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I would say

Pineapple on pizza is decent

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Very few women worked after getting married; they stayed at home to raise the children and keep house. The man was considered the head of the household in ...

Veganism is BULLSHIT! And super UNHEALTHY! No matter how much you whine and screech about it, you are being an idiot for not taking note that meat helped us develop the brains we have, and ignoring the TINY FACT that we are omnivores!

Processed produced in a factory food:
Quorn
Almond milk/oat milk etc etc
Chicken flavoured / cheating' chicken (why ? I thought they didn't eat meat, but they enjoy the flavour. Right oh, love. What ever you say.) More processed factory produced Frankenstein food.
Fakin' bacon. Again, why ? They like the flavour but don't expect to have to chew their food.

I just think it's babyish. It's pandering to those whose' pallets never developed past the age of four years old. Just stick a label on it i.e. vegetarian or vegan and you get the special food that's better than what other people have.

But if saying you're a vegetarian means you can eat chocolate, crisps, chips etc etc etc then that's just so cool.

Yes I get that there was a marriage bar @Cokie3 but again this only affected those women working in more traditionally Middle class occupations. Your quote mentions clerical and teaching occupations. These were not occupations available or attainable by a lot of women. You must see that? Working class women kept on working because they had mo choice. They needed the money. I doubt many women were told to leave their cleaning job because they were married 🙄

@SkinnyMinnieee

the women cleaned offices early in the morning or late at night. (To fit around their work at home) No fancy jobs for them, just more drudgery. But apparently that's not taught in history or sociology so can't possibly be true.

Sounds better than working in a coal mine!

I'm very glad to hear it

Goodness @SimonJT imagine expecting people to get to know each other before having sex

Main one would probably be..50k really does not automatically make someone 'well off'. So many factors come into it, and its very possible to still be skint with that income. I say this as someone who currently lives on under half that, and has in the past relied solely on benefits.

If someone posts about how they're considering going NC with their very toxic mother, anyone who posts along the lines of "I wish I had a minute with my mother as she's dead" is horrible.

@Lily193

I believe the concept of 'family money' is a load of bullshit. DH agrees.

I also agree with this. We have a joint account for bills, but have our own accounts into which our salaries are paid.

[quote Mommabear20]@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows I'm not saying I have all the answers! Just expressing my opinion that it's unfair! Yes, it's complicated and probably impossible to ever find a'fair' way to judge it. And in my opinion, abortion is murder, the baby has a heartbeat and one way or another that heart beat is stopped. I don't judge people who have abortions, I have friends that have had them, and that's their choice, but i do feel for the men who desperately want their children and are basically told tough shit! [/quote]
It is not a baby. It is a blastocyst. Or an embryo, or a foetus.

Also, there is no true heartbeat until much later in the pregnancy. When the vast overwhelming majority of terminations are performed, the embryo has no actual heartbeat.

Know what does have a heartbeat? BORN, EXISTING, HUMAN WOMEN.

JonasKahnwald

Now that is truly outrageous. I've bought several horses over the years without prior discussion and I'm not divorced...yet.

Processed produced in a factory food:
Chicken nuggets
Ginsters
Sausage rolls
Processed meats
Fish fingers

A marriage bar is the practice of restricting the employment of married women.[1] Common in Western countries throughout the 1900s

History didn't start and end in 1900, it existed for a lot of years prior to that and a lot of years since

In mainland UK, the marriage bar was introduced to some lines of business in the years between the two world wars so c.1920s to around the early 40s. It was mainly used to prioritise jobs for men as a result of the depression but women could be granted a waiver in order to gain/continue in a job, for example of a factory couldn't fill all the required jobs with male candidates they could waive the marriage bar and take on female ones.

Class = how much money do you parents have

I agree that is pretty much the definition but I've never really understood this. It seems to me that "class" is a myth. You can't predict allegiances, ideals, or beliefs by social or economic classification.

@JonasKahnwald

Yes I get that there was a marriage bar *@Cokie3* but again this only affected those women working in more traditionally Middle class occupations. Your quote mentions clerical and teaching occupations. These were not occupations available or attainable by a lot of women. You must see that? Working class women kept on working because they had mo choice. They needed the money. I doubt many women were told to leave their cleaning job because they were married 🙄

No, you are wrong. It was the middle and upper classes where then women continued to work as they were allowed due to the class. Working class women were barred from working after they were MARRIED. They may have took in some ironing or washing but they were not allowed to hold down a full time job. A simple google search will show you this.

What you are saying was the exception, not the norm.

@Vates

I think newborns are ugly, like seriously ugly. They do not look like anyone except maybe a random wrinkly elderly grandpa. I adore my Nephew but just smiled and nodded when family were saying 'isn't he gorgeous! and 'Oh, wow he looks like you!'.

Absolutely. I always throw in a "beautiful baby" or whatever to be polite when newborn pics do the rounds on WhatsApp but honestly never seen a newborn that isn't repulsive. They're boring too, no redeeming features at all

@ToffeeNotCoffee

*Veganism is BULLSHIT! And super UNHEALTHY! No matter how much you whine and screech about it, you are being an idiot for not taking note that meat helped us develop the brains we have, and ignoring the TINY FACT that we are omnivores!*

Processed produced in a factory food:
Quorn
Almond milk/oat milk etc etc
Chicken flavoured / cheating' chicken (why ? I thought they didn't eat meat, but they enjoy the flavour. Right oh, love. What ever you say.) More processed factory produced Frankenstein food.
Fakin' bacon. Again, why ? They like the flavour but don't expect to have to chew their food.

