Anybody else DISGUSTED at the anti lockdown protestors!?

[Duemarch2021]

It makes me so angry that people are protesting about lockdown... yes its frustrating but it's being done for a reason... to try and prevent as many deaths as there would be without a lockdown... they are selfishly spreading covid and yhe police have to put themselves out there and risk their lifes to stop the gatherings! 😠 What do they think will happen!? That government will say ok- ok you win... go wild, have fun and mingle lets just forget covid now!?.....Does this make anybody else absolutely fuming at the human race!!!?

So delighted that there is a lot of support for protesters on here. Was steeling myself for a high blood pressure attack! So many are taken in by the notion of lockdown will ease everything. Just look at Wales? A long lockdown over summer, bit of a relax, then a firebreak now another lockdown. Economy will really be fucked up big time. And then the bleeding hearts will say no government help. The government is broke! Need to get the economy moving, even if there is an increase in excess mortality, and with the prospect of a vaccine..... and I’m speaking as a ‘vulnerable’ person. Statistics show that average age of people succumbing to virus is 82.7 years. And even if you get virus in the 80’s, still much more likely to survive than end up in hospital (I think it’s about 25% chance hospitalisation according to ‘Telegraph’.

@Ylvamoon

I'm so sick of demands to end lockdown when it only protects " a few". As though their deaths don't matter that much. They do and the vulnerable are numbered in millions not "a few"

The same can be said for people who are not getting urgent treatments or people who have lost their job and very little chance of finding an other one...
There are many different groups of "vulnerable", only one seems to matter on MN.
The protesters are just a different type of vulnerable who need to ensure their voice is herd as well. Good for them.

What do you think happens to that urgent treatment when hospitals are full of covid?

And jobs if we allow exponential spread?

i too feel disgusted at the protesters, what is wrong with people, its partly due to them that this pandemic is lingering as long as it has, so so selfish, is it really too much to ask

They have a right to protest, if they wish. We live in a democratic country (allegedly)

Yeah Nothing to do with the Gov. giving responsibilities to people with no healthcare experience.

They need a handshake. I for one support them.

@VinylDetective

Would we really want family member or friend in need of urgent treatment for a non COVID case being told they have no beds available?

That’s exactly what’s happening. Increasing numbers of untreated cancers and cardiac conditions. Thousands of lives will be lost unnecessarily in years to come because of this. But apparently they don’t matter.

Agreed. Thousands of lives lost because of failure to contain Covid. Hospitals full, staff off sick or dead (the evening standard recently had a tribute to all the NHS workers in London who've died of Covid). Meanwhile in Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam - countries that took effective containment action - people are able to access medical care as normal.

No, the lockdowns and government are doing more harm than the virus. Good luck to the protestors!

Frankly, I'm glad that some people are standing up for liberties. I was speaking to a consultant recently who said that there will be a league of magnititude more deaths caused by the government reaction to Covid than there will be by Covid itself. It is a horrible illness, but there are a large number of medics and scientists who disagree with the measures and believe that the cure is worse than the disease. The measures have been inconsistent and in some cases, inhumane. I completely understand the severity of the illness, but I honestly believe that conflicting scientific opinion is being censored and silenced. Our children and grandchildren will be paying for this. I do what I can to be safe, hygienic and to help others. But by god, common sense seems to have sailed right out of the window on a gust of fear and irrationality. Of course people should be allowed to protest. End of rant.

I have mixed feelings. I went on some local BLM protests, I got slated by some people but social distancing wasn't bad and the vast majority wore masks. I can't speak for other BLM protests.

The problem with anti lockdown protests is they are talking some dangerous nonsense that may encourage people not to wear masks and break the rules.

I do worry Covid will mean the government make laws against protesting too tough when these laws aren't needed.

@earnshaw47

i too feel disgusted at the protesters, what is wrong with people, its partly due to them that this pandemic is lingering as long as it has, so so selfish, is it really too much to ask

Oh do stop churning out rubbish like this.

