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Ex sex worker, past is still haunting me. Can you give it to me straight about this situation.

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BadPastBrightFuture · 06/12/2020 13:46

NC for obvious reasons but I'm a regular poster. I'm donning my hard hat for the inevitable pile on, but I need to be told straight how it is so I'm ok with that.

When I was in my late teens I was a sex worker, I was pushed into it by the abusive arsehole I was with at the time who used to beat me and made me pay his way.

One of the men who would 'book' me (single man in his late 40's, not married) became a regular client and something of a friend. I say friend, that's what he said he saw me as and he much kinder to me than most of the others.

Eventually I managed to get out of the abusive relationship and was able to stop the sex work (it was never something I wanted to do in the first place)

The man I mentioned above stayed in touch and when he wanted to see me I explained why I'd stopped doing it and told him that I was coerced in the first place.

Despite that, he wanted to continue coming to see me so after a year or so of him getting in touch I agreed to see him (and only him) on a paid basis again as I was desperate for money and was starting from scratch in an expensive city, lodging with a relative and I had nothing.

I would see him every so often and the money was helpful so I'd paint on a smile and get on with it, except I was no longer getting the amount I used to get as he assumed that because he was travelling further to see me it would be ok to pay me for an hour of my time and have me with him all evening. I didn't feel able to say much about it because I wasn't 'working' properly anymore, despite him seeing multiple other sex workers and paying them their going rate ph. He insists we're great friends.

To cut a long story short I don't want to do it anymore. I have alot of unprocessed trauma from the sex work, mental health problems, so seeing him and doing these degrading roleplays makes it all worse.

I'm starting to emerge from the FOG amd accept that a true friend wouldn't dream of paying a vulnerable woman for sex and degrading them. All of this mushy 'good friends' talk is just something he tells himself to justify what he's doing.

If he truly gave a shit about me and wanted to help me then he'd do so without expecting sex wouldn't he?

As for what I want from the thread, a proverbial kick up the backside and to tell me how it is, to confirm my gut feeling and give me the push I need to stop this once and for all.

Despite knowing in my heart of hearts that I'm being taken advantage of, I've been reluctant to just block and cut him off because he insists he cares about me so much because we're good friends.

Ok mumsnet.. over to you Sad

OP posts:
GeidiPrimes · 06/12/2020 15:12

He sounds like a nasty woman-hating piece of shit OP and I'm glad you're breaking free of him. Now you will be able to actually heal from the trauma, (maybe with the help of a therapist that you feel safe with) instead of him re-traumatising you all the time. If he harasses you after you cut him off, report him to NUM/police for stalking you. He does sound like a controlling type, and I'm angry on your behalf that he would get you to stay all night and only pay you for an hour. Typical punter behaviour, certainly not the behaviour of a friend.

Just block him on all platforms, he doesn't deserve an explanation and will only attempt to convince you otherwise. He's the scum here, not you OP Flowers

GeidiPrimes · 06/12/2020 15:20

It's strange, he's that engulfed in the world of sex workers I genuinely believe he thinks he's doing no wrong and he's one of the good guys.

That's the cognitive dissonance at play. In order to sexually abuse women, he has to believe he's not like other punters.

BlueSuffragette · 06/12/2020 15:20

OP he has taken advantage of you. Friends don't do that. Worse still he knew you were abused and chose to continue to put you in that situation. He is scum and you need to block him right now. You have done so well to move away from the horrific abusive relationship. Best of luck to you for the future. You deserve a life full of happiness not fear. Take care xx

NewNameNewJob · 06/12/2020 15:21

Oh love well done for breaking through 🤗 you've had some really good advice on here. Definitely seek support - Women's Aid is a good place to start as has been mentioned and Freedom Project. You're right he's not a good person nor a friend and just because he hasn't been violent doesn't mean he can't pose a risk so take some advice on your own security at home (Women's Aid are good for this, alternatively if you Google your area lots of cities have programmes for women leaving sex work behind them and they can be really helpful. Whatever you do, do not meet him again (even as "friends/coffee" etc... - you owe him absolutely nothing. Get your ducks in a row about security (including of the images he has of you) and let the service you choose to support you help you to put together a text message to send him telling him you won't be meeting on X date, you don't wish to have future contact and the message is an instruction to delete any data including text messages, photographs immediately and you do not consent to him sharing any of it. This makes it absolutely clear and anything he does share would be an offence x well done, you've done the hardest bit now let people who genuinely want to help you do just that, you absolutely deserve it :)

52andblue · 06/12/2020 15:21

OP, you are amazingly strong to have survived all you have.
You CAN cut this man out of your life and you must try to if you can.
You need the space to work on your healing now and continuing to see him will slow that process right down.
You have NOTHING to be ashamed of.
You survived the best you could.
If he was really a friend he'd meet for a coffee / modest meal & chat to you, ask about ALL of your life, make you laugh, cheer you up. Give.
But he takes. Your body, your mind, your energies, your self esteem. And in return he offers an hours pay? what a vile excuse for a man.
Yes, contact Womens Aid. Access some specialist counselling if you can. Remember your worth is beyond rubies my darling x

EmNetta · 06/12/2020 15:24

Thank you for letting us know you plan to end the "friendship" you mention. I'm sure it will be the best thing for your future, however you decide to go about it, and should you have second thoughts at any time, please just remember how he used this so-called friendship to demand mates-rates - that's really mean, and none of us need friends like that.
All best wishes for the future.

2bazookas · 06/12/2020 15:24

You don't need an arse kick or any telling by us.

