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To think we should bring back the clapping

439 replies

NYEPOPPER1 · 30/12/2020 23:50

We seem to be in a similar position to March and the NHS is coming under serious strain. Aibu to think now is the time to bring back the clapping?

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LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 31/12/2020 12:02

Woops bold fail

CovoidOfAllHumanity · 31/12/2020 12:43

It was quite nice for a few weeks the first time when it felt genuine but I was happy when it stopped.

As a front line NHS person I would like to feel that the public do support us. At the start I thought they did but lately haven't been so sure.

In recent months there's been a lot of talk about 'empty hospitals' 'staff sitting around' 'cancelling operations' as though we somehow wanted to do that or did it for an easy life. More of the usual 'the NHS is shit' 'why don't we privatise' 'x, y, z other country is better'

I'd rather some supportive comments and challenging this unhelpful shit than clapping really.
Oh and don't vote for Tory governments. BLM got criticised for saying defund the police well voting Tory is a vote to defund the NHS so maybe have a think on that.

This has definitely been the worst year of my working life but the way things are going right now next year might top it. I've already had COVID myself and in many ways I am relieved. The fear of having it very badly was there a bit but my main fear was of passing it on to others and being responsible for killing people. The inability to give your best service because of restrictions. The constant weigh up of Covid risk vs other serious risks. Constant fear of a major outbreak on my ward. Dealing with all the fear and grief and anger of patients, relatives and indeed colleagues.

Clapping is not massively helpful
Checking in with any health care people you know and offering a shoulder to cry on, speaking positively about the NHS and voting to increase its funding are the most helpful things.

FilledSoda · 31/12/2020 12:56

Absolutely not .
I can't work out if you're just trying to wind people up with this nonsense.

TheNighthawk · 31/12/2020 13:15

This NHS worship is beyond comprehension.

It is a shit service. I say this as a former NHS Dr.

Some of the staff are good. Many are not.

Big questions need to be asked about what exactly we are getting for our money but are not because we pay through taxes and not at the point of access.

Forget clapping.

Foghead · 31/12/2020 13:17

I think it’s so patronising ‘here you are doing your job. Yes, you’re at risk, yes, we’re rubbish at ensuring your safety and can’t give you the basic safety equipment to do your job well, yes you’re overworked and stressed but here you go, here’s some clapping. Look how everyone claps for you. Well done.’

alltheadrenalin · 31/12/2020 13:19

I never did it first time round

PolytheneHam · 31/12/2020 13:41

Christ. No. I'm an NHS worker and I found it hugely patronising.

GuiEtVin · 31/12/2020 13:45

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SabrinaTheMiddleAgedBitch · 31/12/2020 13:51

If it had been a one off it would have been lovely. At this point it would seem hollow and if I was a NHS worker I would be pretty annoyed by it. Everyone is just bracing themselves for the next few months, nobody can be arsed OP

SabrinaTheMiddleAgedBitch · 31/12/2020 13:51

@GuiEtVin

Our street has a few families who completely tried to outdo one another with the clapping. The same families will post on the local Facebook page about school kids walking too close to each other. They're also the ones who had about twenty people piling into their houses on Christmas Eve,
We had a trombone at one point Grin
dayswithaY · 31/12/2020 13:55

Please no more clapping. It was nice as a one off but it got totally hijacked and ruined by gobshite show-offs like my neighbour. Every Thursday it was like It's A Knockout with competitive car and air horns and the meaning got totally lost and it became a chance for people to leave their homes and make noise. The same idiots who banged pots and pans completely ignored government advice.

The self appointed leader of the clapping in our street is also anti mask wearing and will proudly tell you he is. This is the level of intelligence you are dealing with here - proudly supporting the NHS while ignoring simple safety rules.

