Celebrities daughters in their underwear

[StoneofDestiny]

AIBU to think it's sadly pathetic that so many daughters of celebrities think it's a necessary step in life to raise their 'fame' by posing in their underwear - Jonathan Ross's daughter Honey being the latest.

Honey Ross’ parents need to stage an intervention and get her the help that she clearly is crying out for. Although maybe they have tried and she is not interested. Sadly it is a parenting fail ontheir part that she sees trading off her parent’s names as a viable career option. Happens to so many celebrities kids though so they are not alone in this.

But she is - she’s showing she is comfortable with her shape and has overcome a sexual assault.... she is happy with how she looks and showing that.

Case of Emperors new clothes. She looks anything but happy and confident in the two pictures I saw. Prancing around on social media nearly naked is not life affirming. It’s silly nonsense. A pretence. Someone (probably her parents) should have told her not to do it.

I'm torn on this, on one hand nothing wrong with female empowerment but why is that the only version of empowerment we see?

Yeah, weird how few young men need to show everyone their nearly naked bodies to feel positive about themselves too.

Exactly. Men also have pressures on them about their bodies, which should be resisted, and yet them prancing about in skimpy underwear and showing their arses doesn't seem to be a requirement for "body positivity" like it is for women and girls.

Oh and it just so happens that seeing women and girls in their undies is what men generally like. Funny that.

You'd be disappointed that your child is a body positive activist who over came a sexual assault and years of self loathing?

As somebody whose sexual assault made it onto Crimewatch, this is not what overcoming sexual assault looks like. It is an expression of trauma, and ongoing exploitation by the media.

Which she does to reclaim her body... 😅😅

@CeibaTree Honey Ross is an adult- it's not up to her DPs to stage an intervention, sounds as if she gives them enough criticism from trying to encourage healthy eating when she was young.

Thing is she - and the other celebrity offspring in this group - probably imagine they are getting the publicity because of their oh so important message, rather than it being clickbait because she happens to be the off spring of someone famous.

If you stopped looking, posting on social media about it, and firing the flames then it probably wouldn’t happen.

Just shot myself in the foot - should post and engage on these trash posts. New Year resolution is never to do so again.

should not gah!

See I saw a pic of Karren Bradys daughter yesterday and thought this exact thing.
Why??? She could be anything she wants to be with the parents she has and she wants to just strip off and post pics??
I dont get it. Nd i don't believe for a minute that her mother is proud of her for doing this.

@Thecherryontheverytop

See I saw a pic of Karren Bradys daughter yesterday and thought this exact thing. Why??? She could be anything she wants to be with the parents she has and she wants to just strip off and post pics?? I dont get it. Nd i don't believe for a minute that her mother is proud of her for doing this.

Karen Brady’s daughter models. She’s done work for top shop and pretty little things. Her social media posting is about getting attention to get modelling work.

Jonathon Ross’s daughter I think is more about body positivity, about not being ashamed of the body she has been bullied and abused for.

Both women are 23 and not children.

I must admit one of things I've found particularly depressing over lock is the number of women who have felt the need to have stripped off in their bedrooms and taken photos of themselves in their underwear (usually with a silly pouty face) to post on social media.

It always makes me think of the Kenny Everett character where he dressed as a woman then told a long convoluted story with the punchline, 'And all my clothes fell off' accompanied by a look of faux horror.

Yes I do think it's pathetic and sad and far from being anything to do with 'female empowerment'. I just think they must be too stupid to do anything else.

What would be body positive is keeping youy clothes on and addressing some of reasons why young women only feel validated if someone finds them 'sexy', and why we as the female sex are complicit in our own objectification.

@Flapjak

What would be body positive is keeping youy clothes on and addressing some of reasons why young women only feel validated if someone finds them 'sexy', and why we as the female sex are complicit in our own objectification.

Again. Some young women. A minority. The over whelming majority of young woman don’t do this

And a small minority of women habe always done this. From naughty snaps in Victorian times to page three in the eighties. To lads mags in the nineties. Women taking their clothes off for attention is nothing new

It’s just social media means it has a wider audience. It’s become more mainstream. But it’s still the same small minority fo women and always will be,

Do people not value privacy any more?

Or is it a case of there's no such thing as bad publicity if you want to be / are, in the public eye for some reason?

@Wingedharpy

Do people not value privacy any more?

Or is it a case of there's no such thing as bad publicity if you want to be / are, in the public eye for some reason?

