care to elaborate on that? Because it makes no sense at all to me.
DoubleTweenQueen · 20/01/2021 13:44

@Icanseegreenshoots What is your position that you are able to pass judgement on an ex-PM so confidently, and demand her silence? Bit odd to take such offence?

Kendodd · 20/01/2021 13:44

Anyone who doesn't understand that and thinks a landslide victory means he actually won most of the votes probably shouldn't be voting.
In fairness the OP sounds unhinged, I wouldn't expect her/him to grasp that.

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:45

Apart from taking us into war in Iraq that killed tens of thousands of innocent people, and signing us up to EU expansion that created much of the disquiet in the first place - yes I can see why many would choose Blair as the worst PM in history.

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DoubleTweenQueen · 20/01/2021 13:45

Think ConUKIPservative Central Office are trolling again

Daphnise · 20/01/2021 13:45

May was below average- the worst were Thatcher and Blair.

Cameron was just a non-event- a hobby PM.

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:47

Theresa May is constantly undermining the government because she is bitter and angry. I don't think she should be given a platform to air her grievances when she lied and pretended to support brexit when the opposite turned out to be true! She was a fake, and a bad one at that.

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VinylDetective · 20/01/2021 13:48

@Icanseegreenshoots

Apart from taking us into war in Iraq that killed tens of thousands of innocent people, and signing us up to EU expansion that created much of the disquiet in the first place - yes I can see why many would choose Blair as the worst PM in history.
The Eurosceptics or - as John Major called them - the bastards, predated Blair by decades. They go back to Heath’s day. Learn some accurate history.
user1497207191 · 20/01/2021 13:48

@Daphnise

May was below average- the worst were Thatcher and Blair.

Cameron was just a non-event- a hobby PM.

So, just who was "above average" then in the last 30 years if you discount Blair, May, and Thatcher. Who else have we actually had?

It comes down to Major and Brown. I'd say both of those were poor too, so can't think of anyone "above average". In fact I can't think of a single competent PM in the last 30 years.

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:50

You are going to be horrified to know I am actually a swing voter.

I voted for Labour three times so far.

As far away from a Tory voter as you are likely to get tbh.

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RedKite96 · 20/01/2021 13:50

At least she managed not to kill 80,000 people

Peregrina · 20/01/2021 13:50

Incredibly the EU thought now was a good time to sign a deal with China. It beggars belief.

Let's see the UK take a principled stand on the matter before you start celebrating the EU's faults. What's the betting that we will rush to do likewise and will continue to turn a blind eye to what is happening to the Uighars?

DoubleTweenQueen · 20/01/2021 13:51

To be fair, this Gvmnt isn't very Conservative,..............

user1497207191 · 20/01/2021 13:52

@HettieMills

Oh I don't know, I think Blair is up there with one of the worst prime ministers we have had. Really the mess we find ourselves in now starts with him and his actions as pm.
And a lot of the financial/economic problems can be traced back to his side-kick Brown as his Chancellor. Selling off gold at rock bottom prices, knackering pension schemes with tax raids, sweetheart tax deals with multinational companies, initial tax credit foul ups, encouraging window cleaners and dog walkers to become limited companies, the beginnings of the "gig" economy, increasing NIC rather than reforming it, signing off ruinous NHS PFI deals, "no more boom and bust", running up debt in the good years, etc etc.
Serin · 20/01/2021 13:53

Even taking into account her massive talent for being patronising and addressing everyone as if they are 5 years old, ("no magic money tree" and "let me be very clear about this") she is still nowhere near as bad as Cameron (with his fake austerity) and BIair (throwing troops under a bus with his fake war).
I wish we had Jacinda Ardern as a leader.

user1497207191 · 20/01/2021 13:53

@RedKite96

At least she managed not to kill 80,000 people
Oh I didn't realise we had covid when she was PM!
Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:53

That is not correct vinyl as I suspect you know.
Blair signed up to the EU’s social chapter in 1997 and the Charter of Fundamental Rights in 2000.

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MaskingForIt · 20/01/2021 13:54

@Icanseegreenshoots

He won a LANDSLIDE people, can you explain that? Thought not.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

He won 43.6% of the vote. Of the people who voted, more didn’t vote for him than did vote for him. It is only due to our archaic FTPT system that meant he got a 70-seat majority in parliament.

And people criticise the electoral college in the USA.

VinylDetective · 20/01/2021 13:56

@user1497207191, the UK was in pretty good financial shape until we bailed out the bankers in 2008. The global financial crash wasn’t any British politician’s fault.