The same people tried to organise carols, mince pies and mulled wine on Christmas Eve until someone pointed out we are in Tier 4. Morons.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 31/12/2020 13:56

Fuck no
Patronising bollocks
My colleagues and I hated it
And no doubt the loudest clappers are the ones giving us abuse constantly these days and calling us liars when we try and say what the situation is currently
Fucking virtue signalling wankery

Hobbesmanc · 31/12/2020 15:44

Lets just have a little perspective here. Back in the long spring evenings where for a few brief halcyon days the nation seemed to pull together - before the cynicism of Cummings and the long drawn out PPE fiascos and exam result failures.

Captain Tom and the Covid Community volunteers and the clap for the NHS with its rainbow chalked pavements did seem to briefly galvanize and unite us. People were certainly more compliant and more willing to come to the assistance of their neighbours.

Shocking that so many people were shamed on social media- I didnt see anything like that. But for the first few weeks just seeing our neighbours on their drives - that few minutes of camaraderie - did feel special.

Like many things it went on to long and was appropriated by politicians and publicity hounds. So don't bring it back. But treasure the thought behind it at least.

Vindo · 31/12/2020 19:14

No.

It was nice the first time, but as an NHS staff member I'd much rather people supported us by not repeatedly voting Conservative.

LizB62A · 31/12/2020 19:24

But the country just won’t be able to afford that it doesn’t mean we aren’t grateful but if the money isn’t there it isn’t thete

The money is there but giving NHS workers a pay rise isn't a priority for the Government. They'd rather piss away billions on HS2 which the country doesn't need and can't afford.

And, as for clapping for the NHS, I always thought it was pretty insulting having the same people clapping every week who were then posting pics of their non-social distancing parties etc.
I'd bet money that NHS staff would prefer us to stay the fuck at home rather than pointless clapping.

SecretRedhead · 31/12/2020 19:58

Just stay home and help the NHS by voting for a party that won't destroy it at the next opportunity to do so.

THIS

PoppinTheCorn · 31/12/2020 20:00

Nope.

Rosebel · 31/12/2020 22:50

Clapping doesn't help the NHS. I prefer to follow the rules as I think that helps them more.

Crankley · 31/12/2020 22:55

A hideous idea, cringemaking. I didn't do it the first time, no way am I doing it now. You need to find something more interesting to do with your life.

Eaumyword · 31/12/2020 23:12

@Rosebel

Clapping doesn't help the NHS. I prefer to follow the rules as I think that helps them more.
This.
MrsClatterbuck · 31/12/2020 23:59

Was going to post what part of no do you not understand op but think maybe she's got the message No No No No and that's a No.
By the way where is the op guess she's not coming back.

Lozza70 · 01/01/2021 00:08

Good god no! Stay at home, wear a mask, keep distance, wash hands. Much more bloody useful....

gettingolderbutcooler · 01/01/2021 00:16

Like they say- the day the nation claps for MP's instead of giving them a pay rise Cleo for us too 😢

AlrightTreacle · 01/01/2021 01:16

Why are people so down on the clapping?

Well for me...Because it reminds me of a time when I was absolutely terrified of going to work, of getting covid myself, giving it to my boyfriend, my boyfriend dying, dying myself, or one of my friends or colleagues dying. It reminds me of when we didn't have adequate PPE, when we turned up to work and had no idea where or what we would be doing that day. It reminds me of when my colleagues husband was in ICU for five weeks, before finally thankfully waking up and going home. It reminds me of standing outside the hospital to have a minutes silence for another staff member who had died of covid (five in total). One of the silences was at 9am on a Thursday, at 8pm that night I wanted to scream and scream when the clapping started.

So in short, in reminds me of being martyred against my will.

Fuck the clapping, I'm a nurse, not an actress, I don't need claps. We needed PPE.

Mally2020 · 01/01/2021 01:21

it is condescending and disrespectful seeing as most staff missed out on a well deserved pay rise, instead being offered a clap and a medal. NHS staff are not children or dim, many made sacrifices this year, paid for hotels away from family, additional travel and childcare etc. Clapping continues to allow the government to look the other way.

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