You're doing fine all by yourself, making your own decisions and choices, working out what you want and where your boundaries are, making a new better life for yourself. That's all down to you, so own it and be proud.

You know what to do about that man; and you'll easily be able to do it. Because you've already got rid of worse men.

Strangedayindeed · 06/12/2020 15:25

I’m so sorry this has happened to you. You sound like a very strong person. Good luck.

Gifgif · 06/12/2020 15:26

What's there to judge?

You were in a truly horrific situation and you're just doing what you need to survive.

Good luck, OP.

No judgement here either. How do you think he will react? Will he use it against you? I'd come up with a reason that will put him off wanting to use you like this - pain during sex or something, let him think it's not in his interest to sleep with you again. I hate for him to turn on you. Flowers

HollowTalk · 06/12/2020 15:26

I assume you know his real life details, too, don't you? He's the one who should have something to worry about - it sounds like he's spent his whole life paying women to have anything to do with him.

An0n0n0n · 06/12/2020 15:26

You don't owe him anything, not even an explanation. Block him and look after yourself. Sounds like he gets off on coersion

happystone · 06/12/2020 15:28

You have done so well.please don’t be hard on yourself.you sound like a lovely person who through no fault of your own has been tacked advantage of.please don’t see this man he is not your friend and is only thinking about his needs.you have done so well and you should be proud of yourself 💐

Vgtasd · 06/12/2020 15:29

Awww love my heart breaks for you. He is not your friend, he is a manipulative user. Have nothing more to do with him, you've come so far and I wish you nothing but love and happiness for the future xxx

HermioneWeasley · 06/12/2020 15:30

No judgement OP - you were a victim and now you’re starting to process and heal. This man is abusive scum, and I think you realise that. You are worth so much more.

Wishing you nothing but good things in the future

Turbobaby · 06/12/2020 15:36

Just to echo what everyone else is saying. You have the strength to get through this, and part of that strength is getting to a place where you feel you can ask for help. Your own mental health is worth far more than any guilt he might make you feel about ending the arrangement. If he was truly a friend he would already have seen that.

HeelsHandbagPerfumeCoffee · 06/12/2020 15:39

No I’ll not kick your arse,I’ll commend you on taking steps to recovery & Christ it’s hard
You have been emotionally & physically abused and commoditised by men
Men who presented themselves as caring for you eg boyfriend and skeazy acquaintance

Gp can refer to community mental health team if you need support

Take care, you’re not defined by your past or the things that happened. You can leave those events as memories, remnants of a different life

Cam2020 · 06/12/2020 15:41

Everything you've said is absolutely right, OP. I'm glad you can see that you've been taken advantage of from the start.

I don't have anything constructive to add, you've had so much good advice already. FWIW, I don't think there's anything wrong with sex work in itself as long as it's consensual with clear boundaries, but all too often, there is coercion and abuse and that is not OK.

I hope you get some help with your MH issues Flowers

fatkitchen · 06/12/2020 15:42

Is there an organisation you can contact for advice ?

june2007 · 06/12/2020 15:44

Contact him and tell him your not doing this any more and that you quitting for good and do not want him in touch anymore. That you feal you are mooving on away from that life.

Carpathian2 · 06/12/2020 15:46

No judgment here either. Please be kind to yourself, you've nothing to be ashamed of. You were exploited and, if this man had his way, still are. But you're beginning to reclaim yourself and that can only be applauded.

Good luck, you deserve it Flowers

BadPastBrightFuture · 06/12/2020 15:48

Thank you all so much for the supportive messages, I'll be home in a few hours and will read and respond to everything then.

You have no idea what this means to me, I appreciate every word x

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Sherin18 · 06/12/2020 15:52

You have nothing to be ashamed of so please be kind to yourself. Well done for breaking out of this, that’s an incredibly strong thing to do. I hope you are able to get some counselling.

Inpersuitofhappiness · 06/12/2020 15:52

I'm late to the party, but I imagine that what I'm going to say has already been said.
I want you to think about this for a second.
A friend says to you, I dont want to do x/y/z, I've been doing it because I was coerced, it wasnt my choice. It wasnt something I've ever chosen to do, but circumstances meant I had no other choice. Would you then ask that friend to do x/y/z for you?

Would you have the complete lack of regard for them as a person to not only do x/y and z, but also reduce the one thing they gained from doing that for you?

I really, really want you to see that you are still being coerced into doing something that you are not comfortable doing. There is a scumbag in this situation, and it isnt you.

I'm not trying to be rude or unnecessarily graphic, but you have spelled out quite clearly that you didnt like prostitution, and he still wants to put his dick in you for money. I cant imagine that is a normal level of empathy to feel for any person. Hes knowingly abusing you, and cut your rate, all under the guise of this "friendship"

Block the bastard.

Enjoy your life. You dont have to do things you dont want to, and you certainly dont need to be around disgusting people like him.

FWIW, it feels important that I tell you this for some reason. I have a friend who was trafficked for prostitution about 15 years ago. This client became a regular and one day she told him she was forced into it, and that she didnt have a choice. You know what he did? He gave her his phone to contact the police. He had no idea that it wasnt her choice and was shocked and wanted to help her get out of the situation she was in. Not like your "friend"

Please see you're worth better friends than this.

BBCONEANDTWO · 06/12/2020 15:55

My heart and soul goes out to you I am teary eyed reading your honest and traumatic post. No advice except please please please see if you can get some kind of therapy to get over this terrible experience. You are the innocent victim and I really wish you all the very best and happiness and much love.

Bellringer · 06/12/2020 15:55

He has abused and exploited you. Cut contact and seek help. Good luck

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