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On our way to Biden's Inauguration (Trump #119)

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Roussette · 09/01/2021 11:21

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PerkingFaintly · 11/01/2021 10:39

Just one more piece of analysis from someone monitoring the Trumpie boards.

The Man Who Saw Yesterday’s Coup Attempt Coming Is Only Surprised It Wasn’t Much Worse
“It was not the army I expected it to be.”
www.gq.com/story/man-predicted-capitol-coup-interview

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 11/01/2021 10:41

Another question: have there been any reliable reports at all of anyone counter-protesting against Trump's army of thugs on 6th?

The authorities can't have it all ways: that NBC news article mentioned a report suggesting that "the mass event (which will be held in the National Mall and outside the Capitol) is likely to spark street violence, some of which may be lethal, between Antifa and Trump supporters or far-right groups."

Was there in fact any of that, or did "Antifa" (whoever the hell that is supposed to be) stay away?

Incidentally, that's another foreign word: it's short for the German prewar organisation antifaschistisch, short for Antifaschistische Aktion (1932–1933). Came back in when Trump or one of his handlers coined it for a catch-all boo-word in 2017.

DGRossetti · 11/01/2021 10:57

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On our way to Biden's Inauguration (Trump #119)
ListeningQuietly · 11/01/2021 10:58

These people want the oxygen of publicity.
I'm not wild about seeing links to Parler on here

viques · 11/01/2021 11:01

Down to single digits in the countdown! It’s more exciting than Christmas, I wish someone had had the forethought to produce a Trumpvent Calendar, though actually, they wouldn’t have been able to predict last week so probably best no one did.

BruceAndNosh · 11/01/2021 11:05

Less than a scaramucci to go!
(a scaramucci is 11 days)

BruceAndNosh · 11/01/2021 11:08

Some wailing about PGA cancelling Bedminster as venue for a golf major in 2022
"loss of revenue and jobs etc"
I'm sure decent citizens of the town are fed up with the Trump circus every time he rolls up to play

terrywynne · 11/01/2021 11:21

@BruceAndNosh

Some wailing about PGA cancelling Bedminster as venue for a golf major in 2022 "loss of revenue and jobs etc" I'm sure decent citizens of the town are fed up with the Trump circus every time he rolls up to play
I saw a quote complaining about how the PGA can't terminate a binding contract. So like the president can't override the binding vote of the public then?
CaveMum · 11/01/2021 11:23

@DGRossetti

People forget and move on scarily fast. I see it with the anti-vax movement too. People in western countries increasingly have no direct experience of measles and polio epidemics that killed their family members and friends so they don't fear the disease and can make comments about how people survived in the past without vaccines.

Well, there is a slightly Darwinist aspect to all this. Thick peoples kids will die and we will thin out any genetic tendency towards low energy critical thinking.

I still wonder how much of our current situation is connected to the fact that in the 20th century we managed to cull the best and brightest men of a generation ? Not once. But twice in 30 years. Leaving us with either the thick or the cowardly to lead us into a brave future.

As I mentioned upthread, the podcast on conspiracy theories points out that vaccine CS theorists are the outlier in that the majority of the believers are usually middle class!

Have you seen the film "Idiocracy"? It's a comedy sci-fi film where the premise is that people of higher IQ are likely to have children later in life (due to attending higher education and establishing a career before procreating) whereas people with a lower IQ will have children younger and therefore more of them. As the "stupid" people breed at a faster rate than the "clever" people at some point in the future the balance will tip and the "stupid" will far outnumber the "clever".

In the film the main character (played by Luke Wilson) is an "average American" soldier selected to take part in a top secret project that sees him frozen and woken up 500 years later where society is so stupid that he is now the most intelligent person in the world.

Sometimes I think its more of a warning than a comedy!

DGRossetti · 11/01/2021 11:24

PGA can't terminate a binding contract

I'd be amazed if there wasn't a weasel clause in the contract allowing it to be terminated in certain cases.

If Trump is that upset, he knows where the courts are.

Destinysdaughter · 11/01/2021 11:28

Think I've gone down a rabbit hole. This is some of the batshit crazy thinking these pp are propagating. It's easy to see how they get so worked up if they genuinely believe stuff like this.

www.mymilitia.com/forums/topic/77613-first-they-silence-you-then-they-come-to-kill-you…-mass-genocide-against-conservatives-is-no-1-on-the-left’s-list-of-priorities/

"The communist / Marxist purge is on. The tyrannical Left has now deemed all conservatives, Christians, Trump supporters and gun owners to be “terrorists” who must be completely silenced by any means necessary. But after the silencing comes the killing fields, of course. Remember: If they don’t think you have the right to speak, they don’t think you have the right to exist.

