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How does the Irish middle class compare to ours

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Norfolker · 04/01/2021 13:13

My sister in law is from the Republic & she says the class system in Ireland is there but less obvious than ours.. Not as many private schools but more subtle markers.
She also thinks their state education system is far superior so private schooling is unnecessary. Any Irish on here want to elaborate? I found it interesting.
YABU there is no difference between UK & ROI. Exact same class system no difference in markets.
YANBU different traits contribute to the Irish middle class system

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atswim2birds · 07/01/2021 17:59

They were absolutely deplorable in 2008. So hopefully we've come a long way since

One place, 13 years ago. So by all means pretend you can state what they are like everywhere now...Hmm

NothingICanDo · 07/01/2021 18:00

How can you be embarrassed when you don't know what we do or don't do?
did u see my post above about staying at mosney in 2008?
It's true I dont know what it's like now but I cant I can only hope its miles better.

Hatstrategicallydipped · 07/01/2021 18:00

@atswim2birds

Sometimes I'm embarrassed of what we do or don't do more specifically

How can you be embarrassed when you don't know what we do or don't do?

I read a lot of articles. We should be world leading, not trailing behind other countries.
NothingICanDo · 07/01/2021 18:00

One place, 13 years ago. So by all means pretend you can state what they are like everywhere now...hmm

Have you slept at one ?ever?

NothingICanDo · 07/01/2021 18:01

One place, 13 years ago. So by all means pretend you can state what they are like everywhere now...hmm I didn't state that they are all like that now. At all. You can calm down now. Wink

Hatstrategicallydipped · 07/01/2021 18:03

@atswim2birds

If you read through my posts on this thread, you'll see that I have linked 2 articles about Syrian refugees who have gone on to study dentistry and medicine respectively. For balance, I've posted an article about a proposed asylum centre (a hotel in Rooskey) being burned to the ground TWICE.

Hatstrategicallydipped · 07/01/2021 18:06

I know the hotel in Rooskey as we used to go to Feiseanna there as children. I remember the feiseanna fondly as we were allowed to run wild around the hotel as little ones after we had finished dancing. I had an older brother, so I got to roam around before he did.

I am ashamed that the hotel was burnt down twice. That is bloody disgraceful.

PenelopePunt · 07/01/2021 21:33

@HeyGirlHeyBoy

Yes of course hat, but I'm wondering in what context she uses her IL's address for?
She said that when she was first applying for jobs post-uni, she was struggling to get interviews despite being 3rd on the class list. This was 20 years ago, so her ILs to be suggested she use their address. She got an interview with the same bank who had ignored her earlier CVs and started two weeks later. She was made redundant and said she had the same problem. Once she went back to using her ILs address, she got interviews again. I thought it was a stretch but other people agreed that their address was held against them if it was a blind application (not a recommendation)
HeyGirlHeyBoy · 07/01/2021 21:41

Ah OK, for interviews, I didn't see that earlier, knew it had to be something specific, couldn't figure it out.

mathanxiety · 08/01/2021 00:02

@Hatstrategicallydipped, no, RCIS isn't fee paying any more.

  • All RCSI Undergraduate degree programmes are covered under the Irish Government’s Free Fees Initiative.

  • Under the terms of the Free Fees Initiative, the Irish Exchequer will pay tuition fees on behalf of students who:

    Meet the eligibility criteria for EU applicant status, as outlined in more detail above
    Undertake a full-time undergraduate course of at least two years' duration
    Are first time, full-time undergraduate students, and
    Are not repeating the year due to failing exams or changing course (Note: This exclusion may be waived if repeating a year due to a certified serious illness.)

How much do I pay under the Free Fees Initiative?

The Free Fees Initiative covers the tuition component of your Undergraduate Medicine course fee
Students covered under Free Fees are required to pay the balance of non-tuition costs which are shown below

....
Total fees (for academic year 2020/2021) €3,890

www.rcsi.com/dublin/undergraduate/medicine/fees-and-funding

madmara · 08/01/2021 00:44

being burned to the ground TWICE

Wow, so they burned it, waited until it was rebuilt and then burned it down again? Shocking.

Cacacoisfarraige · 08/01/2021 12:28

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Hatstrategicallydipped · 08/01/2021 14:08

@madmara

being burned to the ground TWICE

Wow, so they burned it, waited until it was rebuilt and then burned it down again? Shocking.

I actually don't know whether the second fire was found to be arson or not. Bit of a coincidence though....
mathanxiety · 08/01/2021 21:51

Yes, a large proportion of international students was always my impression of the RCSI.too.

bevm72yellow · 29/08/2021 03:36

Well the ones I know went to our two local Catholic secondary schools and a handful (ones with 2 or 3 kids) went to Protestant secondary schools. The ones with 4, 5 or 6 or more kids went to local secondaries due to lack of finance. We used to give them a touch of gentle sectarian abuse but they got over it and are just the same as everyone else.

bevm72yellow · 29/08/2021 03:51

@Cacacoisfarraige Wed 06-Jan-21 17:53:17
Gaeltacht summers are probably quite a middle class thing - heading to an Irish speaking region for a few weeks to speak irish and embrace all Irish culture.

Similarly to be Irish middle class you need to have a house in the Irish country/by the coast but it usually needs to be a damp money pit 😀😀 .You swear you rather it over a trip anywhere warm, as you spend the first week trying to rid the mattresses of damp 😀😀 and get a heating oil delivery.
You will have no tv (time for the family to chill and chat and read) and usually shit internet (Which will drive the kids mad and you secretly).
Your DH will go cycling and golfing while you stock up and clean the perpetual sand dragged into the house while cursing the shit vacuum cleaner you invested in for the holiday home as all the cleaners have fucked off for the summer to work in hotels.
You will have kayaks (stored) or ideally have a small boat and your Dh will be obsessed with tides 😀 Wed 06-Jan-21 17:53:17
Gaeltacht summers are probably quite a middle class thing - heading to an Irish speaking region for a few weeks to speak irish and embrace all Irish culture.

Similarly to be Irish middle class you need to have a house in the Irish country/by the coast but it usually needs to be a damp money pit 😀😀 .You swear you rather it over a trip anywhere warm, as you spend the first week trying to rid the mattresses of damp 😀😀 and get a heating oil delivery.
You will have no tv (time for the family to chill and chat and read) and usually shit internet (Which will drive the kids mad and you secretly).
Your DH will go cycling and golfing while you stock up and clean the perpetual sand dragged into the house while cursing the shit vacuum cleaner you invested in for the holiday home as all the cleaners have fucked off for the summer to work in hotels.
You will have kayaks (stored) or ideally have a small boat and your Dh will be obsessed with tides

This is it to a T.... 😂😂😂😂

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