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to think 'Fuck em, if you want No Deal Brexit so hard, then enjoy it' and fuck you if it turns out shit for you

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chomalungma · 11/12/2020 19:04

I am past caring now.
I feel for people who didn't want Brexit. Who know all the implications and can see the issues that are coming.

But if you want No Deal Brexit and it fucks you up, tough shit.

You wanted it. You get it. You own it.

And pardon me if I don't give a shit anymore about you.

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TheWordWomanIsTaken · 13/12/2020 15:57

@Applesonthelawn

We led the way on workers' rights, our environmental protections are higher than EU's. Utter scaremongering shite.
Oh ok. So why did Johnson take working rights, environmental standards and consumer protections out of the Withdrawal Agreement which was legally binding and put them into the Political Statement which isn't legally binding? If our standards are higher, and the tories want to maintain that, why remove them from the withdrawal agreement and why is Johnson arguing about them now? Because we are unable to compete with India or China et al without de-regulating our country and eating away at our protections. You've been had.
Byllis · 13/12/2020 15:58

I haven't wished ill on anyone in this thread. However, I may make an exception for posters who crow about how they voted to remove EU citizenship from the rest of us, while securing it for their families - and then lecture us about being negative.

I don't doubt there are people in this position, and if they have any decency at all they'll keep their heads down.

Janegrey333 · 13/12/2020 16:00

@Byllis

I haven't wished ill on anyone in this thread. However, I may make an exception for posters who crow about how they voted to remove EU citizenship from the rest of us, while securing it for their families - and then lecture us about being negative.

I don't doubt there are people in this position, and if they have any decency at all they'll keep their heads down.

...their heads down in shame. People like that are beyond contempt.
Janegrey333 · 13/12/2020 16:03

@FastMovingLuxuryGoods

I haven't stooped to their venomous level as I truly believe that putting out negative thoughts and energy brings it back tenfold.

Sanctimonious and a hypocrite. You're a gem, aren't you?

She is someone who believes in “Karma” so it should be stalking her at this very moment.
ZanyPam · 13/12/2020 16:07

@Workerbee80

You are piece of work. People are not going to "get over it". You gleefully gloat that as a leave voter you secured EU passports for your family when others are having their lives ripped apart after this referendum. I assumed you were a troll at first, but apparently not.

You truly are disgraceful and I hope this comes to bite you in the future.

Workerbee80 · 13/12/2020 16:10

@Byllis

I haven't wished ill on anyone in this thread. However, I may make an exception for posters who crow about how they voted to remove EU citizenship from the rest of us, while securing it for their families - and then lecture us about being negative.

I don't doubt there are people in this position, and if they have any decency at all they'll keep their heads down.

I didn't secure it, as I stated previously I have always had dual citizenship and would have voted leave regardless.
veeeeh · 13/12/2020 16:12

I may be naive, but I think "workerbee" might have been a tad satirical, and was opening the debate about those who ACTUALLY voted to leave but ensured their escape hatches just the same. Farage children and maybe even he himself have German passports.

I expect many Leave voters have obtained EU passports but kept quiet about it. THAT is the issue.

Coconut2010 · 13/12/2020 16:16

YANBU and tbh I am feeling the same as you do.
We are from the EU (the villains...) but we leave in the UK with EU and British passports. We have good jobs in the financial industry that are not impacted by Brexit, our children can study and work in the UK or in the EU thanks to their dual nationality so we are laughing... If this country becomes too much of a mess we can go back to our European country tomorrow (along with the huge taxes we pay despite not using NHS or state schools). Meanwhile British friends and colleagues who voted for Brexit (and many of whom own houses in the EU) are much more quiet about it now clearly looking quite worried about the reduced flexibility of movement and opportunities for their children this is likely to mean (these people don’t really care about increased cost of living).

ZanyPam · 13/12/2020 16:18

@veeeeh

I may be naive, but I think "workerbee" might have been a tad satirical, and was opening the debate about those who ACTUALLY voted to leave but ensured their escape hatches just the same. Farage children and maybe even he himself have German passports.

I expect many Leave voters have obtained EU passports but kept quiet about it. THAT is the issue.

Oh no doubt. I know a few other people who did the same. @Workerbee80 claims she didn't have a choice over her dual nationality, fair enough and she can vote how she likes.

But to go on to secure that for her offspring so they can take advantage of "FOM - the only good thing about the EU (according to her)" is just taking the piss.

FastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/12/2020 16:18

You came onto the thread, workerbee, smirking about how you were going to be fine as you will retain your EU passport, and therefore your rights to FOM.

And then you have the utter gall to complain when posters whose same rights you voted to remove react badly.

I also assumed you were a troll at first. I find it hard to believe that anyone could genuinely be so utterly deficient in self-awareness as you appear to be. But it appears you really are that lacking.

KinseyWinsey · 13/12/2020 16:22

@Workerbee80 you wished ill on us by voting to remove our FoM.

People don't like it. Especially since you kept yours.

What's the problem? Aren't people allowed to be upset?

Or have you decreed it's not allowed?

SabrinaThwaite · 13/12/2020 16:30

@Workerbee80

I voted leave then got my Irish passport sorted for myself and family, so I'll be absolutely fine OP.

And then:

I didn't secure it, as I stated previously I have always had dual citizenship and would have voted leave regardless

So you hadn’t actually claimed your Irish nationality until after you voted.

Nice.

KinseyWinsey · 13/12/2020 16:30

She/he just doesn't get the issue here.

Moral vacuum.

raskolnikova · 13/12/2020 16:31

@Byllis

I haven't wished ill on anyone in this thread. However, I may make an exception for posters who crow about how they voted to remove EU citizenship from the rest of us, while securing it for their families - and then lecture us about being negative.

I don't doubt there are people in this position, and if they have any decency at all they'll keep their heads down.

I disagree, if they have any decency they should let people know exactly what they did. I wouldn't want anything to do with such people in real life, so I'd prefer it if they were upfront about it so I could stay away from them.
SabrinaThwaite · 13/12/2020 16:32

Strange that your Irishness wasn’t important enough to you until after the Referendum.
Almost like it was only worth claiming after certain rights had been stripped away UK nationals.

Workerbee80 · 13/12/2020 16:34

[quote SabrinaThwaite]@Workerbee80

I voted leave then got my Irish passport sorted for myself and family, so I'll be absolutely fine OP.

And then:

I didn't secure it, as I stated previously I have always had dual citizenship and would have voted leave regardless

So you hadn’t actually claimed your Irish nationality until after you voted.

Nice.[/quote]
I didn't need to claim Irish citizenship, I got it automatically. Gosh, how many times do I need to say it?

SabrinaThwaite · 13/12/2020 16:43

You had get of your arse and apply for an Irish passport - funny how you suddenly felt the need to do that after the Referendum.

Almost like your UK passport was no longer enough for some reason.

FastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/12/2020 16:44

'I voted leave then got my Irish passport sorted for myself and family,'

So you were just trolling with this statement then?

SabrinaThwaite · 13/12/2020 16:45

Absolutely trolling.

ZaraW · 13/12/2020 16:45

I didn't need to claim Irish citizenship, I got it automatically. Gosh, how many times do I need to say it?

I'm sure many people despise you when you tell them what you did or is just on here you wind people up?

Workerbee80 · 13/12/2020 16:52

I think the problem is that a lot of people don't understand how Irish citizenship works and to be honest I'm tired trying to explain.

Anyway, not talked about tomatoes for a while....

FastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/12/2020 17:02

No, that's not 'the problem'.

The problem is that you made damn sure you and your family could retain beneficial aspects of EU membership - which you clearly value - whilst gloating that you'd voted to remove them from other people who also value them.

And then you whine that people are being unpleasant to you about it and try to backpedal and suggest that we 'don't understand'.

At least have the decency to acknowledge why posters might have had such a negative reaction to you.

SabrinaThwaite · 13/12/2020 17:03

No, quite understand how Irish citizenship works thank you. Whether it’s automatic or whether you claim it depends on where and when you were born.

TheSunIsStillShining · 13/12/2020 17:04

@Workerbee80

I think the problem is that a lot of people don't understand how Irish citizenship works and to be honest I'm tired trying to explain.

Anyway, not talked about tomatoes for a while....

Let me help you out, clearly you have challenges when it comes to reading/thinking....

Everyone is saying Irish PASSPORT.
nobody is talking about your bloody irish citizenship. That is something you are born into. BUT going out and applying for a PASSPORT -as many pointed out- is more than vile.

And I agree that there is no hell deep enough for you and your kind.

goldenharvest · 13/12/2020 17:17

Think it works both ways. I've got an Irish passport anyway