To feel relieved that it’s not a no-deal outcome!

[Xnon]

Whether you’re Remain or Leave the fact is that Brexit is going ahead. I was genuinely scared of a no-deal outcome especially after the weird 2020 we have had.

I don’t know the full details of the deal but I’m just glad that there is a deal rather than no-deal at all. Anyone else feel the same?

Brexit: Boris Johnson hails free trade deal with EU

At least that’s something. I was worried about trading under WTO rules.

Thoughts?

@TerryHearn

We in the UK need to work together with the EU now, only our enemies benefit from division in europe.
So yes, i hope we will be able to share each others criminal DB's but we can't right now, the EU has rules on what 3rd countries can see and Johnson never saw it as a priority to negotiate.

We are weaker now we have lost this access, this is what various police forces have said and they should be listened too.

Can you explain to me all of your life decisions for the next 10 years?

A young person applying to start studying medicine in 2021 could pretty much tell you major ones. Many others could certainly hazard a guess at where they would like to be in 5 years time. Ask my 97 year old mother this..... and it's a rather silly question.

My life decisions in the next ten years? I'll be nearer retirement but my daughter will be becoming an adult and will have all the career options still open to her (despite us not having much money) that you numpties tried to take off her because she still has EU citizenship.

I am not talking about life decisions.

More about what people would like to see happening in the UK to ensure we can level up.

I’d be interested to see a comparisons between the deal May was trying to get us and the deal Boris actually got.

They are broadly similar. With one major difference. We’ve sold NI down the river to keep the border open. Rather than May’s backstop, there is now a border in the Irish Sea. Scots can’t sell certain agricultural products to NI anymore because they aren’t allowed by the EU. Luckily for Boris, he doesn’t need the DUP support like May did so he can sell them out because who really cares about NI anyway?

I am worried about NI. Middle son is there currently. Have been visiting regularly since 1992. Johnson & his cronies couldn’t give 2 hoots about Northern Ireland.

I actually think this has done N Ireland a favour. I strongly suspect we’ll see a united Ireland in my life time. The generations so hellbent on it being part of the UK are fading away. That will then give Scotland the impetus to go. History won’t treat Johnson kindly.

Xnon

Whether you’re Remain or Leave the fact is that Brexit is going ahead.
It already went ahead. We exited the EU 11 months ago on 31st January.

Can you explain to me all of your life decisions for the next 10 years?

Now, they will mostly be directed towards being able to get citizenship of some other country.

Yes I think there will be a united Ireland but anyone who thinks that will be achieved without violence hasn’t spent much time there. Unionists will not go quietly.

The Good Friday Agreement was a huge achievement - but EU membership made it much easier to broker.

Leave it to those that have confidence in Britain’s abilities and we’ll go far.
Mindless optimism
and jingoistic rose tinted glasses
will not work in the real world.

The UK is a declining power.

It can either decline gracefully and work on being key at soft power and intermediary services
due to being the home of the language of business

Or it can keep shouting at the fence that it used to own the house

The UK has the capacity to be a world leader through collaboration and coordination
NOT
by going it alone

A lot of bitterness here. More allegiance to other nations in the EU than your own (wanting to take citizenship elsewhere). A strange bunch. You actually aren’t representative of people who voted Brexit so no chance you will ever understand it. According to you people are misguided, misinformed, racists, liars etc. Your dismissive manner actually allowed Brexit. It really did. If more people had done more to understand valid concerns of the UK populace then we would still be in the EU with no prospect of leaving. Subtle changes may have occurred to free movement and our commitments to political union. It would have taken the sting out of the argument for Brexit. But you wouldn’t listen. So you got Brexit. Only have yourselves to blame.

There are a lot of moribund economies in the EU which are having to be bailed out - Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal- in permanent recession not having recovered from 2008, let alone the hit from Covid. Plus the two rogue states Poland and Hungary. I'd prefer to be out frankly.

Oh Terry you are funny.

Obviously not serious because you throw in all these untrue lines with the intention of causing argument.

I chose to become British - and paid a LOT of money for the privilege

I am still hopeful that the UK will learn to find its place in the world that we now live in
making best use of its skills and resources and history.

Brexit is a hiccup.
It will pass.

Just to note, the guys in Auf Wiedersehn Pet didn't need visas because UK citizens had had the right to work in Germany since 1973.

The Beatles, not having the same rights, got deported when they fell out with their employer and he snitched on them to the police.

@PigletJohn

Oh Terry you are funny.

Obviously not serious because you throw in all these untrue lines with the intention of causing argument.

Yes. You don’t understand. You keep proving it every time you open your mouth to comment.

@Livinginthecity

There are a lot of moribund economies in the EU which are having to be bailed out - Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal- in permanent recession not having recovered from 2008, let alone the hit from Covid. Plus the two rogue states Poland and Hungary. I'd prefer to be out frankly.

We have someone else talking sense.

Stop, stop, my sides are splitting.

Johnson & his cronies couldn’t give 2 hoots about Northern Ireland.

I think that is broadly an English opinion generally. Unless you have family there, it’s commonly seen as a bit of a pain in the bum that you can’t even drive to. How many non-NI Brits have even been there? 5%? If that.

@TerryHearn

You won.
Get over it,

You don't know what you want from winning for the people who voted to Leave except to Leave.

But you won.

Get over it.

Move on.

It's like "Look at me, I'm divorced, I can do whatever I want to now".

I think that the devil is in the detail of this agreement though - and it seems that the ERG aren't over happy according to that most Brexit of papers, the Daily Express.

Still - they got 1 day to vote on it.

Which is kind of ironic if you have been following the Brexit drama.

Subtle changes may have occurred to free movement and our commitments to political union.

Hohoho.

Cameron got the UK an opt out on “ever closer union of the people’s of Europe”.

Which is what the EU treaties say - never any mention of “political union”.

You’re really not much of a politics student if you can’t get your head round that.

Apparently there's OUTRAGE that UK farmers face MORE red tape than New Zealand farmers when it comes to selling lamb to the EU

And a BOMBSHELL that EU judges orders will be ENFORCEABLE in the UK

And UK fishermen tear APART the deal. COMPLETE DISASTER

www.express.co.uk/

Oh yes, fish - looking like Johnson has got an extra 2.32% of fish quota for UK fisherman.

Despite all his promises.

Oops.