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Too fat for my husband to respect me

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FootballFacedOrang · 28/11/2020 22:44

Last night, somehow, the subject of my weight came up.

I told my husband I feel like he doesn't have any respect for me any more. It's hard to pinpoint. His general tone, lack of interest in anything I'm doing, undermining me in front of our 5yr old son. He just acts, quietly, like I'm something to be tolerated. Never celebrated, admired, or god forbid fancy.

I thought maybe I was being paranoid. No. Turns out my husband "can't have any respect for me when I don't have any respect for myself". By this he means that I am too fat (13 stone at 5 foot 6), don't get enough exercise and eat too much.

While he's right that I've not looked after myself as well as I should have done over the last five years, the fact that his respect for me is so conditional is hurtful.

I am studying at the moment. I got 87% for a piece of work this week. I'm dealing with lock down, which for me means seeing no one but my husband and 5 year old, not seeing my own family or friends for nearly a year, single handedly doing homeschooling + study ealier in the year. Now doing the vast majority of parenting, housework and cooking + my studies because I'm not out at work (my studies bring in as much more money as DHs pretty low paid job).

I should add that I had loads of massive surgery and a emergency hysterectomy when DS was born, so I was post baby, surgery, hysterectomy and menopause at 32. It's taken its toll.

I dunno. I agree that I should be healthier, but life isn't ideal and I am what I am. I don't think k that's a reason to respect me less. AIBU?

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HillaryWhitney · 30/11/2020 09:43

He's a cunt OP and my heart goes out to you. I am in the exact same situation but 10 years down the line with a man who thinks he deserves better than me due to me weight. The damage it has done to my mental health is irreversible and I am now an absolute mess of a person, riddled with addictions and self loathing.

Please please chuck this tosser our and take your life back. Don't be me.

ekidmxcl · 30/11/2020 09:50

What a nasty fucking bastard.
Lots of people with excess weight work their guts out looking after others and have themselves as bottom priority. And that’s how they get into this situation. To then see a person like this as valueless, having no respect for themselves etc is such utter bullshit. I’d consider getting rid of him. He’s not supporting you to lose weight, he’s making you feel worse.

Joswis · 30/11/2020 10:02

@FootballFacedOrang

I have lost some respect for him sadly.
Good. A person that can make their love conditional on only physical appearance doesn't deserve your respect.

He sounds very shallow. I know we all have residual beliefs from our families, but he sounds totally lacking in compassion. If his love for you is dependent on your weight, that isn't love. A horrible thing for me to say, but really. Imagine it was your child on the receiving end of that attitude.

I think you need to make clear for him that this attitude will break your marriage up. His response to that will show if there is any real love there.

unmarkedbythat · 30/11/2020 10:21

I would be understanding of my husband saying he found me less physically attractive after a weight change. But to tie his respect for me to my size and shape would mean he was not someone I wanted to be with.

VeniceQueen2004 · 30/11/2020 10:49

Wow your husband (and his family) sound hideously shallow and weak. What about this man do you love/respect? What attracts you to him?

I mean he's obviously a product of a very unhealthy and unsupportive environment. I wonder if at least part of his issue is shame about what his family think of your changed body, that his status is somehow diminished in their eyes because you have gained weight.

The lack of support he gave you when in recovery from a near-death and life-changing experience is heartbreaking. It can be explained away as some sort of emotional constipation but who cares really about the why - you were in need and he let you down badly. He made your difficult situation worse. He didn't help. He failed as a husband and as a friend and as a father. The shame of that is on him, but somehow in his mind he has justified it as being your fault. That is sick.

I think you should write him a letter. I bet there are particular events since your traumatic experience birthing your second child that stand out to you as particularly hurtful, particular things he's said and done recently that have hurt you. Itemise them. Be specific. SHOW him how he has failed and let you down. Don't justify or explain yourself. You nearly DIED bearing his child. You do everything at home whilst bringing in equal money and studying. YOU are not the one who is failing here, in any respect. Hold him to account.

Send him this letter with the request that he consider his behaviour and apologise for it and commit to change (in whatever way is important to you). If he won't do that, then you have a decision to make. I know it's not easy to leave, for many reasons; but at least you could withdraw your labour, your support, your company, your sexual availability - all the things he gets from you for nothing whilst disrespecting and abandoning you in the way.

