Carrie Bradshaw - A CF, right?

[Nikhedonia]

She's a pretty self-obsessed shit friend, but a CF too, right?

I rewatched an episode the other day where she needed to buy her apartment and she expected Charlotte to sell her engagement ring to fund the purchase

I reckon if SATC were real, Miranda or Charlotte would be on MN gushing about their best friend being incredible and everyone would be calling Carrie a CF and advising them to go NC.

I can't find the interview

But it was totally worth it, just to see Liza Minnelli sing All The Single Ladies.
Nothing in the world was more cringworthy than that.

@choli

But it was totally worth it, just to see Liza Minnelli sing All The Single Ladies. Nothing in the world was more cringworthy than that.

Carrie showing up at Church and forcing an introduction between her and Big's mum.

@MandalaYogaTapestry I agree.
Neurotic insecure with a kind understanding of her friendships.

@MandalaYogaTapestry

Whatever her pesonal qualities were, Carrie was always a good friend. Pretty much in every episode they talk about their lives, men, problem, offer advice and support. There were many occasions when her friends confided in Carrie, not others.

Miranda told her she was pregnant, Carrie was with her in the abortion clinic, at birth, she was Brady's god mother.

Carrie was Charlotte's maid of nonour, listened to her confess that Tray couldn't "get it up" and said that if Charlotte wanted to just leave she would help her. Carrie babysat Charlotte's daughter and Brady.

Carrie was the one to whom Samantha showed her red clown bush (lucky her 🙄), who listened to Samantha being "all alone" when she had flu and made her that therapeutic coctail.

There are many, many more.

They can be many things but they were each other's support network at all times and that's what friendship is about.

This is why I think it's endured, it's about friendship far more than sex and romantic relationships.

The episode were Miranda's mother dies is really moving.

And the bit after Charlotte's (first) wedding, where Carrie's voice over says "It's hard enough to find someone who will love you despite all your faults. Luckily, I found three of them"

May have paraphrased a bit there.

I think we need to remember it was SO head of its time in the 90's, totally groundbreaking to see smart, wealthy, confident women on TV unashamedly talking about enjoying sex and men. We don't even really have anything like it now.

I like that the characters were flawed. So boring to have the same one dimensional goody-two shoes women on our screens. I love to hate Carrie.

This thread has made me so nostalgic I may have to watch them all again

And yes the death of Miranda's mother was beautifully done. And so accurate in how it plays out. When Carrie joined her as she walked back up the aisle all alone. Gorgeous moment. The gorgeous moments make up for the shitty moments

You know, since I posted on this thread I got to thinking

I still envy the life they have (not Charlotte) where they answer to no one and basically please thenselves. Yes, they’re bitchy sometimes but I think most groups of good friends have their moments. Not so much now I’m the age they were in the series (which I cannot believe!) but the age I was when I was watching, early 20s.

I think the funeral episode, for example, was a good way to show that in a lighthearted comedy (not really but it wasn’t drama either) the characters were supportive of one another.

@GlummyMcGlummerson

I think we need to remember it was SO head of its time in the 90's, totally groundbreaking to see smart, wealthy, confident women on TV unashamedly talking about enjoying sex and men. We don't even really have anything like it now.

I like that the characters were flawed. So boring to have the same one dimensional goody-two shoes women on our screens. I love to hate Carrie.

This thread has made me so nostalgic I may have to watch them all again

I tried to say this earlier but got told I was being mean🤔 it was ahead of its time with women behaving like men, dont forget it was maimly written by gay men in the beginnin especially Samanthas part. Samant and the bc was also beautifully covered.

I'm rewatching them all now. So much smoking!

I think the funeral episode, for example, was a good way to show that in a lighthearted comedy (not really but it wasn’t drama either) the characters were supportive of one another.

I loved Charlotte's line "the flowers were supposed to say 'we're sorry, we love you, we're here for you' not 'you're dead, let's disco!' "

Oh yeah I loved that episode. It was everything, it was everything that great friends would be to one another. And steve and Aiden showing up. I thought it was beautiful.

She was stupid and the films show her getting worse- but I do love Carrie. Miranda was the real
Hero and Sam and Charlotte was ridiculous

@EachandEveryone I didn't see your comment but I have to laugh as only on MN would someone be called mean for saying a show was ahead of it's time 🤣

@EachandEveryone you weren't called mean, as far as I saw. I said your post was ignorant (which it was). Someone else who read it on this thread obviously felt similarly and reported to MN and it's now been deleted.

