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Ex sex worker, past is still haunting me. Can you give it to me straight about this situation.

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BadPastBrightFuture · 06/12/2020 13:46

NC for obvious reasons but I'm a regular poster. I'm donning my hard hat for the inevitable pile on, but I need to be told straight how it is so I'm ok with that.

When I was in my late teens I was a sex worker, I was pushed into it by the abusive arsehole I was with at the time who used to beat me and made me pay his way.

One of the men who would 'book' me (single man in his late 40's, not married) became a regular client and something of a friend. I say friend, that's what he said he saw me as and he much kinder to me than most of the others.

Eventually I managed to get out of the abusive relationship and was able to stop the sex work (it was never something I wanted to do in the first place)

The man I mentioned above stayed in touch and when he wanted to see me I explained why I'd stopped doing it and told him that I was coerced in the first place.

Despite that, he wanted to continue coming to see me so after a year or so of him getting in touch I agreed to see him (and only him) on a paid basis again as I was desperate for money and was starting from scratch in an expensive city, lodging with a relative and I had nothing.

I would see him every so often and the money was helpful so I'd paint on a smile and get on with it, except I was no longer getting the amount I used to get as he assumed that because he was travelling further to see me it would be ok to pay me for an hour of my time and have me with him all evening. I didn't feel able to say much about it because I wasn't 'working' properly anymore, despite him seeing multiple other sex workers and paying them their going rate ph. He insists we're great friends.

To cut a long story short I don't want to do it anymore. I have alot of unprocessed trauma from the sex work, mental health problems, so seeing him and doing these degrading roleplays makes it all worse.

I'm starting to emerge from the FOG amd accept that a true friend wouldn't dream of paying a vulnerable woman for sex and degrading them. All of this mushy 'good friends' talk is just something he tells himself to justify what he's doing.

If he truly gave a shit about me and wanted to help me then he'd do so without expecting sex wouldn't he?

As for what I want from the thread, a proverbial kick up the backside and to tell me how it is, to confirm my gut feeling and give me the push I need to stop this once and for all.

Despite knowing in my heart of hearts that I'm being taken advantage of, I've been reluctant to just block and cut him off because he insists he cares about me so much because we're good friends.

Ok mumsnet.. over to you Sad

OP posts:
SmileEachDay · 06/12/2020 13:50

If he truly gave a shit about me and wanted to help me then he'd do so without expecting sex wouldn't he?

Yes, he would.

It’s going to be very hard for you dealing with the trauma of being prostituted. Your consent has not been freely given over a number of years. I’d gently suggest that it will be impossible for you to process that trauma whilst you are still in a situation where the sex is for money, and your consent is not freely given.

He’s a sleaze.

Sounds like you’re on the road to mending yourself - you won’t get anything but support from me. Flowers

WishingHopingThinkingPraying · 06/12/2020 13:50

You have every right to not see anyone for any reason you wish. ANY! You are right, he was possibly one of the worst abusers because if how he played and used you. It's NOT your fault. And you have no obligation to ever even respond to any contact from him again. I wish so much there was proper grounds to call he police on him. He's scum if the earth for what he's done to you.

You decide everything to do with you from now on. And you deserve to be happy and free and well and comfortable as much as anyone.

Deathgrip · 06/12/2020 13:51

I’m so sorry things have been so difficult to you, and I have no idea what kind of arsehole would be cruel to you about this.

You are absolutely right - he is no friend of yours, he’s abusive and manipulative. Block his number and any other method of contact and move on with your life. Access the support you need for your mental health, the freedom programme may also really help. Most importantly, be kind to yourself - you’ve done what you needed to do to survive, and you’ve been exploited by various men who are dreadful human beings. You are not. Think of how you’d show kindness to a friend in this situation and show that to yourself - you deserve it.

Blueemeraldagain · 06/12/2020 13:51

I wouldn’t (at the moment at least) get bogged down in whether he cares about you or not. The relationship is unhealthy and damaging. It needs to stop.

CutToChase · 06/12/2020 13:52

Hes not your friend.

Hes a grown man who paid money to have sex with an abused teenage girl. Hes lucky you dont report him for that

Notimeforaname · 06/12/2020 13:53

Yes he's taking advantage of you. He knows what he is doing. And you can see it. So stop it

I'm sorry for the difficult life youve had op.Flowers
Cut him off...amd dont engage with him again. You are worth more than any price. Xxx

WindowsSmindows · 06/12/2020 13:54

I honestly think that if you told us where you are that we would volunteer to go with you the next time you meet him. Yes in time you will be stronger than you are now but for now feel free to use our strength to get you out of this situation!!

HotelliFinlandia · 06/12/2020 13:55

Well I don't think you need a kicking at all! Your head is soundly screwed on and you know exactly what's happening and what to do. So it's a big hug from me to say you're not alone, I for one am online standing behind you. Given what you've managed to get yourself out of so far in life, blocking this shithead will be relatively easy.

And if you start to feel bad about starting up seeing him or that you believed he was a friend, know - I mean really hold on to - the fact that you were abused by the first relationship and this guy essentially continued but in a softer way. He knew you'd been primed. So don't feel bad, feel proud of what you've managed to do given where you've had to pull yourself out of.

Truly, it's quite impressive to read, so well done.

As for shit head, on you go. You know you can do this.

Cocomarine · 06/12/2020 13:55

I’m so sorry for what you were forced to do then, and what you’re coerced to do now.

Cut him loose. Good luck with trauma work - I think that will be far more successful when he is out of your life, and you’re not still living that coercion. He’s not a good person, and he’s certainly not a friend to you.

