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Theresa Bloody May!

322 replies

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 11:06

Why on earth doesn't she just shut up and fade from view? She is the very worst PM we have ever had, what in the world makes her think anyone cares what she thinks Confused

I am stunned by her arrogance, she was the laughing stock of the whole world for years, and yet she feels qualified to still pass comment?

Please can someone tell her WE DONT CARE what you think, you had your chance and you stuffed it up with your robotic soundbites and your lack of backbone, now please depart with dignity.

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Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:20

I think he is quite self effacing yes, he definitely is not the bombastic person you make out, he is actually very nice.

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VinylDetective · 20/01/2021 13:20

I should have noted OP’s username before I read this thread. Well known bollocks spouter.

Sparklfairy · 20/01/2021 13:21

@Icanseegreenshoots

He won a LANDSLIDE people, can you explain that? Thought not.
A big part of that is that a lot of people couldn't bear the thought of Corbyn... BJ was the lesser of two evils.
user1497207191 · 20/01/2021 13:21

@Icanseegreenshoots

He won a LANDSLIDE people, can you explain that? Thought not.
Easy to explain because the opposition put up a hopeless opponent against him. Had Labour kicked Corbyn and his followers out, they'd have had a far greater chance of winning or at least cutting BoJo's majority. They didn't, and so we have Boris for 5 years. Well done Labour!
StatisticallyChallenged · 20/01/2021 13:22

There's a very big distance between Worst Ever and Saint...

Theresa May tried damn hard to deliver what was democratically voted for but was screwed at every turn by her own party. And her posture is fairy indicative of spinal issues...

Boris Johnson won because he was standing against Corbyn who could not carry any of the middle ground, not because he himself was an excellent candidate.

DGRossetti · 20/01/2021 13:22

I find it strange that she often commands this level of vitriol.

Lying and the hostile environment not doing it for you ?

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:23

Under Boris' leadership we remain one of the front runners in the entire world when it comes to purchasing and delivering vaccines.

So I don't think you are being balanced. He has done an outstanding job trying out the lateral (moonshot) vaccines too, and quite frankly it was not Boris' fault people in this country like to break rules, and are immature when it comes to christmas. We were always going to have this wave, thanks mainly to entitlement more than anything else.

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NewspaperTaxis · 20/01/2021 13:24

May having no charisma was important bearing. in mind how much of that was needed to 'sell' the Brexit deal.
That's why she went to the country - to capitalise on Labour's low poll rating to achieve a handsome majority so she could whip her Brexit deal through. It achieved the opposite - Labour managed to do a Trump-like use of social media to ensure tactical voting, plus I personally think many were shocked by her cynicism and feared a Labour wipeout, so voted for Labour, thinking, right, they'll still lose but they won't be annihilated and then Corbyn will quietly stand down having made his point. Sadly, Corbyn and his mates took it as a sign of his popularity and that with one next push, he'd be in. He hung on and next time round, bang, Boris got May's anticipated majority, getting the second bite of the cherry, and Labour is now annihilated for a generation.

You could argue that if only we'd had Boris then and May now, things might be better.

But much of the Covid deaths are not strictly any one person's fault. That's the genius of it, you see. Care home dodgy deaths have been going on on the sly for years now. Nobody is held to account because this Govt has made sure that the regulators - the CQC and NMC - turn a blind eye to abuse and in fact carry out surveillance on Complainants. None threw their toys out of the pram about NHS chief executives seeding Covid in care homes. They're all on side.

With so many involved and complicit, it's not so they can better protect the elderly with checks and balances, far from it. It's so they can all cover up for each other and the blame can be thinned and spread so evenly, no one person can be held to account - a bit like Michael Barrymore's pool party.

The deaths would have been the same under May, one feels. Admittedly, with an 80 seat majority, Johnson can be a bit more blatant and take the brakes off the cronyism.

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:25

So Corbyn would have been worse....really?
Well that is something I suppose.

And in a few years Boris will win again. Mark my words. Because despite the hate directed at him on here, many people in RL really quite like him.

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Helmetbymidnight · 20/01/2021 13:25

He won a LANDSLIDE people, can you explain that? Thought not.

