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Ex sex worker, past is still haunting me. Can you give it to me straight about this situation.

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BadPastBrightFuture · 06/12/2020 13:46

NC for obvious reasons but I'm a regular poster. I'm donning my hard hat for the inevitable pile on, but I need to be told straight how it is so I'm ok with that.

When I was in my late teens I was a sex worker, I was pushed into it by the abusive arsehole I was with at the time who used to beat me and made me pay his way.

One of the men who would 'book' me (single man in his late 40's, not married) became a regular client and something of a friend. I say friend, that's what he said he saw me as and he much kinder to me than most of the others.

Eventually I managed to get out of the abusive relationship and was able to stop the sex work (it was never something I wanted to do in the first place)

The man I mentioned above stayed in touch and when he wanted to see me I explained why I'd stopped doing it and told him that I was coerced in the first place.

Despite that, he wanted to continue coming to see me so after a year or so of him getting in touch I agreed to see him (and only him) on a paid basis again as I was desperate for money and was starting from scratch in an expensive city, lodging with a relative and I had nothing.

I would see him every so often and the money was helpful so I'd paint on a smile and get on with it, except I was no longer getting the amount I used to get as he assumed that because he was travelling further to see me it would be ok to pay me for an hour of my time and have me with him all evening. I didn't feel able to say much about it because I wasn't 'working' properly anymore, despite him seeing multiple other sex workers and paying them their going rate ph. He insists we're great friends.

To cut a long story short I don't want to do it anymore. I have alot of unprocessed trauma from the sex work, mental health problems, so seeing him and doing these degrading roleplays makes it all worse.

I'm starting to emerge from the FOG amd accept that a true friend wouldn't dream of paying a vulnerable woman for sex and degrading them. All of this mushy 'good friends' talk is just something he tells himself to justify what he's doing.

If he truly gave a shit about me and wanted to help me then he'd do so without expecting sex wouldn't he?

As for what I want from the thread, a proverbial kick up the backside and to tell me how it is, to confirm my gut feeling and give me the push I need to stop this once and for all.

Despite knowing in my heart of hearts that I'm being taken advantage of, I've been reluctant to just block and cut him off because he insists he cares about me so much because we're good friends.

Ok mumsnet.. over to you Sad

OP posts:
josbd · 06/12/2020 20:06

I agree with what everyone has already said here. Get rid of the user, good luck in the future, and much love xxx

RubyViolet · 06/12/2020 20:15

Good luck with your bright future ! I believe that you can do the work on yourself to get through this.
The organisations mentioned are all great resources to make that start.
Hold your head high and take that first step for yourself. 2021 could be the beginning of the happy years for you.👍

SingingInTheShithouse · 06/12/2020 20:17

You need a name change, WarriorWithaBrightFuture suits you far better.

You've had your perception so bloody screwed by these manipulative & abusive men that you expect judgement for THIER evil behaviour. Anyone who would judge you is a dickhead cut from the same cloth as your abusers. Good luck with the therapy to turn that around. Here's to your very bright & peaceful future 🥂

QuentinWinters · 06/12/2020 20:25

Well done op you sound amazing.
Thought you might find this useful, there is some good stuff on the authors Facebook too if you search up "shark cage"
Its a pdf link but really worth a read
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.rydon.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/SharkCage-1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi5utKImLrtAhVUiFwKHZL7AjcQFjANegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw024uq0d7X06Fj1Rub8QsXE" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.rydon.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/SharkCage-1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi5utKImLrtAhVUiFwKHZL7AjcQFjANegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw024uq0d7X06Fj1Rub8QsXE

TooTiredToAdultToday · 06/12/2020 20:35

OP I have no experience of this but just wanted to say as others have that no reasonable woman would judge another for going through this experience. You didn’t choose to go into sex work you were coerced. Even if you had chosen to it would have been your body and your choice, not for anyone else to look down on you for. You deserve to move on from that time of your life, heal and be happy. Good luck.

BrassicaRabbit · 06/12/2020 21:03

Oh wow, i wasn't expecting people to be kind to me. I honestly expected to be called scum and told it's my own doing. Thank you.

Heartbreaking to read this! You aren't scum now, and you weren't scum them. Even if, for whatever reason, you weren't able to break free of this man you would not be scum.

He has practically watched you grow up and still thinks it's appropriate to perpetuate the abuse. He is the scum, as are all the others involved.

Sadly it's normal in our culture (and others) for women to be made to feel the shame for the abusive actions of men. Good luck healing your trauma. It is a hard journey but so, so worthwhile Flowers

CupoTeap · 06/12/2020 21:09

You can do this, it's another step towards where you want to be. You can do it!

PurpleMustang · 06/12/2020 22:37

He also abused you but he thought as he was your friend it was ok what he was doing. Then even after you told him what happened to you, he kept in contact (i dont think it was for a caring, are you ok capacity), so he could jump in and proposition you and he has convinced himself he is doing his mate a favour by travelling to see you. And then expecting 'mates rates' like you are a cakebaker. You deserve better and you know it

EvilHerbivore · 06/12/2020 22:44

Don't know if it's been mentioned but seeking out a Freedom Programme course (online possibly if there's no groups at the minute) and getting holding of a 'Living With The Dominator' book (try eBay for that) I think would really really help you too
Good luck

picklemewalnuts · 06/12/2020 22:57

How old were you when all this started, OP?

