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Original poster

to think 'Fuck em, if you want No Deal Brexit so hard, then enjoy it' and fuck you if it turns out shit for you

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chomalungma · 11/12/2020 19:04

I am past caring now.
I feel for people who didn't want Brexit. Who know all the implications and can see the issues that are coming.

But if you want No Deal Brexit and it fucks you up, tough shit.

You wanted it. You get it. You own it.

And pardon me if I don't give a shit anymore about you.

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KenDodd · 13/12/2020 14:17

Worse @Workerbee80 knowingly voted to put at risk a peace treaty that has saved the lives of 2,000 people (based on death rates before the GFA) in the same country she then took out a passport from so she could personally enjoy the advantages that passport gave her.

ZaraW · 13/12/2020 14:24

@Workerbee80

You are a tosser and I'm being polite.

SunscreenCentral · 13/12/2020 14:25

Workerbee80
I voted leave then got my Irish passport sorted for myself and family, so I'll be absolutely fine

workerbee80 we don’t need the likes of you in Ireland. I sincerely hope that you stay on whatever miserable patch of ground you’ve inflicted yourself upon.

Appalling, selfish, cowardly behaviour. And another great win for Leaver PR. Envy (definitely not envy)

KinseyWinsey · 13/12/2020 14:25

@GetOffYourHighHorse teeth gnashing and wailing? 😂

Mere facts.

Xnon · 13/12/2020 14:25

@Workerbee80

So, do you stand by your actions?

Workerbee80 · 13/12/2020 14:26

@KenDodd

Worse *@Workerbee80* knowingly voted to put at risk a peace treaty that has saved the lives of 2,000 people (based on death rates before the GFA) in the same country she then took out a passport from so she could personally enjoy the advantages that passport gave her.
Stop with the hysterical scaremongering and accept democracy.
KinseyWinsey · 13/12/2020 14:28

Remember folks, if you don't keep positive and keep imagining those sunlight uplands then it's all your fault if Brexshit doesn't work out.

We are where we are and you've just got to keep the faith. That's all we need.

Pesky economics and WTO trade regs will wilt in the face of British mettle and resilience.

(When will people stop talking utter bollocks?)

midgebabe · 13/12/2020 14:29

Democracy? I believe that also gave us the nazis

KinseyWinsey · 13/12/2020 14:31

@Workerbee80 it is you who haven't accepted democracy.

You see, you voted to leave the EU. It worked. And yet, here you are, wanting still to be part of the EU. How very strange.

How does that square with your personal democratic choices?

You still choose to leech off the EU and the marvellous FoM benefit.

But then in the minds of Leavers nothing is logical.

Nothing hysterical about it. I wish it were.

Xnon · 13/12/2020 14:33

@Workerbee80

How about you accept that you need to educate yourself a bit more on the matter of democracy?

How Dictators Come To Power In A Democracy

Viewing the advantages and disadvantages of modern democratic political system from the political philosophy system of Confucianism in China

To make but a few resources. More importantly Britain isn’t a total democracy (we still have a monarchy and unelected Head of State run through a family dynasty).

KarmaStar · 13/12/2020 14:42

Whatever anyone voted I think the spite and vitriolic posts on this thread are really sad.
That people are displaying hatred for other human beings and wanting them to suffer because they cast a vote which may or may not bring short or long term hardship is so negative and bringing down any positive energy.
🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈

Janegrey333 · 13/12/2020 14:43

@TheSunIsStillShining

btw, I love the "buy local" argument in London. I buy totally local: greengrocer 2 mins away, butcher 5 mins. Many are so proud of similar achievements. But they forget to think one step ahead: what they are buying comes from....? :)
Precisely. They’ll find out soon enough.
Janegrey333 · 13/12/2020 14:45

@Workerbee80

You are the worst type of all. Odious attitude.

DioneTheDiabolist · 13/12/2020 14:52

yes I do believe Egypt has a plentiful supply of water.
You believe wrong @GetOffYourHighHorse.Xmas Hmm
www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/11/water-crisis-builds-in-egypt-as-dam-talks-falter-temperatures-rise/

Eleganz · 13/12/2020 14:56

Tomatoes grow very successfully in polytunnels in the UK without any heating.