I just don’t get comments like this. It’s like the posters think that these people are representative of society. They are not. The vast majority of people value their privacy and are not trying to be famous.

How are folks so confused and think the fact some young women do this, like some young w9man have always done this, is suddenly representative of all young women? It is not

My daughter is the same age. She’s sitting next to me. She’s never got her kit off in her life for social media. Neither have any of her friends or colleagues. Neither have any of my friends children or their friends

It’s like looking at page three in the eighties and declaring all young women appear on page three. They didn’t

But I guess that little fact gets in the way of the faux outrage. It’s much less interesting to say only a small minority of women do this, like the6 always have and the vast majority of women don’t. Like they always haven’t.

I've recently had some 80s + throwbacks suggestions from Spotify.

They've included:

En Vogue
Five Star
TLC
Neneh Cherry
All Saints

I've been showing my 14 yr old DD some of their videos.

All dressed, all sought after, admired, considered sexy / good looking by various audiences.

Why did it change?

Honey Ross definitely seems mentally unwell. She always looks disheveled and sad. I've listened to a bit of her podcast but turned it off as I didnt really feel like she believed what she was saying. Shes one of the pair girls in really think should step away from social media entirely

Let's face it, social media has encouraged showing off whether you are young or old, fat and thin. Holden taking out the bins in a ball gown, Cundy making a bikini out of paper face masks (yes, that happened), Honey Ross posing in a g-string, Liz Hurley flashing cleavage at every opportunity, Christine McGuiness doing silly dances in skimpy shorts on Tik Tok. Lockdown (the first one) was disgusting for this. They couldn't stand the lack of exposure on tv etc so embraced TikTok etc to get That exposure. The vanity is actually bilious inducing. Men don't do this (occasionally you get the odd vain Love Island or Mark Wright doing it) but in the main men feel empowered enough to keep their kit on. It's nothing to do with reclaiming their bodies, in the main it is vanity pure and simple.

It is their choice, but their choice to parade their vanity like this has repercussions for all women. Women are seen as bits of meat. Women have the freedom to do what they want but it seems what they want is to be seen half naked for the validation. It's a regression for sure. It feels like we are back in the 70s. Depressing enough to see young women doing it, but seeing middled aged women doing it is another level, still wanting to be judged as still in the game.

It is their choice, but their choice to parade their vanity like this has repercussions for all women

I agree with you in general, but in Honey Ross’s case it seem more like masochistically holding yourself up for ridicule and abuse. As I said earlier, it is not a picture of somebody overcoming sexual trauma, so much as somebody still punishing themselves for it. Newspapers should not be egging her on for clicks.

Honey is part of feminist activist collective The Pink Protest, which is also run by Scarlett Curtis, daughter of screenwriter Richard Curtis, Grace Campbell, daughter of Alastair Campbell, and Alice Skinner, author of The Revolution Handbook.

Maybe look at why she’s ‘posing in her underwear’ before calling her pathetic

@MorganKitten if we’re doing the staunch defence of their feminist position thing, that might be better expressed as “Scarlett Curtis, daughter of Emma Freud & Grace Campbell, daughter of Fiona Millar” don’t you think? Both of their mothers are famous in their own right.

It seems to be those with the least discernible talent who are constantly putting their photos on social media to be noticed, famous for sod all else.The one who dismays me the most is Miley Cyrus, she is an absolutely outstanding singer , so talented, but I cringe when I see her writhing around, overtly sexual, with her tongue out, I just don't get it, I must be getting old !

@PenguinIce

Body Positive Activist??? Ffs, not only have we now got women stripping naked online, we now have them believing they are doing it for some greater good???

This!!!

On another note some of the comments below Honey's pic were actually of the wanking emoji.

Like a PP said, she felt embarrassed about putting her naked pics out there! Do these young girls not realise their underwear pics, go straight in the Wank Bank???

She is a body positive activist
Maybe look at why she’s ‘posing in her underwear’ before calling her pathetic

It's all nonsense. Women don't need to succeed or prove anything by stripping off. The majority of women remain fully dressed to succeed in something useful. Who is telling women it's essential to strip off for anybody to look at?

We can succeed in whatever we do, or try to do, without stripping off. It's the most cock eyed version of female liberation we've ever had.

I once saw some very revealing posts of Michael Goves daughter as shown to me by my DD on Instagram - couldn’t believe it.