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To think husband breaking things isn’t normal?

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Sammy187 · 29/11/2020 19:43

Me and my husband have been together 7 years and during that time he’s broken multiple items in our house in anger. He once kicked our kitchen bin so hard it had a massive dent in it, made a hole in the downstairs toilet door by throwing a hammer at it because he couldn’t fix whatever he was fixing. Smashed up his laptop when the keys were sticking. Smashed the car radio when it wasn’t working.
Broken multiple mugs. Made holes in the wall.
I have a six month old girl and a 4year old boy. When my little girl was about a month old we had a very minor trivial argument, before I went up for a bath for some peace and locked the door. He was so annoyed I’d locked the door and didn’t want to talk that he repeatedly threw something at the door which now has 3 holes in.
Lately it’s Xbox. If he loses he throws things. He recently broke a mug when me and the kids were out (he didn’t hide the evidence) which turned into a massive argument and I told him it is the LAST time I put up with it.
Then yesterday while I was having a rare lie in (up breastfeeding all night) and he was supposed to be caring for the children he decided to play his Xbox. Lost and threw a mug at the door leaving a big chip in the door frame and bits of broken mug all over the hallway and stairs. I only found out when I was tidying up and he denied it and told me it fell on the kitchen floor. Only admitted it once I showed him the evidence (even found a pic with the door in it from the day before minus a chip. Full detective mode!). He’d made a half arsed effort to clean it making a hazard for my little boy to walk on!! Which really pushed me over the edge

I’ve threatened to leave before, and it’s always been a massive emotional declaration of I’ll never do it again. And here we are. Anger has NEVER been aimed at me or the children so I’ve always brushed it off, but I don’t want them growing up thinking this is ok. They rarely witness it but it’s only a matter of time. My 4 year old already throws things when he’s angry and I’m very passionate about making sure I tell him that is NOT what we do.

Do I try and get him to take anger management? Is it going to get worse? Do other people have husbands who do this?

Sorry for the essay 😫

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 30/11/2020 05:00

I’ve threatened to leave before, and it’s always been a massive emotional declaration of I’ll never do it again. And here we are. Anger has NEVER been aimed at me or the children so I’ve always brushed it off, but I don’t want them growing up thinking this is ok. They rarely witness it but it’s only a matter of time. My 4 year old already throws things when he’s angry and I’m very passionate about making sure I tell him that is NOT what we do.

Do I try and get him to take anger management? Is it going to get worse? Do other people have husbands who do this?

No, it's not normal.

Yes it is aimed at you. He does it to punish you for intruding into his mental world with requests to fix things, to look after the children, any time you decide to do something for yourself like a bath or a lie in.
Do you feel relaxed and carefree about leaving the children in his care? Can you take a chance on a lie in from now on? How do you feel about taking a bath when he is at home or when he may be feeling angry? Are you going to have to sit there and have him shout at you if you ever argue from now on, or do you feel safe telling him you have had enough and walk away?

Your children have 'rarely' seen it?
Your son has clearly seen enough for it to make a huge impression. Regardless of how often you tell him it's not what we do, he knows it most certainly is 'what we do'. He sees the holes in the walls and the doors. He knows how they got there. He has started doing it all himself. The fact that he is copying it tells you that this is all very difficult for him to process, and he is trying to create a sense of control over his terrifying home environment. Your H is doing damage here that will take a lot of work to repair.

Forget anger management. He doesn't do this at work, I guarantee it. He is well in control of his anger.
He is using his temper, not losing it.

Yes, it will get worse. Your H is a frankly terrifying man, and it is all done with a specific result in mind - he wants to feel a sense of power behind his own front door. He is a tyrant.

My advice is to divorce him. This will only get worse.

Ideally, you would call the police next time he throws or breaks anything. Are you willing to do this?

You should get photos of all the dents in the doors and the holes in the walls.

You do not want this man to see the children at weekends anywhere except in a contact centre.

You need to ask for your parents' help and support.

Is the home rented or owned? In whose name?

KarmaNoMore · 30/11/2020 08:05

Forget anger management. He doesn't do this at work, I guarantee it. He is well in control of his anger.
He is using his temper, not losing it.

That x 100.

suggestionsplease1 · 30/11/2020 08:35

I've seen anger management work for a family member who threw things, smashed his fist on walls, tables etc. It was actually very effective for him, but he was very motivated to learn from it and he realised this was a big problem and the family were not going to tolerate it any more.

But he never directed aggression against anyone else, not verbally, not emotionally and certainly never physically. For eg. he would never shout, he would certainly never call anyone names, or attempt to hurt anyone emotionally. verbally or undermine them. He never displayed contempt for anyone and I wonder if your OH is in this territory if he has called you names?

Anyway, it was effective for where this family member was at. He hasn't displayed aggression since, he is able to communicate more effectively and he takes himself away from a situation if he feels he needs to.