Wellpark · 06/12/2020 23:01

You just be kind to yourself and get counseling..leave this so called friend in the past where he belongs. Best of luck xx

yetanothernamitynamechange · 06/12/2020 23:15

One of the biggest tricks that men have played on us historically and in the present, is somehow transferring all the shame that should be felt by them onto the women they hurt. I don't know how they get away with it. You have nothing to be ashamed of. The shame is all on him and deep deep down they know thism they just don't care. I would also expect he has a lot to lose from actually doing anything with the pictures etc - I can guarantee there are a lot of people in his life that dont know he visits teenage prostitutes. Plus revenge porn is illegal. So even if he threatens (or drops hints) to do anything with the pictures, you should be able to scare him of pretty effectively by pointing that fact out.
For what its worth I do think there are some good men out there. They are just much rarer than good women which is why so many decent women end up with douchebags or single. I chose single :)

yetanothernamitynamechange · 06/12/2020 23:21

Incidentally I found out, after we broke up, that my ex had been seeing prostitutes (including when I was at home looking after our young child). He was an abusive shit bag. I felt nothing but utter revulsion that even he could stoop so low. But it would never, ever have occurred to me to blame the women he was seeing. In fact I feel oddly guilty about it myself even though I know, rationally, that the only person who should be feeling guilty is him. I mention this only because you were at great pains to stress that this man is not married as if you were afraid people would blame you if they thought you were sleeping with a married man. He, and the other men that used you, are the scum, married or single. You were not and are not.

MazDazzle · 06/12/2020 23:32

You are a stronger person for everything you have been through. You can overcome this. Keep going. Flowers

BadPastBrightFuture · 06/12/2020 23:37

I've re-read every single reply tonight as I've sat in bed wondering what my exit strategy will be, the support and sterling advice here is priceless

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NeedToKnow101 · 06/12/2020 23:56

I hate him on your behalf OP. So glad you have found the strength to get away from him. As others have said, do it safely.

Paulambrown65 · 07/12/2020 00:30

Just read your post and I wanted to say the very best of luck to you. Make sure you get counselling and put your past where it belongs, behind you. Move on and try to have a happy life, alone for a while. You will meet someone new when the time is right.
Sending love and hugs your way xxx

Anordinarymum · 07/12/2020 00:38

He keeps seeing you because you let him. All the things he does such as asking you to dress up and not paying you for the full time he is there are rubber stamping in his head that you are happy with this situation.
The only thing I can say to you is if something happened and people found out what you were doing, you would have to stop seeing him so better that you do it now before something like that does happen.

I bet he still sees other ladies and I bet he tries to get discounts with them by making them feel he is different to the other clients because he cares.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 07/12/2020 00:45

If he threatens to/shares intimate images of you, that is a crime.

Anything shameful like that which he does, it's his shame, not yours.

It always feels daunting at first exerting a boundary but it's like muscle memory- you get much better at it as time goes on.

NotPrude · 07/12/2020 01:09

Oh this makes me so sad. You are a victim. No one can judge you for being a victim and if anyone does, they have the problem, not you.

Well done for getting yourself out, and I am so sorry you are still dealing with this man. He is not your friend. As you point out yourself, friends would not be paying you for sex. He is playing mind games with you, and on top of that he is taking advantage of you by only paying for an hour yet taking your whole evening...that’s some real manipulation there.

Please distance yourself from him, and if you ever need any help, we will all be here for you.

VillanellesOrangeCoat · 07/12/2020 02:01

There’s a great organisation in Manchester called MASH -

www.mash.org.uk/

They offer all sorts of support including counselling, and if they can’t help directly will be able to point you in the right direction for the caring support you need & deserve. No-one will judge you (because they have no right to do so).
Good luck, @BadPastBrightFuture. You’re worth that bright future Flowers

CoffeeCreamandSugar · 07/12/2020 02:07

No OP. I haven’t read the full thread but I wanted to say that no one that genuinely cared would treat you that way. Block him. Keep moving forward. You can do this Flowers

Mummyozzi · 07/12/2020 03:35

No I don't think other intelligent women will judge you, you're a victim and right on the woman who said to not refer to yourself as a "sex worker". You're a survivor of abuse and it was a complete violation of your human rights.

Having said that, you're very smart to not trust others easily with what has happened. The only people that should know are counsellors that have the expertise to deal with complex trauma. People need to earn the right to learn your story as you've seen first hand. Anyone that judges you is an imbecile but I would prefer you didn't have to learn who the imbeciles are the hard way.

You sound very intelligent OP and it is amazing how you have gotten through this, I think you will go far in life.

Mummyozzi · 07/12/2020 03:37

Also, I would tell him you're in a romantic relationship with a police officer and have to end things and then block him on everything.

YoungScrappyHungry · 07/12/2020 04:46

Don't tell him you're in a relationship with a police officer ffs, that's what Raoul Moats girlfriend said, it doesn't work with and just aggravates the situation further.

He sounds like such a loser OP. Take yourself out of it for a second, what an absolute failed man that he can't find himself a consenting, adult relationship. Ah but of course it's because 'Women don't understand me, they don't listen to me like you do'. Because he has to pay! He can't get it the usual way, though mutual respect, effort, time and understanding. What a loser.

You got this OP Flowers

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