Election based on more lies - 'oven-ready Brexit' sounded good to a country weary of the subject. There was no oven ready deal and he failed to mention how his deal would screw businesses, screw the service industry, screw the fishing industry, screw ex-pats, screw musicians etc.

There are people out there who genuinely believed Boris that there would be millions for the NHS post-Brexit!

Gotta love a liar though.

UntamedWisteria · 20/01/2021 13:28

We were always going to have this wave, thanks mainly to entitlement more than anything else.

I'll say it again OP, because you haven't answered. The UK has the worst death rate in the whole world from Covid. And you think that's because we are 'entitled' and not a failure of government policy?

VinylDetective · 20/01/2021 13:28

The deaths would have been the same under May, one feels

I don’t think they would. She’s so cautious by nature. I reckon the first lockdown would have been sooner, the borders would have been closed and she certainly wouldn’t have allowed thousands of patients to be discharged to care homes untested.

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:28

Well as it turned out it WAS an oven ready deal!!

That is the whole point. He pulled it off, when it actually counted, he delivered, and millions will not forget that. In many people's eyes many of whom had lost all hope, Boris delivered when it counted.

We are not able to thank him, I wish I could, but millions silently thank Boris for everything he has done for all of us.

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TheRogueApostrophe · 20/01/2021 13:29

I think history will be far kinder to her than we are being currently. She has behaved with dignity, and is entitled to voice her thoughts. I believe she is a decent person, and is trustworthy, which is quite an accolade in politics. And she was truly stitched up by her party and an opposition that preferred to destroy rather than build a credible case for their own side.

I agree with this. She was not the worst PM but she was used as a scapegoat. She picked up the reins at the worst possible time and did, I think, a decent job. Id much rather have her than BJ right now. Women in high positions are criticised far more harshly than men. Imagine a woman behaving in the same way Johnson has?

VinylDetective · 20/01/2021 13:30

OP, you are Cendrillonsings and I claim my £20.

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:30

The UK has the highest death rate, this week, in the world. Next week it will be someone else, you don't seem to understand how waves work.

Anyone with a grain of intelligence knew this would happen after christmas.

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Helmetbymidnight · 20/01/2021 13:31

It wasn't an oven-ready deal. It was a last minute cobbled together disaster which over the next months and years screws and weakens our country.

People realise they were lied to and they won't forget that.

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:31

I would love a female Johnson to come into power personally, someone with a bit of zest and personality.

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2021hastobebetter · 20/01/2021 13:31

@NiceViper

Can someone duplicate this for Blair please?
Yes or maybe TM gets special treatment as she is Tory/Female? -I often see Corbyn in the press too!
Sparklfairy · 20/01/2021 13:32

but millions silently thank Boris for everything he has done for all of us.

Any chance you could thank him more silently? Grin

Peregrina · 20/01/2021 13:32

and quite frankly it was not Boris' fault people in this country like to break rules, and are immature when it comes to christmas.

But it's entirely his fault that he backed Cummings to the hilt and got the nodding dogs in his Government to do so, which made people think that they'd been taken for mugs for taking the rules seriously, when they clearly weren't important.

Helmetbymidnight · 20/01/2021 13:33

ooh yeah a female PM who presides over a 100,000 deaths due to her dithering, incompetence and cronyism.

She'd be a national treasure. Grin

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 13:34

Yeah, yeah yeah remain fatalism again. We have heard it all before.

Just love to find anything they can to moan about, nothing new there. I would find it more interesting if you could just find it within yourself to say yes you do still have broccoli in your fridge, the supermarkets are packed with fresh food, Kent is not a car park and it certainly was not the disaster I predicted in any shape or form.

But no....

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TheRogueApostrophe · 20/01/2021 13:34

it was not Boris' fault people in this country like to break rules

I absolutely hold Johnson accountable after he allowed Cummings to do as he pleased without repercussions. Joe Public needed to see Johnson condemn the behaviour and he failed. I believe that was a turning point for many in terms of levels of compliance.

HettieMills · 20/01/2021 13:36

Oh I don't know, I think Blair is up there with one of the worst prime ministers we have had. Really the mess we find ourselves in now starts with him and his actions as pm.