@FrancoBranco

I think the funeral episode, for example, was a good way to show that in a lighthearted comedy (not really but it wasn’t drama either) the characters were supportive of one another.

I loved Charlotte's line "the flowers were supposed to say 'we're sorry, we love you, we're here for you' not 'you're dead, let's disco!' "

Oh yes. That was a really good episode. Very interesting dynamics between the characters. Didn't Samantha try to avoid going?

Was the comment clarifying what I said deleted as well? The one saying that they were the first to show queens and women having fun on mainstream telly and that drag queens are every where on telly now? Yes that’s really offensive and I must be making it up? They totally showed gay New York life and friendships as they are. Poor Stamford at the underwear party 😟 I think he was my favourite of them all. I follow him on Instagram he’s a lovely guy. He adopted his son on his own and their relationship is very lovely to see from him been about five to the man he is today.

I think it's one of those series' where you have to watch them all to ' get it' .

My take on it is that their selfish , shallow entitlement and materialism never brought them happiness, it was only life changing events like illness, unexpected pregnancy, and love from an unexpected direction that made them happy ultimately.

Carrie was the last to discover this, and I guess as the whole thing ended and she was ' last woman standing' , she was still unhappy and deservingly so.

Looking back it's pretty cringy to remember girls admiring the SATC girls for their independence , style and sexual freedom. Ultimately the whole point was it was hollow lifestyle and whilst short term pleasures were had, in the long term they all had to become better people.

Nikhedonia

Oh yes. That was a really good episode. Very interesting dynamics between the characters. Didn't Samantha try to avoid going?

I think she tried to avoid going, but she also lost her orgasm in that episode. Charlotte was being cruel to her saying that maybe she'd used up her life's quota of orgasms and she'd never have another. At the funeral Samantha cried and that gave her the emotional release she'd been suppressing.

@EachandEveryone I think your post was deleted because you wrote 'tr**nies' and that's considered a slur. Maybe it was less offensive in SATC days when that episode was filmed, but it's not ok to say it now.

@EachandEveryone I just think it's a bit off to misrepresent what you said. You are pretending that all you said was that the show was before it's time and you were called 'mean' for it.

That isn't what happened. You used ignorant language and I said that. Your post has been deleted because of the language. Just own it and move on. No idea why you've brought it up hundreds of posts on.

Another nice Carrie moment is when Samantha turned to her when she wanted to talk about the possibility of her dying from breast cancer, Carrie had been in denial through that whole episode, wouldn’t even face the possibility, but Samantha said she needed to talk it through with her, a great line was “I could die Carrie.....and with really bad hair” it was a touching scene.

"I bet you have a beautiful cunt, dear"

I am loving it so far. Lots of proper laughs. I am bracing myself for it to turn ugly as I progress. You know what, though, it is not intended to model strong independent female behaviour. Even in season 1 they're all petty and childish, they're all obsessed with looks and stuff, they do care about each other but much more about themselves and Finding A Guy, and there's no pretence otherwise.

@Iamthewombat

Agreed, not the smartest but was secure and confident in himself and enough of a man to deal with Samantha’s behaviour.

I totally agree. I watched the episode last week where Samantha ditched him to sleep with her ex Richard and Smith just sat and waited for her to come back, knowing what she was up to. He was a sweetheart.

@CarterBeatsTheDevil

"I bet you have a beautiful cunt, dear"

I am loving it so far. Lots of proper laughs. I am bracing myself for it to turn ugly as I progress. You know what, though, it is not intended to model strong independent female behaviour. Even in season 1 they're all petty and childish, they're all obsessed with looks and stuff, they do care about each other but much more about themselves and Finding A Guy, and there's no pretence otherwise.

It does actually get deeper (that sounds ridiculous given we're talking about Sex and the City 😁). But the writers tackle infertility, mental illness, heartbreak, religious conversion... All with a lot of humour.

AVOID AT ALL COSTS THE SECOND FILM. Absolute atrocity!

@CarterBeatsTheDevil, also stick it out until you get to Harry. He and Smith are wonderful ☺️