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Capitol Hill and the next 2 weeks (Trump #118)

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Roussette · 07/01/2021 10:52

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4128051-Coup-on-Capitol-Hill-Trump-117

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YippeeKayakOtherBuckets · 08/01/2021 14:51

He’s back shitposting on Twitter...

Capitol Hill and the next 2 weeks (Trump #118)
lionheart · 08/01/2021 14:52

More accounts from journalists caught up in the mob.

www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/us/politics/capitol-lockdown.html

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 14:54

[quote lionheart]www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-aiding-capitol-violence-world-watches-shows-u-s-now-ncna1253336

www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/charlottesville-echoes-trump-capitol-coup?mbid=social_twitter&utm_brand=vf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned[/quote]
Following the nbc article, I wonder how the Tories incestuous connection to Trump and Republicans is starting to look to the general population of the UK ?

If Tories did want to try and kill the "Gove for PM" movement, could this be it ?

Capitol Hill and the next 2 weeks (Trump #118)
SanFranBear · 08/01/2021 14:56

Those charges are pathetic! Although the fact 4 people were charged with possession of a 'large capacity ammunition feeding device'.. what the fuck is that? An uzi?

lionheart · 08/01/2021 14:57

On that video.

www.thedailybeast.com/trump-was-pleased-as-mob-stormed-capitol-report-says

'But even that two-and-a-half-minute video came not after Trump realized the scope of the damage of the riots but after he realized he could personally face legal trouble, according to the Times. He is said to have initially been against making the video and agreed to it only after it became clear that prosecutors intended to scrutinize his comments to supporters before the coup.'

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 14:58

@SanFranBear

Those charges are pathetic! Although the fact 4 people were charged with possession of a 'large capacity ammunition feeding device'.. what the fuck is that? An uzi?
haven't some states tried to limit clip sizes ?

Uzis are legal in most states, I believe.

dreamingbohemian · 08/01/2021 14:59

My understanding is that Pelosi will reconvene the House on Monday and they can vote to send the Articles directly to the entire House for a vote that day (skipping the committee stages).

There would be no practical effect to impeachment as it's unlikely the Senate would convict. But I do think it's important to officially censure Trump in this way, and force senators to openly pick sides. It's better than nothing. And it will keep him distracted a bit. A lot of people are still worried he'll try something with Iran right before he leaves office.

Lweji · 08/01/2021 15:00

"Public records show Babbitt, married in 2019, had since 2017 owned a San Diego-area swimming pool service. Court records show no criminal history, and civil suits were limited to a credit card collection against her husband and a lone business dispute. She featured pictures of herself and her husband, and support for the military, on her professional sites."

But...
She had been acquitted, but she had been taken to court on violence related charges, and had had two restraining orders.

metro.co.uk/2021/01/07/trump-supporter-shot-dead-by-police-had-history-of-criminal-charges-13868868/?ico=related-posts

I find the shrine to her, and other rioters offensive. Particularly as a police officer ended up dead.

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 15:03

A lot of people are still worried he'll try something with Iran right before he leaves office.

If one man has that power, then the US has always been fucked. It was only ever going to be a matter of time.

If he can get that power because people won't do their jobs (for whatever reason) then it's a slightly different story, although no better to the rest of the world.

Even Stalin didn't have that power.

But a Monarch does.

lionheart · 08/01/2021 15:06

Look who's back:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
19m

'The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!'

dreamingbohemian · 08/01/2021 15:10

@DGRossetti

A lot of people are still worried he'll try something with Iran right before he leaves office.

If one man has that power, then the US has always been fucked. It was only ever going to be a matter of time.

If he can get that power because people won't do their jobs (for whatever reason) then it's a slightly different story, although no better to the rest of the world.

Even Stalin didn't have that power.

But a Monarch does.

Not sure what you mean. A British prime minister can order an airstrike, does that make him a monarch too?

