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To ask how my “d” h spent £400 in a strip club

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porcelaine · 07/12/2020 01:34

Posting for traffic. Please know that I am obviously naive as I have no idea what really happens in strip clubs and I don’t know what they cost, but H has just told me that his night out ended in a strip club in zone 1 and when I checked the balance there were 2 atm withdrawals for £200 apiece. So he’s spent £400 (we do not have) in a fucking strip club.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what this might buy as he claims it was just ladies dancing on tables in their lingerie which sounds pretty fucking suspect to me. £400.

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chestnutmares · 09/12/2020 20:53

It's a fully nude club. Stage dances are nude which means table dances will also be nude. No touching will be allowed though. He probably bought a few for his mates as well as himself, guys like to have a few drinks and look flash by buying them for their pals. I wish men would just be honest with their partners, the being lied to and treated like an idiot is worse than the actual deed.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 09/12/2020 20:53

I think he's lying.

The club's website says it's closed.
The club's website says it's free entry.
The club's website says it closes at 12 (in non-COVID times when it's open)
He's deleted his texts from that night

He's spent £400 in a free entry venue that IS CLOSED?

RandomUser18282 · 09/12/2020 20:56

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MorganKitten · 09/12/2020 20:58

Former dancer, he wasn’t getting much for the £400

TinySongstress · 09/12/2020 21:16

He won't be so incredulous when you're asking him how you've just tested positive for chlamydia.

MorganKitten · 09/12/2020 21:31

Also if it’s The Griffin I know of they don’t do Lap Dances

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/12/2020 21:34

@MorganKitten

Also if it’s The Griffin I know of they don’t do Lap Dances
You said upthread he wouldn't get much for £400 but in The Griffin you absolutely would - the women walk around the punters with a pint glass to get &1 from each one before the main stage dancing and then private dances are max £25... not the same in most places but that one is staggeringly cheap and particularly seedy. To spend £200+ in there would be very difficult. Spending similar amounts on an escort or additional 'favours' would explain it though.
Newmumatlast · 09/12/2020 21:35

OP I honestly don't know why you're still debating this. You know that you know really. I totally understand part of the difficulty is in accepting this has happened to you and breaking the cycle of emotional abuse. I really recommend you get some support. Charities like the national Centre for domestic violence are well worth a call. Youre clearly so used to debating his behaviour until you convince yourself you can move past it that you're doing it again now even though plenty of people have made the situation clear and you have yourself in what you've said. You need support x

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/12/2020 21:36

To get £1 from each one that was meant to say

Woahisme · 09/12/2020 21:39

I've just read the (grim) reviews for this place. The dancers are all fully nude. The girls take a quid from each punter then do a dance on a stage, they all end up nude. The private dances are some room round the back and are £20.

It is a 'normal' pub with no entry fee. It just so happens to have strippers, none of which keep their underwear on according to google reviews.

I'm sorry op, your Dh is a lying scum bag.

Arthersleep · 09/12/2020 22:00

Well, according to their website, The Griffin describes itself as a strip club although is primarily a pole dancing joint. It also says that the pole dancers are nude. Other reviews of the place say that the dancers go around collecting pound coins in a mug before they will go on stage. One performs every ten minutes. So I suppose that it could start to add up. The site also says that it's open until 1am although from 7/12 has been closed (presumably due to moving into tier 3). Presumably they have to abide by social distancing rules. I think that, on balance, he's probably telling the truth re his reasons for going there and that he was also very drunk etc. However, the website does contradict his version re nudity. That's not to say that he's definitely lying, but it is certainly a big red flag.

MorganKitten · 09/12/2020 22:07

@youvegottenminuteslynn
A) yes in a decent club you wouldn’t get much for it, trust me I made a lot of money a night and invested it well
B) I didn’t see it was the Griffin until later, and I said if it was the one I know of they don’t do lap dances, I didn’t know the pint glass thing still happened in strip clubs. Also the women lose out as the men don’t have to pay the girls in pint glass bars.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/12/2020 22:11

[quote MorganKitten]@youvegottenminuteslynn
A) yes in a decent club you wouldn’t get much for it, trust me I made a lot of money a night and invested it well
B) I didn’t see it was the Griffin until later, and I said if it was the one I know of they don’t do lap dances, I didn’t know the pint glass thing still happened in strip clubs. Also the women lose out as the men don’t have to pay the girls in pint glass bars.[/quote]
Completely agree - sorry I thought you meant that amount of money W ouldn't get someone far in the griffin. Awful isn't it, making them go round with a pint glass then be less likely to make anything else as the punters somewhere like that want to see as much as possible for as little as possible. Horrible.