Good luck to you ❤️

BadPastBrightFuture · 06/12/2020 13:57

Oh wow, i wasn't expecting people to be kind to me. I honestly expected to be called scum and told it's my own doing. Thank you.

I felt sick writing this post as I've never repeated any of this to anybody in real life and as you can tell, I've struggled to trust my judgement.

OP posts:
Cocomarine · 06/12/2020 13:59

I love your username ❤️
I thought when I read your OP that it was really sad that you felt the need to stress that his arsehole isn’t married. If he was, I still wouldn’t judge you for that, only him!

MushMonster · 06/12/2020 13:59

You have answered yourself. He does not give a shit about you, he is not your friend. He is using you. So did your disgusting abusive partner and the other men that were your customers.
You deserve better, you deserve to be treated like an equal human being, no something to use.
You need to cut this guy, block. And you will need a long time on your own healing. No man involved. Until you get in touch with your own selfworth OP.
He is a user, but it is you who is allowing him to use you. Your lack of self steem. You need to find that. First step will be to block this guy and never do any type of sex work again, because that is not what you want. You have to work on yourself. You are worthy OP. At least, you have family who gives a shit about you, and you are living with them. Start there to find yourself again.
Flowers

LuckyNumberThirteen · 06/12/2020 14:00

What's there to judge?

You were in a truly horrific situation and you're just doing what you need to survive.

Good luck, OP.

SparklyGlitter95 · 06/12/2020 14:00

Sorry no good advice but just wanted to send some love your way OP Flowers xxx

SmileyClare · 06/12/2020 14:01

Stop being hard on yourself. You don't need a "kick up the bum" you need support and a big hug.

You've been consistently abused by all these men in your life including your "friend" now. Please try to stop the self loathing, you have been taken advantage of, this is not your fault.

I know the NHS and mental health services are a bit crap but could you ask for counselling to help you process some of your trauma?

Stop contact with the man who is manipulating you now. You owe him nothing. Don't feel guilty or obligated.
Look after yourself Flowers

Heatherjayne1972 · 06/12/2020 14:02

No judgement from me
I echo what everyone has said - this man is not your friend he’s an abuser
Can you block him from everywhere ? maybe Consider calling the police if he turns up at your house

Do you have real life friends or family for support? Perhaps some type of therapy / freedom program would help you to unpick it all
I think you’ve done a great job so far.
You have come a long way and it’s only upwards going forward - don’t look back - you’re not going that way

PickledRick · 06/12/2020 14:03

You are not scum. You are not unworthy. You are entitled to give your body to only men YOU choose. This man is not your friend. He is using you for sex and putting both your physical and mental health at risk. Please stop seeing him if you no longer want to. You are entitled to a life with only good people around you. Flowers

BadPastBrightFuture · 06/12/2020 14:03

Thank you all so much

I'm in a much better place now than I was a few years ago, I have a little part time job and most importantly - family.

It's because things have got better in other areas and I've distanced myself from the bulk of the shit that I'm able to see things more clearly, but because he plays the Nice Guy so well, I haven't been able to trust my judgement %100 as I still have alot of healing to do.

OP posts:
MrsSpenserGregson · 06/12/2020 14:05

@BadPastBrightFuture

Oh wow, i wasn't expecting people to be kind to me. I honestly expected to be called scum and told it's my own doing. Thank you.

I felt sick writing this post as I've never repeated any of this to anybody in real life and as you can tell, I've struggled to trust my judgement.

No, no, no, you are not scum. You sound incredibly brave and strong, and it is wonderful that you have been able to start to see things for what they really are Flowers.

It wasn't your own doing (and even if it had been, you would still have had my sympathy).

The scum in this story is your "friend."

Can you access some counselling to help you unpick things? Do you have a GP you could talk to?

UglyHoose · 06/12/2020 14:05

God OP you don't need a kick up the bum, you need kindness and support. You were groomed and abused, and this man, who categorically is not a friend at all, is continuing this abuse.

You don't need to meet him, you don't owe him any explanation, just block him.

I'm so glad that your username sees a bright future Flowers

dontlikebeards · 06/12/2020 14:06

You are definitely not scum. Block him, forget him, you owe him nothing. I'm sure you have a wonderfully bright future ahead of you.

MushMonster · 06/12/2020 14:06

@BadPastBrightFuture

Oh wow, i wasn't expecting people to be kind to me. I honestly expected to be called scum and told it's my own doing. Thank you.

I felt sick writing this post as I've never repeated any of this to anybody in real life and as you can tell, I've struggled to trust my judgement.

You are very detached of your value as a human being, you see. This is what all the years of abuse have done to you. You will likely need counselling. But first step is to open your eyes about how you are a victim and of course people will be kind and understanding, and wish you the best.. People may get different teplies if they post: "I am a sex worker, I have plenty of married customers with young childre, I do not care, I just love the money. It is their wives fault, they are not good enough to all these men. I am better than them, so I get the ££££s". But in reality, I think even women that sport this attitude get hurt by it too, and just present a brave face. They are used too, and I think they will get eroded too.
Thelnebriati · 06/12/2020 14:06

Ask your GP what counselling is available where you live. The dynamic you are in with this man is very similar to the one you have managed to leave. You need to learn good boundaries and that you have the right to refuse sex to men, even if you are in a relationship, even if they are nice to you or pay you.

Look into The Freedom Program, they have a book you can buy on Amazon;
freedomprogramme.co.uk/docs/dominator-mr-right.pdf

freedomprogramme.co.uk/index.php

PickledRick · 06/12/2020 14:07

I'm glad you are in a better place OP. Keep moving forwards and leave your past (and the bastards who used you) in it.

MushMonster · 06/12/2020 14:07

Do block this guy and be kind to yourself OP.