The worry is that Trump will order some kind of airstrike on an Iranian nuclear site as a provocation, unleashing a whole bloody war right before he leaves.

RedToothBrush · 08/01/2021 15:11

'In a moment of extreme pooor judgement'

Yeah ok. So it was a rush of blood to the head that made you go to a trump rally in the first place...

I hope he loses his job and cant find another

AcrossthePond55 · 08/01/2021 15:13

@lionheart

Look who's back:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
19m

'The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!'

Well, fuck.

Why doesn't Twitter grow a backbone? Even Zuckerberg has banned him 'indefinitely'.

AcrossthePond55 · 08/01/2021 15:21

large capacity ammunition feeding device

It's a HUGE magazine (clip) that holds a lot of ammo. Some states have laws that limit the number of bullets per clip. They're usually either a circular or a long rectangular looking thingy.

For those unfamiliar, it's the 'thingy' you see someone put the bullets in then they shove it into the gun.

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 15:24

A British prime minister can order an airstrike, does that make him a monarch too?

But the people under him are technically sworn to the monarch - who ain't him. Which means they have the express position of saying "are you sure sir ?"

Also, since Cameron - parliament is in the loop at some point.

So no, the UK position is not that a rogue PM can order airstrikes and expect to be obeyed without question.

Up until now, I had naively assumed the US had similar safeguards. But if Trump is able to order an airstrike with no one in the chain of command to do their duty to the country then it seems I was wrong. Oh well.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/01/2021 15:31

A British Prime Minister has the power to order a nuclear strike on his or her own authority, but only after his or her death.

Within minutes of taking over, a new Prime Minister must write a letter to Britain's four nuclear submarine captains - known as the "letter of last resort". It will tell them what they should do in the event of a nuclear strike which destroys the country's leadership.

So he or she has a sort of ultimate suicide option: "If I am killed, wipe out the world."

Scared yet?

DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 15:33

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

A British Prime Minister has the power to order a nuclear strike on his or her own authority, but only after his or her death.

Within minutes of taking over, a new Prime Minister must write a letter to Britain's four nuclear submarine captains - known as the "letter of last resort". It will tell them what they should do in the event of a nuclear strike which destroys the country's leadership.

So he or she has a sort of ultimate suicide option: "If I am killed, wipe out the world."

Scared yet?

That old trope of fighting the last war applies. In this case a cold war that ended in 1989.

I often wonder if there are real nuclear warheads in Trident anyway. After all, if they weren't how would we ever know ?

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 08/01/2021 15:42

@lionheart

Look who's back:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
19m

'The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!'

Could I just say: "LOCK HIM UP!" (Altogether, now!)
DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 15:44

Why doesn't Twitter grow a backbone?

They need the revenue. Whatever your thoughts on Trump, he draws in readers and makes adverts very profitable.

In a word: Mammon.

Roussette · 08/01/2021 15:47

The worry is that Trump will order some kind of airstrike on an Iranian nuclear site as a provocation, unleashing a whole bloody war right before he leaves

I imagine that any kind of airstrike takes afew days to agree and TBH I think we're at the stage where Trump will not be obeyed, given he's been close to Article25 and impeachment.

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Roussette · 08/01/2021 15:49

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.

I just had to reply didn't I......

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DGRossetti · 08/01/2021 15:51

@Roussette

Donald J. Trump *@realDonaldTrump* To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.

I just had to reply didn't I......

Establishing an alibi ?

Or alleebee ?

(as I said on another thread, lockdown is biting ...)

Mittens030869 · 08/01/2021 15:52

He's not attending? Oh well, I can't imagine Biden will be too bothered at the snub. Wink

MedusasBadHairDay · 08/01/2021 15:53

@Roussette

Donald J. Trump *@realDonaldTrump* To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.

I just had to reply didn't I......

No shit, of course he doesn't want to be there, he's hoping for another attack. He's not going to put himself in harms way is he?