Disengage from him outside the necessary. Focus on your needs, your studies and your children - the things that give you pride and pleasure. He will soon learn how it feels to be simply tolerated, and the blow to his ego will not be pleasant. I wouldn't bother trying to get him to pull his weight domestically; it's demeaning pleading with someone to do their fair share when they aren't willing to do it. Just sideline him. Don't do a stroke more work than you have to for your own and your children's benefit.

Do not let him put you down in front of your children - call him out on it calmly EVERY SINGLE TIME, and if he won't stop simply say 'Daddy is being very silly, let's go and play upstairs' or whatever. Don't entertain or excuse his behaviour.

He needs to understand your self worth is not contingent on his admiration, and that your love for him is contingent on him treating you well. It is not his just due. He needs to feel his own precarity. By undercontributing in almost every respect, he has left himself extremely vulnerable; what, really, do you need him for?

VeniceQueen2004 · 30/11/2020 10:56

And yes absolutely consider his potential impact with these attitudes on your kids. Imagine if your son isn't sporty, or your daughter isn't slim; imagine if they develop a chronic health issue e.g. asthma (very common) with medication that has knock on effects on their body shape or their energy levels or whatever? Will he still support and love and be proud of them? Based on what you say I doubt it very much.

FootballFacedOrang · 30/11/2020 10:59

Your last paragraph is very helpful. Thank you. I'm not sure about the letter. I think perhaps there's too much water under that bridge and bringing up old staff might detract from the reality of now. But I have resolved to concentrate on DS and me, and to stop allowing his opinion of me to affect my confidence. It's easier to disregard someone's opinion of you when you realise their opinion is bullshit.

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FootballFacedOrang · 30/11/2020 11:04

At the moment DS (we only have one, sorry if that wasn't clear) absolutely worships the ground my husband walks upon. They are best mates (not sure that's healthy personally). I fear that as DS gets older and necessarily develops interests and opinions different to his father's my husband will be 'hurt' and therefore reproachful. I've made him alert to this but he's not convinced. I might be wrong but I'll nip it absolutely in the bud and if he ever treats DS with scorn all he'll will break loose.

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KSST · 30/11/2020 11:30

I could have written this post myself just a couple of weeks ago. My husband had exactly the same conversation with me. (One that we've had a few times over the years.)
I know I'm an over weight, frumpy wife. He wants to be proud of me when we go out together. But I have struggled with my weight most of my life and I try so hard to exercise and eat healthily, but I just can't shift my weight. He is tall and slim and can eat anything he wants.

We agreed I would be really focused for a month and see if I could lose any, but a month is now up and I've not shifted a pound. We've agreed I should see someone about my lack of weight loss, but who do I see? There are so many fads, specialists, etc out there, but I want to find out why nothing seems to work for me.
I so want him to be proud of me and the way I look - and I want to be proud of myself - and buy clothes that look good on me.

My heart was broken when he told me how he was feeling - I felt that if it wasn't for our children, our relationship would be over. But I know I need to do something - not just for him but for myself. I just feel that nothing works, so what's the point?

HollyandIvyandallthingsYule · 30/11/2020 11:34

@KSST

I could have written this post myself just a couple of weeks ago. My husband had exactly the same conversation with me. (One that we've had a few times over the years.) I know I'm an over weight, frumpy wife. He wants to be proud of me when we go out together. But I have struggled with my weight most of my life and I try so hard to exercise and eat healthily, but I just can't shift my weight. He is tall and slim and can eat anything he wants. We agreed I would be really focused for a month and see if I could lose any, but a month is now up and I've not shifted a pound. We've agreed I should see someone about my lack of weight loss, but who do I see? There are so many fads, specialists, etc out there, but I want to find out why nothing seems to work for me. I so want him to be proud of me and the way I look - and I want to be proud of myself - and buy clothes that look good on me.

My heart was broken when he told me how he was feeling - I felt that if it wasn't for our children, our relationship would be over. But I know I need to do something - not just for him but for myself. I just feel that nothing works, so what's the point?

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Nanny0gg · 30/11/2020 13:01

@KSST

I could have written this post myself just a couple of weeks ago. My husband had exactly the same conversation with me. (One that we've had a few times over the years.) I know I'm an over weight, frumpy wife. He wants to be proud of me when we go out together. But I have struggled with my weight most of my life and I try so hard to exercise and eat healthily, but I just can't shift my weight. He is tall and slim and can eat anything he wants. We agreed I would be really focused for a month and see if I could lose any, but a month is now up and I've not shifted a pound. We've agreed I should see someone about my lack of weight loss, but who do I see? There are so many fads, specialists, etc out there, but I want to find out why nothing seems to work for me. I so want him to be proud of me and the way I look - and I want to be proud of myself - and buy clothes that look good on me.