MilerVino · 30/11/2020 09:29

My ex had a really tricky relationship with his mother who had bullied and hit him as a small child. Looking back on it he had no trust in women and had to have total control in the relationship.

My dad hit me. I still manage to have a loving, functional relationship with my (male) partner and I wouldn't dream of punching holes in doors or throwing objects around and smashing them.

Mittens030869 · 30/11/2020 10:39

Your H reminds me of my DSis’s exH, who also used to punch at doors and bath panels. In his case, he was also violent to her, but she was equally scared of him when he was taking out his aggression on inanimate objects.

I never knew about this until later on in the marriage because, guess what, he was nice as pie when we were there. So it was never the case that he was out of control.

Thankfully for my DSis, her ex wanted out himself, though she didn’t understand that then and vehemently defended him when we tried to point out to her how out of order his treatment of her had been.

She’s now in a very happy second marriage and can see how abusive her ex was.

You really do deserve so much better, OP, and so do your DC. Your parents are clearly keen to help you, in the same way as we wanted to support my DSis. Please let them. Flowers

Someonesayroadtrip · 30/11/2020 10:51

You do need out OP. The fact you had to call you dad to calm him down where he apologised yet a few weeks later switches off the light on you, isn't on. He isn't sorry. I'm so sorry you are going through this. Please consider getting out ASAP. Imagine another lockdown stuck with him.

bevm72yellow · 30/11/2020 11:09

No sorry this is not direct at you RigeurMortis it was at comments another poster made elsewhere which was in response to their message.

bevm72yellow · 30/11/2020 12:05

@bevm72yellow

You have a fantastic way of sounding judgemental to this woman. She needs to find help and support to leave in safety. Stop throwing blame at her in a difficult situation unless you walk in her shoes.
DeRigeurMortis. This was not directed at you. A poster way up the line of messages used a tone of "judgement" in her writing and comments. Apologies.
Embracelife · 30/11/2020 12:14

Anger managdment coukd work if tge person acknowledges they havd an isdye.

Op you could try saying "when you thriw things it scares me and dc. Will you go to gp and ask for help to control this?"

His answer will tell you

" oh i am so sorry sign me up now" i know i need help.

Or
"What are you talking about you crazy woman ... you are the one who needs help ...you make me do it"

DeRigueurMortis · 30/11/2020 12:14

Thanks for the clarification Bev.

8obbingabout · 30/11/2020 12:41

This sounds so awful for you. This is defiantly not normal behavior at all and he 100% has anger management issues. I should imagine quite frightening with children in the house as well.

It is worth talking to a family member outside of your household like his parents or brother or sister to help him understand and get him help. He firstly needs to recognize this is not normal or acceptable behavior. I expect he knows exactly what he is doing to be honest and he needs to get help or it will get worse.

Embracelife · 30/11/2020 12:54

Dont waste more time geting him help.
He has to do this.

If he doesnt want help his family or yours wont matter.

One more ultimatum and follow thru.

babybunny123 · 30/11/2020 13:40

Good god why would you want this man around you or your children?. You have said you will leave him but never do, your child already thinks it is normal behaviour which it clearly is not. Get rid asap.

alexdgr8 · 02/12/2020 20:10

of course your children have already noticed it, and been scared by it.
the fact that you say they might start to notice it, shows how off-beam your perceptions have become.
i think that may be a kind of survival instinct, to ignore how bad it is, otherwise you couldn't live with him any longer.
maybe you are now realising the way to live is not with him.
go to your parents. they sound good. get out. now. for your children's sake as much as yours.
and please. don't. tell. him. just go. take docs.

NovemberR · 02/12/2020 20:13

I don't know any grown up who smashes things in a rage.

And certainly not over a fucking game. He is childish, dangerous and I would kick him out. He's setting a piss poor example to the children.

Dragongirl10 · 02/12/2020 20:20

Leave op, this is not how you want your children to grow up.

KenAdams · 02/12/2020 21:36

Why haven't you left like you said?

You need to go. This isn't OK. What will you do if he hurts one of your children? It's not worth waiting until it gets to that stage. Pack up and go to your parents.

trixiebelden77 · 02/12/2020 22:14

It absolutely is aimed at you and the children.

It’s meant to be a threat.

He’s a danger to you and your children. He has already harmed them.

What are you going to do to protect them?

Nousernamehistory · 02/12/2020 22:35

Please read these replies carefully. You have a responsibility to your kids over everything else. The bottom line is they are not safe living with a violent, abusive man who thinks nothing of destroying things in outbursts. One day this will become less effective in giving him what he wants. I'm sure you are aware of what is likely to be next. And I say that as someone who tolerated a partner punching holes in walls, driving erratically and emergency stopping before I had a chance to belt up (bruised ribs and abdominal pain for days thanks to hitting the dashboard) and finally hitting me and pushing me to the ground. I'm well rid now but that will stay with me forever.

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