I just think it's babyish. It's pandering to those whose' pallets never developed past the age of four years old. Just stick a label on it i.e. vegetarian or vegan and you get the special food that's better than what other people have.

But if saying you're a vegetarian means you can eat chocolate, crisps, chips etc etc etc then that's just so cool.

I have never eaten any of those things, or any other meat substitutes.

So do you also think people from cultures where vegetarianism is traditional are babyish?

I love living in London.

I don’t have kids and I don’t particularly like other people’s. I’m just here for the mindless entertainment.

My ILs are all totally fine and normal people and nobody has a personality disorder.

@HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee

Ok,I’m in london because I don’t want to live in the regions in a boxy off plan house. I don’t want that life Don’t want bog standard life or dinner at cafe rouge or a regular job I want to be in a world city where I use my specialist skills to the max.

That's nice for you. But having lived in London fro a lot of years and moved north that's not my life. I have loads more money. We own our own home (140 year old town house). I work in the cultural sector which isn't well apid. But is very hard to get into and opportunities are not wide spread. Yet I have several niche jobs since moving. My partner earns well for a arms length org working across the country.

In terms of leisure there's lots of independent galleries, restaurants cinemas and theaters. I also still get to go to London for the exhibitions I really want to see. Eg kubrick at design museum. (obvs all pre covid)

So don't pop all non London people into a box of dull morons eating at chain restaurants! I actually have a much better quality of life now.

I understand about being in a big city, but really for lots of Londoners they aren't in a position to take advantage of if.

[quote Mommabear20]@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows I'm not saying I have all the answers! Just expressing my opinion that it's unfair! Yes, it's complicated and probably impossible to ever find a'fair' way to judge it. And in my opinion, abortion is murder, the baby has a heartbeat and one way or another that heart beat is stopped. I don't judge people who have abortions, I have friends that have had them, and that's their choice, but i do feel for the men who desperately want their children and are basically told tough shit! [/quote]
No your opinion was that men should have an equal say - that is not possible unless you are forcing women to either carry children they don't want, or abort babies they really do want. It may not be fair buts it's not fair that it only happens to a woman's body either. Life isn't fair sometimes and it's not always in the best interests of everyone to try and make it fair for the sake of it.

And you don't have all the answers because you haven't for a second thought past your one dimensional narrow minded 1950's view.

And abortion isn't under FYI. Emotional manipulation of words won't wash here.

@Mommabear20 then the men should fuck some 'pro-life' women rather than the ones who know that they have a choice. It isn't a mans body that the baby grows in, it's not the man that could potentially die in labour and if the man decided they then didn't want to be involved in the child's life then the mother would be stuck. Just because 'I want' doesn't give you the right over anyone elses body.

I always find these threads so disturbing because it shows just how awful the vast majority of people really are

I can't see the point in having a £150k salary when you have to work 50-60 hours a week, barely see the dc and can only afford a 2 bed flat in central London. What's the point? Move a couple of hours away, get a bog standard £25k job, buy a lovely big house, work 35 hours a week and spend time with your family. Nicer life all around.

But if you’re capable of doing a £150k job, why would you want to settle for ‘bog standard’? And why assume everyone wants a big house?

There’s a pervasive view amongst some people that a big house equals success and happiness, and that life in London must be crap because even if you’re rich, you can’t afford a huge house. These people don’t seem to consider that people aren’t just paying London prices because they have to be there - maybe that actually WANT to be there. I’d be bored silly in a big house in Worcester or Kettering - and as for the extra space, I only have one body and it can only sleep in one bed.

@JudgeRindersMinder

I’m on a roll now....class is very much an English thing rather than a British thing-you very rarely hear of it in Scotland

I keep reading this and whilst I agree it's true, I can only assume a lot of people don't come across many Asian/Indians where they live because they are also very obsessed with class.

Ooooh, great thread, I am coming in very late, but will read through it all soon.

Here's mine...

Women should not have babies past the age of 42.

No-one on mumsnet earns more than £100K a year. (A few people do in real life, like just under 5% of the population, but no-one on here does...)

At least 50% of what people post on mumsnet is made up, or exaggerated.

No 'career' deserves special treatment, or for people to be 'in awe' of them. They chose it and they get paid for it. And they shouldn't be getting money off stuff, and special concessions either.

No-one should ever receive tips. Not since the minimum wage came in (in the late 1990s.)

Brexit is one of the best things to happen to the UK, even if we can't see that yet, as the E.U. are nothing but a bunch of passive aggressive, manipulative control freaks. And they cannot BEAR it that we have our own minds, and have had the audacity to leave them (and take our £1.2 billion a month with us.)

Controlled immigration is good. For EVERY country. Including ours. And everyone coming in should be financially solvent, OR have a legitimate profession they can offer us.

Prosecco is shit.

Mrs Brown's Boy is brilliant.

Lots of women are actually happy to be stay-at-home-mums, (and to have their DH be the main breadwinner,.) And many have no desire to have a 'career.' Women 'having it all' is utter bollocks. It's untenable for 99% of women.

Veganism is bullshit. Not possible long-term for most people, and not the best thing for most peoples health.

Being a homeowner/mortgage owner does not make you any better than people who rent.

Finally, someone having a different opinion to you does not make them a bad person or 'nasty' or 'awful.' Anymore than YOUR opinions make you a 'nice' person! So do grow up.