Furries · 09/12/2020 22:44

@porcelaine - have just read through most of this.

All of his comments/changes to story/spiralling out of control/suicide bollocks is bad enough.

But for him to top it off by saying he’s donated £400 to a refuge should be the final big flashlight to you (actually more of a flipping atomic bomb flash). If he wasn’t “showing his true self” before, then that absolutely shows what a despicable excuse for a human being he is.

I hate how easily some on MN throw around the “LTB” phrase. But, in this case, I honestly think you need to look long and hard at want you want for your children and you (and YOU are just as important, never underestimate how much better it is for kids to have a single, but strong/confident/happy mum). You are NOT past your best/prime. He may have taken a few years from you - but you have plenty more stretching out in front of you - you deserve to have those years feeling good about the life that you and your kids have. That may be on your own, it may be with someone new who deserves you. But they shouldn’t be wasted on this complete and utter prick - he doesn’t deserve the emotional angst you are feeling right now, he is not worthy of that kind of emotion.

Some people end up with amazing partners - won’t lie, I envy them sometimes. Some, like me, don’t find “the one” but end up with happy lives with great friends/family/kids/pets (delete where applicable). Others end up with horrendous partners who not only impact on their own life/self worth, but will have lasting consequences on their children - aim for options one or two, don’t settle for your current situation. You REALLY are worth more.

earsup · 09/12/2020 22:52

I havent read the whole thread...i knew some one who worked in one of these places...she said no nudity was allowed..or licence would be revoked...private dances also not naked....unless he went to some dodgey place around brewer st soho....lots of doorway clubs there.

porcelaine · 09/12/2020 23:05

thanks Furries, and everyone. I feel like he has ruined Christmas. he's ruined what I know. I have to find some strength somewhere and I dont feel like I have it, so I'm just processing, keeping to myself and trying to get through the working week. I have plans this weekend out of the house with dc so I am just taking space. I've done the sums and the money will just about be ok on my own, though it scares me. I dont know how I would tell dc. I was just in the shower and felt completely devastated all of a sudden, this is our home and our life. he has major fucking flaws but he's my H. I know its sunk costs but I've invested so much of myself in this.

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Sandals19 · 09/12/2020 23:14

So he's shown you he has 180 out of the 400 he withdrew (is that right) so he got rid of 220. He "lost" about 100 of that on the way home. So he spent about 120 in the Griffin on some rounds of spirits, two private dances for himself (probably 40 quid) and one each for his mates. How many mates were there?
If there were two mates, that'd be 80, with some rounds of drinks it could reach 120.

Three queries though;

Losing about 100 quid on the way home is rather unfortunate, and rather unlikely.

If he only spent 120 in there, how come he felt the need to go to the cash point twice, taking out 200 each time.

How do you know for sure the 180 (?) he showed you in his wallet is from the original 400 for sure. He seems to be v happy dipping into your joint savings.

On the main topic; he's now taken 800 quid out of your joint savings - which was supposed to be for a house deposit for your family (and he's so down in the mouth about not having bought a house, right - he had to compensate by flashing the cash and buying his mates drinks and private strips Hmm) .... without your permission, or even consulting you.

He's also blatantly lying about the lack of nudity in the private dances (club and reviews say even public/stage dances are nude, and private dances never feature less nudity than stage dances), through his teeth, in the most ridiculous, immature, irritating manner. As I said it's like he's drawn his line in the sand and had to stick to it, even as every bit of evidence a d common sense points to it not being true.

He just comes across as such a general all round asshole, twat etc; and so selfish and irresponsible.

His mates sound like c*nts too. Their poor partners.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/12/2020 23:15

@porcelaine

thanks Furries, and everyone. I feel like he has ruined Christmas. he's ruined what I know. I have to find some strength somewhere and I dont feel like I have it, so I'm just processing, keeping to myself and trying to get through the working week. I have plans this weekend out of the house with dc so I am just taking space. I've done the sums and the money will just about be ok on my own, though it scares me. I dont know how I would tell dc. I was just in the shower and felt completely devastated all of a sudden, this is our home and our life. he has major fucking flaws but he's my H. I know its sunk costs but I've invested so much of myself in this.
Oh my love I'm so sorry, I've had one of those shower gutpunches too and it's a horrible feeling.

The main thing is, you know who he is. That's why you decided to leave before - and you tried to give it another go, you did your bit but he let you down. So you know you tried your best and couldn't have done more.