My heart was broken when he told me how he was feeling - I felt that if it wasn't for our children, our relationship would be over. But I know I need to do something - not just for him but for myself. I just feel that nothing works, so what's the point?

Trick in these covid times, but if you genuinely feel there is a problem, talk to your doctor. It could be nothing, it could be thyroid it could be all sorts.

If you feel healthy irrespective of your weight you can still be proud of yourself.

Do you get your hair cut in style that suits you, regularly? Do you buy flattering clothes that fit? Do you care?
One of my friends has had her own issues with weight for years but always looks fabulous as she wears great clothes, and is beautifully groomed. She also has a fab personality and her husband (tall, slim, handsome) would walk over hot coals for her (and she, him)

Fluffycloudland77 · 30/11/2020 14:10

I’d see your gp too @KSST. Could well be a medical problem and if they’ve got a weight loss clinic they’d love to have to. The costs to the nhs for lifestyle exacerbated illnesses is already huge and it’s going up.

I’ve had a 17yo present with type 2 diabetes bought on by obesity.

Comtesse · 30/11/2020 14:37

It makes me want to weep - to lose weight or get more healthy for yourself is fine, brilliant even - but to make yourself LESS for the regard or respect of another (your closest person in the world) is just heartbreaking. No woman is an ornament, our purpose goes far beyond our appearance. To be fat is just to be fat, it’s not a moral failing.

AryaStarkWolf · 30/11/2020 14:45

That's really harsh OP, it sounds like you've been through an awful lots over the last couple of years, If I were you I'd sit him down and tell him exactly how you feel and how he's made you feel. Don't allow someone to treat you disrespectfully, you do not deserve that, it will eat away at your self esteem if you leave this go

Userme93 · 30/11/2020 14:52

He sounds like a complete a-hole!!! He should be worshipping the ground the walk on for bringing life into this world and for all you have gone through!!

I am the same height as you but weigh more. (I'm losing weight and even now weigh 13stone 9!!) My husband has never criticised my weight. (And he too is healthy, fit, hard physical job)

Yes you may feel healthier to lose a bit... But respect shouldn't be conditional of weight loss. I couldn't respect someone who bases respect upon weight!!!

TatianaBis · 30/11/2020 14:55

I’m not sure she should tell him how it makes her feel. If he cared about that he wouldn’t have said it. It may encourage him to say it more, if anything.

I think she should tell him how it makes her feel about him.

The real question is whether this relationship has any traction. Does he actually want to be with OP? Does OP want to live with someone doesn’t respect her indeed barely tolerates her?

It’s very hard to keep your self respect when you’re being treated like shit.

Ineedaduvetday · 01/12/2020 05:46

I fear that as DS gets older and necessarily develops interests and opinions different to his father's my husband will be 'hurt' and therefore reproachful.

I'd be more worried he was passing on his 'fat is disgusting' attitude.

MsTSwift · 01/12/2020 06:22

Thing is even if you lose weight and tone up (done this myself recently lost 2 stone it is doable and makes you feel great) you will age. That’s what would bother me about these men who place such huge weight on their wives looks.

greenspacesoverthere · 01/12/2020 06:57

I don't suppose this will be a popular pov and I mean no harm .... but we all have physical preferences.

I am sure your husband loves you but your shape has changed and you are no longer a shape he prefers.

We are all allowed choices.

Maybe he is trying to tell you this , by saying that in allowing your shape to change you aren't respecting your body. And ergo he can't respect you

It's horrible to hear criticism but it might be the words you need to help yourself become healthier?

mollscroll · 01/12/2020 07:04

Maybe he is trying to tell you this , by saying that in allowing your shape to change you aren't respecting your body. And ergo he can't respect you

She was surviving an emergency hysterectomy and premature menopause plus caring for a small child. How dare she not find ‘respecting her body’ top of her to do list during that time ? I wonder how DH has been respecting his brain all this while ...learning a new language, writing a novel, mastering mandarin? These men who don’t respect their brains - I just can’t respect them Hmm

Mimishimi · 01/12/2020 07:10

I'm not sure that it has anything to do with the weight as such. My husband has also been quite contemptuous of late - rolling his eyes at me and muttering stuff under his breath. The thing is - once that sort of behaviour starts and they don't even try to hide it- it has nothing to do with looks and everything with lack of respect. Good luck OP, looks like we will both need it.

scubadive · 01/12/2020 07:40

@FootballFacedOrang, hi op I just came across this thread and it made me so sad. Your DH sounds so much like my ex.