Prepare for war to break out across America. You are now living behind enemy lines. Any who oppose the CCP and its puppets (Biden, Brennan, etc.) will be targeted for economic destruction or kinetic executions (government deaths squads)."

DGRossetti · 11/01/2021 11:29

Have you seen the film "Idiocracy"? It's a comedy sci-fi film where the premise is that people of higher IQ are likely to have children later in life (due to attending higher education and establishing a career before procreating) whereas people with a lower IQ will have children younger and therefore more of them. As the "stupid" people breed at a faster rate than the "clever" people at some point in the future the balance will tip and the "stupid" will far outnumber the "clever".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_pattern

A geneticist once stated that it would be possible to raise the lifespan of humans to 150, 200 quite easily, if we were all prepared to undergo a species-wide long-term breeding regime of having children later and later and later in life.

In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I think it's best to assume that nature - and humans part in it - is a chaotic system and unyielding to any general solution approach.

blueangel19 · 11/01/2021 11:52

The communist / Marxist purge is on. Did not AOC asked for a list of Trump voters to be kept and held them accountable? It was on her Twitter the day after they won the elections.

Roussette · 11/01/2021 12:03

(Talk about a lack of critical thinking on my part.)

Nah. It's me with my cynical hat on!

i would love to know what's going on in Pence's head right now. Why doesn't he invoke the 25th? It has been made more than clear that Trump was prepared to sacrifice his life for the sake of himself. (not forgetting his children and wife were in the building too)
Why doesn't he?
It's obvious his loyalty meant nothing to Trump. Why do these people just roll over and take it.

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DGRossetti · 11/01/2021 12:08

i would love to know what's going on in Pence's head right now. Why doesn't he invoke the 25th?

What's in it for Pence ? That's the question. I'm guessing right now the answer is "not much".

I've not really seen much these past few years that suggest many people in power - US or UK - have anything else on their agenda. Certainly not the well being of the country and/or their constituents.

Destinysdaughter · 11/01/2021 12:13

Isn't it because he doesn't want to incur the wrath of the Trump supporters? They already see him as a traitor, imagine how much worse it would be for Pence if he did this.

Roussette · 11/01/2021 12:14

If I'd had my life and my family's life threatened, I'm not sure I would be walking away from that person without exacting revenge justice...

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Mittens030869 · 11/01/2021 12:15

I agree. They threatened to hang him on Wednesday, didn't they? I never liked him, but I'd hate to be in his position now.

DGRossetti · 11/01/2021 12:18

@Mittens030869

I agree. They threatened to hang him on Wednesday, didn't they? I never liked him, but I'd hate to be in his position now.
You need to stand up to bullies, not do what they want.
Roussette · 11/01/2021 12:22

twitter.com/AmyLeRue/status/1348405626020524036

Chilling.
Trump last Monday in a room full of people telling everyone what he intended to do.
T 'The calm before the storm'
'What storm Mr President?'
T 'You'll find out'

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PerkingFaintly · 11/01/2021 12:30

There is no good way out for someone in Pence's position.

The long-term lieutenant to the cult leader can either stand by his man and go down with the cult leader; or he can redeem himself at the last minute and take the cult leader out – and then himself be taken out by the mob. When the mob has been in the same building shouting "hang Mike Pence" and has erected a gallows outside, that's moved on a bit from "taking out" just meaning losing his career.

I suppose it's possible that Pence has found god in the last few days – the New Testament one who loves people and sacrifices himself, rather than the OT one who just smites, tests and punishes them.

But I don't really see him having physical courage or trusting to the afterlife for his rewards.

DGRossetti · 11/01/2021 12:32

But I don't really see him having physical courage or trusting to the afterlife for his rewards.

Like a lot of religious people, his "religion" is merely a way to say "I'm better than you". He doesn't really believe it.

CaveMum · 11/01/2021 12:32

I'm pretty sure that is an old clip @Roussette. Bizzarely I've just been listening to my West Wing podcast - which I often do while I work - and I'm pretty certain that they just played an identical clip in the podcast which was recorded in 2017 as a comparison between Trump and Bartlett.