Not commercially. It is all done in climate controlled glass houses using either gas or biomass systems. Both are relatively expensive. There is the potential to use shallow geothermal to reduce cost and carbon intensity. Not yet ready to roll that out yet.

Of course, expanding the UK's glasshouse production would require billions in investment and time to develop proper sites. That isn't going to be in place on 1 Jan 2021 regardless of how feasible it is.

Eleganz · 13/12/2020 14:59

yes I do believe Egypt has a plentiful supply of water.
You believe wrong @GetOffYourHighHorse.fhmm
www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/11/water-crisis-builds-in-egypt-as-dam-talks-falter-temperatures-rise/

And yet they still continue to talk with the air of authority about the subject of international trade as if anyone who thinks that Egypt, a country defined by the thin strip of fertile land amongst the desert, has huge amounts of water should be taken remotely seriously on anything they have to say about the matter. The Dunning Kruger effect writ large.

Workerbee80 · 13/12/2020 15:09

@KarmaStar

Whatever anyone voted I think the spite and vitriolic posts on this thread are really sad. That people are displaying hatred for other human beings and wanting them to suffer because they cast a vote which may or may not bring short or long term hardship is so negative and bringing down any positive energy. 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
Completely agree with this, some of the people on here are practically choking on their own bile. I haven't stooped to their venomous level as I truly believe that putting out negative thoughts and energy brings it back tenfold. Why not accept what the majority voted without wishing ill on them?
FastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/12/2020 15:12

For freedom of movement for myself and children. Only benefit of being in the EU. If the OP wants to be arsey and wish ill on millions of people for how they voted then I'm perfectly entitled to be arsey back

Vote to remove my rights and those of my children, knowing full well that you'll get to keep yours?

As a PP said, there's no hell hot enough for some people.

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chomalungma · 13/12/2020 15:12

Why not accept what the majority voted without wishing ill on them

Are people wishing ill on them?

Or just saying that if the thing that they voted for causes them issues, then tough shit as they should have known that when the vote was talked about?

A turkey that voted for Christmas gets fuck all sympathy when it finds itself in an oven, stuffed and about to be divided up and eaten by the people who encouraged it to vote for Christmas.

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FastMovingLuxuryGoods · 13/12/2020 15:14

I haven't stooped to their venomous level as I truly believe that putting out negative thoughts and energy brings it back tenfold.

Sanctimonious and a hypocrite. You're a gem, aren't you?

midgebabe · 13/12/2020 15:14

Because they were wrong I believe and They have harmed the future prospects of my family.

They have shown that they would rather individualism than society, so if them are the rules, I will play by them . Which mean I don't need to get behind them, I don't need to wish them well. I just need to look out for myself

Flatpackback · 13/12/2020 15:16

I wish people would stop blaming the elderly for this, they are the generation that voted us in originally

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chomalungma · 13/12/2020 15:16

They have shown that they would rather individualism than society, so if them are the rules, I will play by them . Which mean I don't need to get behind them, I don't need to wish them well. I just need to look out for myself

Indeed. If individualism is the way to go, then let's go for it and see how that works out for people who are left behind.

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TheWordWomanIsTaken · 13/12/2020 15:39

[quote Hayeahnobut]@Livelovebehappy There are people in the UK already starving. How do you think they're going to cope when prices increase? That increase will mean less people donating to food banks, as they struggle to feed their own families.

You're beyond ignorant to suggest people aren't going to starve, when ignoring the state the country is already in.[/quote]
Indeed, and add in a reduction in working rights, a lot of people are going to be in a very very difficult position.
But I agree with the OP, I have no sympathy whatsoever with those who voted for it and are going to be worse off. None. That they thought the likes of Rees Mogg and Farage were on their side is mind boggling.
When they issue threats of never voting again if Brexit is not followed through and democracy is thwarted seems like a good thing to me.

Peregrina · 13/12/2020 15:43

I wish people would stop blaming the elderly for this, they are the generation that voted us in originally

Not entirely although I am one who voted in 1975. It was a confirmatory vote after being in for two years.

Secondly, a good many people of the people voting in 1975 will have been alive during the war, probably fought, some will have seen the horrors of Belsen first hand and realised that they had to do better in future. No one now under 93 would have been old enough to fight during the war. A substantial majority of that older generation are now long dead. It is interesting that MIL, now 97, who was old enough to do war work, voted Remain.