To have zero sympathy for the fishing industry?

[AgeLikeWine]

The U.K. fishing industry voted overwhelmingly for Brexit ; 92% voted Leave according to a poll from June 2016 (source : The Guardian).

Now they are bleating about the massive logistical and administrative problems and delays that they are encountering in trying to export their catch into EU markets. Today, fish transportation companies have been driving their lorries around central London to protest about the situation.

But this is what they voted for : to ‘take back control of our waters’. They voted Leave in the full knowledge that most of the U.K. catch was exported to Europe, and that that would obviously be more difficult after Brexit, so they should suck it up & stop whinging.

I feel sorry for the fisherman who voted Remain. The others only have themselves to blame, wankers.

2016 : Advisory vote based on lies

2017 : general election with borderline result

2019 : Get Brexit done election landslide

They won. Get over it.

nicky
Aw. Diddums.
The audacity of fisherman to think that anyone owes them a living, especially after voting en masse to leave their biggest trading area...imagine any other business sector spouting this shit!!
oh - farming

@Narniacalling Most fisherman wanted was to take control of our fishing limits ie at a bare minimum to keep foreign vessels out of the 12 mile limit. Our waters are seriously over fished by European vessels (more than uk ones) the Foreign Vessels also tow away the UK nets and pots. Holland have factory ships that literally take everything in it's path (100s of tons a trip) but register them to the UK so they can shop inside the 12 mile limit. As for.the exports this has been done purposely by the EU as retaliation for leaving but lorries coming into the UK are fine. One more thing the UK fisherman have had issues with only being given a very small quota for fishing which has made many hundreds of them decommissioned their vessels are it hasn't been viable to fish under EU regulations.

@nicky7654 Wishing your husband well. It's so easy when you go shopping and see all the fresh fish nicely laid out on ice, to forget the hardships people have been through to bring it there - working conditions in which most of us wouldn't last five minutes.

What about the fisherman that happily sold their quotas back in the 90s??
Got a pretty penny I believe

[quote nicky7654]@DimidDavilby Thank you x My husband will appreciate your comment as he has been fishing for 35 years and feels totally let down. It's a very difficult job and dangerous, out in freezing conditions to end up being totally disrespected by the Government and the EU. Fisherman deserve appreciation. And let's also include the Fishing communities who are also becoming homeless !!![/quote]
Did your husband vote for Brexit? What was his viewpoint and what has changed since then? It’s a genuine question becuase I really wish to hear his opinion. Another poster upthread mentioned that their local fishing industry in Scotland is struggling and listed the reasons why it is not just the fishermen who will be affected.

This fishing life on the bbc is interesting and worth a watch
On bb2 now

But you won!
Rejoice!

@Shrillharridan

nicky Aw. Diddums. The audacity of fisherman to think that anyone owes them a living, especially after voting en masse to leave their biggest trading area...imagine any other business sector spouting this shit!! oh - farming

So you want whole communities and children to be plunged into poverty because they voted for brexit????!!!!

I didn't want brexit either but no way do I want to see the towns and communities around me to suffer.
Hasn't the last year been tough enough on people then to wish other people suffering and difficulties?
Have some humanity and decency.

Sorry but it serves them right. Filthy business anyway so they get what’s coming to them. Same for cattle, sheep and chicken farmers hopefully. The world is better without these hideous industries. Be gone already. Let’s hope they all end and we can look forward to a better, cleaner, more humane and vegetarian future. Nor do I have any sympathy for any Brexiteer in any shape or form.

@nicky7654
But what I don’t understand is the only reason the EU boats fish in U.K. waters more than the U.K. fisherman do is because the fishing industry sold off the quotas in the 90s

Why did they do that? Genuinely

As for the exports this has been done purposely by the EU as retaliation for leaving but lorries coming into the UK are fine.
The fact that the UK has chosen not to control its borders is
a) against WTO rules
b) a smugglers charter
c) because the Government have not managed to hire enough customs officers to take back control

Thanks for reply, Nicky. It's just some of what you wrote is vague.

If a Holland factory ship registered in UK is too foreign - what would make a ship not foreign? Is it something like 60% British owned -- but what is test of that? 60% of the ownership is by someone/company tax domiciled in UK? I read something on June Mummery's page similar to that. Would that rule help fisher-people like your husband, if the 60% ownership was still by some nameless city venture capital fund quite happy to profit from Factory ships?

On balance, do you think terms fisher-folk have now are better than when UK were EU members, or worse terms, or about the same?

scortish
Not much of that around when people like me were being called traitors, scum and elite snowflakes.
So...nah.
And anyway, all brexshitters knew exactly what they were voting for, asked are told ad nauseum.
And what about the industrial and retail workers and their kids?
Or is it only fishing folk that count?
What have I done about the suffering caused by brexit?
Funded, set up and run a foodbank...what have you done?

Filthy business anyway so they get what’s coming to them. Same for cattle, sheep and chicken farmers hopefully. The world is better without these hideous industries. Be gone already. Let’s hope they all end and we can look forward to a better, cleaner, more humane and vegetarian future

This 100 per cent. Fuck 'em.

Yep.
Fuck em.

narnia
They tend to get shirty when you remind them their own greed brought them to this.
Go figure!

@nicky7654

Wow My Husband has been a fisherman for 35 years. You haven't a damn clue you stupid woman !!! Time you actually have a conversation with the fishing community and your actually learn something.

What did you both vote @nicky7654?

Lorries...
I have impression GB is basically not enforcing borders, that's why it's easy for EU lorries to get into GB. The paperwork is nothing or not being even looked at. Only for covid reasons, I suppose.

EU is controlling its borders. That's why it's hard for GB lorries to enter EU.

GB is planning to start controlling the freight entries soon. EU was organised sooner than GB.

@Scottishskifun
Sorry but I have people around me who are working in industries that have lost so much to the sham that Brexit is that I have no sympathy for anyone who voted for it. Learning the hard way is a real thing you know.

But only other people where supposed to suffer!

Ownership of UK fishing quotas is controversial and often misunderstood. After total EU fishing limits are decided by the Council of fisheries ministers, it is up to each member state to distribute its share among its own fleet

This is not an EU decision
The fact that a single giant Dutch-owned vessel nets a quarter of the English quota (6% of the UK total) might be shocking, especially considering the UK’s quota is in theory shared between more than 6,000 vessels, but the UK government could easily change how it allocates fish. In fact, the alternative allocation systems suggested by some pro-Brexit groups are already in place elsewhere in Europe^

Tsk tsk pesky facts again!

I do think the fishing industry has been fucked over for at least 100 years.

But much of its downfall is due to the same old same old, greed.