I was slim size 8-10 when we met, my thyroid packed up with my second pregnancy and I gained weight, 2 more children quickly followed. He refused to move where my family were who could have supported and helped me with 4 young children.

I had no help at all, no time to myself to exercise. He started to withdraw emotionally from me, (I later found out he had an affair when my youngest was 6 months old). I was sleep deprived which makes your body crave carbs and had no time for exercise although I did walk a lot. I cooked from scratch every day and looked after the children well.

He clearly lost respect for me because I was in my mumsy phase, he didn’t praise the good things I did. He would say I had my priorities wrong as Tge house was too messy,
I took the children out too much and if Only I stayed in and tidied a bit more.

He criticised while not supporting me to have any time to myself.

I was ill twice during these years and needed to go into hospital for a week each time, the first time I could have died. It was an inconvenience, he wasn’t kind. Like you his famiky were never I’ll.
I suffer with asthma and regular chest infections and his family used to sneer at me saying oh you are always I’ll, whilst they puffed in cigarettes. His mum then died very suddenly if lung cancer at 54, so whilst some people may appear healthy on the outside you never know what’s round the corner.

What gets me about your post, apart from the obvious unkindness and lack of appreciation for all your strengths is the arrogance of your DH, who is he to declare what priorities should be, who is he to say you are selfish because you put parenting and earning a living before losing weight.

I realise now tgat as the emotional cruelty from my DH went on, my self esteem went down and my comfort eating went up, leading to weight gain. I was desperate fir my 4 children to have a stable family life but the more I tried to please the more the balance of power in tge relationship slipped. Once I became a SAHM and stopped earning then I had no respect what so ever from him and he began to under,ine me more and more. It nearly destroyed me. He was the one who ended up walking out after 25 tears together in total, declaring I no longer made him happy. I had moved away from famil and friends and given up my career, I nearly lost my health too and was getting more and more frequent chest infections.
In March I lost my job (I was forced back to work as a single mum of 4 when he left as he refused to pay sufficient maintenance, he’s a high earner). I was desperately trying to keep the family home going for the children whilst my eldest took external exams.
I decide to finally take control, I have taken out a loan for solicitor fees, .i am taking him to court for maintenance payments, I have an interim order currently and miraculously I have lost 3 stone since March.

I am regaining my confidence and starting to feel like my old self. The point being that if someone is constantly criticising you and putting you down you are much more likely to over eat.

I look back now at pictures when The children were young and I looked fine, so what if I was a bit overweight for a few years whilst prioritising my children. It’s not important in the scheme of things, we have 4 fantastic healthy, happy children, that should have been enough.

Some men want trophy wives and are not interested in the real you and when you stop looking like a trophy they lose their ‘respect’. No they never had any respect or love, you are just a prize.

I am so sorry but please don’t stay in a relationship like this like I did. It nearly destroyed me and it has taken me 5 years since he walked out fir me to finally rebuild myself. Constant insidious criticism and bullying and emotional abuse can really take its toll on a person, even a very strong, confident person.

Good luck.

5zeds · 01/12/2020 07:41

Maybe he is trying to tell you this , by saying that in allowing your shape to change you aren't respecting your body. And ergo he can't respect you because her priority should be ensuring her husbands preferred body shape is maintained???Shock. Revolting

beavisandbutthead · 01/12/2020 07:51

scubadive good for you! I am rooting for you and hope you have a brilliant New Year. You deserve a good one

Iwonder08 · 01/12/2020 08:22

OP, it is hard to read.. Your DH is somehow incentive and ignorant. You do have medical reasons that triggered weight gain. Does he not understand that? Given he is your husband I would sit down and calmly explain what the operand inevitable hormones changes mean to your body.
On the other hand it is not entirely clear if you are happy with your weight yourself. If you do want to improve the situation why don't you use this opportunity to tell your husband you need more time for walking /swimming /gym/personal trainer/whatever else you might like and make sure he covers home&childcare for 2 hours 3 times a week?

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