My advice would be to make the plan. You don't have to know for sure you'll go through with it, but you need a plan. Maybe you won't leave until new year, or spring, or summer BUT in my experience, making the plan without committing to a set date to leave means that actually the prospect of leaving becomes less scary and you can treat it more objectively with less panic - and be more likely to follow through when the time is right.

That was a bit garbled but basically, make your plan (housing, money, childcare) yourself and then if / when you feel ready, make it happen. The more planning you do the more capable you'll feel to make the break.

porcelaine · 09/12/2020 23:17

I might add, Sandals, that one of the friends who was with him, is staying with his fiancé's elderly grandmother before they move into the house they have bought, so he has put the poor lady at massive risk of covid -- my mind literally fucking boggles. I never liked the other friend he was with, but how c*nty can people be?

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Sandals19 · 09/12/2020 23:18

I havent read the whole thread...i knew some one who worked in one of these places...she said no nudity was allowed..or licence would be revoked...private dances also not naked....unless he went to some dodgey place around brewer st soho....lots of doorway clubs there.

I've read reviews of these clubs; men are quite specific about the levels of nudity, they have no reason to lie, they're punters advising other punters. There's nudity, there are simulated sex acts, one guy was taking about paying for a "lesbian" private dance/show and how one girl "definitely got a few licks on target" ... They all vary, and what is supposed to happen is not be necessarily what happens. I know men who've had fully nude private dances in cities far more rural.than London. I know a girl who went to string fellows and said the dances were fully nude.

Furries · 09/12/2020 23:29

@porcelaine - can’t begin to imagine what a mindfuck this must be for you. And it’s hard when you’re reading lots of opinions on here, can just scramble your brain.

The lead-up to Christmas will likely be a bit hectic and stressful. I’d prioritise trying to get a small slot each day to just focus on you (sounds banal, but read a bit of a book you love, 10 minute walk if it’s bright and crisp, face mask, stodgy sandwich, glass of wine) - anything that is just for you. Also, when you are doubting yourself/beating yourself up and your internal voice puts you dow then - just think of how you would speak to a dear friend who was telling you the same worries - you wouldn’t be cruel/say those negative things about her. So be just as kind to yourself.

This probably ISN’T the best few weeks to be acting on what to do. Lead up to Christmas is hard enough as it is. Instead, try to take strength from the knowledge that you can aim to progress through 2021 on the terms that make you comfortable/happy. That will be your best Christmas present to yourself.

Sandals19 · 09/12/2020 23:29

@porcelaine

I might add, Sandals, that one of the friends who was with him, is staying with his fiancé's elderly grandmother before they move into the house they have bought, so he has put the poor lady at massive risk of covid -- my mind literally fucking boggles. I never liked the other friend he was with, but how c*nty can people be?
The type of men who go into sex industry clubs (even if it's the "mild" end of the sex industry .. and that's debateable at times) at all, let alone when they have partners are generally all round c*nts in my opinion and experience. They don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves; their egos, their dicks, their thrills. Low integrity, irresponsible, selfish (and usually total fkg hypocrites too).

This man is leading you a stressful, miserable life by the sounds of it op, do t fall into the sunken costs fallacy .. his character means there's likely to be more and you'll wish you didn't hand around for it. The pain & devastation you're in in that shower was caused by one person and one only; him.

There still a big question mark over 100 plus quid of that money.

And he's blatantly lying about stuff through his teeth.

Take your time and plan your exit at your convenience.
Don't let him get his hands on one penny of your money.

prawntoastie · 09/12/2020 23:33

The Griffin is fully nude on stage. The private dances are also fully nude.
No such thing as a pole dancing clothed club

I know the Griffin.

prawntoastie · 09/12/2020 23:34

I havent read the whole thread...i knew some one who worked in one of these places...she said no nudity was allowed..or licence would be revoked...private dances also not naked....unless he went to some dodgey place around brewer st soho....lots of doorway clubs there.

100% UNTRUE

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/12/2020 23:40

@earsup

I havent read the whole thread...i knew some one who worked in one of these places...she said no nudity was allowed..or licence would be revoked...private dances also not naked....unless he went to some dodgey place around brewer st soho....lots of doorway clubs there.
Absolutely not true of this particular club, at all. Look at their website / reviews (warning - they make you despair of the entitlement of some men "just pop a quid in the pint glass they bring round at the start" etc) and you'll see that. Absolutely nude, absolutely lowest of low prices. Grim.
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