@earnshaw47

i too feel disgusted at the protesters, what is wrong with people, its partly due to them that this pandemic is lingering as long as it has, so so selfish, is it really too much to ask

Don't spout such bollocks.

@SheepandCow Nothing to say about Michael Goves plans then. Considering you are always reiterating that viruses move when people move. Why are you on the Corona board admonishing people for travelling a lot less of a distance when they say they are going to see their families but radio silence when it comes to one of the rule makers themselves.

@Userzzz thank you. I think I'm as baffled as you are, and why aren't more people wondering the same

[quote MercyBooth]@SheepandCow Nothing to say about Michael Goves plans then. Considering you are always reiterating that viruses move when people move. Why are you on the Corona board admonishing people for travelling a lot less of a distance when they say they are going to see their families but radio silence when it comes to one of the rule makers themselves.[/quote]
I haven't seen the news today, but I don't give a shit about Michael Gove.

I care about the vulnerable elderly and disabled and long-term ill who'll suffer. And the under pressure traumatised NHS workers and everybody who develops disabling Long Covid, and the long-term economic damage of Spread Covid.

Gove and all the other MPs and their advisers are guaranteed a hospital bed and prompt treatment (including expensive in shortage drugs like the regeneron ones given to Trump). The general public is not.

Oh, did I miss the protest? Damn. When is the next one?

I'm not a Covid denier, but it's so plainly obvious that the government has deliberately exaggerated the danger to monstrous proportions. It's not just about the highly damaging lockdown: it's about brainwashing, deliberate misreporting of figures, lying, and conning the public at every turn. "We can turn this virus around in twelve weeks". I'd actually have respected the government more if they had said at the time "we don't know how long this will last". The more recent "nine weeks of tiers" was probably decided by throwing a pair of dice. As others have said, the government has seized the opportunity to DELIBERATELY keep the public terrified, docile, compliant, and ready to accept whatever shit they throw our way in the future. Mark my words, unless there are protests, the emergency laws will be kept in place for LONG AFTER the pandemic is over (if the government ever declares it "over"), ready to be enacted on a future prime minister's whim. The government is loving the power that the virus has given them. One reason of many that the protesters are out there is an attempt to keep this in check.

I personally think there should have been riots in April: then, people were too terrified to see through the lies and spin. The way that the public accepted in one gulp these draconian dictats by bumbling Boris, without a shred of protest, was truly scary. This country turning into a dictatorship terrifies me MUCH more than the virus does. It is happening by stealth, and will continue to do if the public allows it. This is why the protests are happening, and rightly so.

The restrictions ordered by Uncle Boris affect the general public much more than they affect the wealthy Boris and his cronies: they're too rich to understand realities such as wondering where your next meal is coming from, when the Prime Minister has snatched away your job. No doubt he'll be telling us to "spend to save the High Street"; many people will be tightening their belts since Saint Boris snatched their jobs and businesses away.

Also, the fact that these protests are barely being reported speaks fucking VOLUMES. The government spin machine is alive and well. People hear in the news what the tinpot dictator WANTS them to hear. This is another thing people are protesting about.

Thanks @SheepandCow i got my answer

@wanderings

Oh, did I miss the protest? Damn. When is the next one?

I'm not a Covid denier, but it's so plainly obvious that the government has deliberately exaggerated the danger to monstrous proportions. It's not just about the highly damaging lockdown: it's about brainwashing, deliberate misreporting of figures, lying, and conning the public at every turn. "We can turn this virus around in twelve weeks". I'd actually have respected the government more if they had said at the time "we don't know how long this will last". The more recent "nine weeks of tiers" was probably decided by throwing a pair of dice. As others have said, the government has seized the opportunity to DELIBERATELY keep the public terrified, docile, compliant, and ready to accept whatever shit they throw our way in the future. Mark my words, unless there are protests, the emergency laws will be kept in place for LONG AFTER the pandemic is over (if the government ever declares it "over"), ready to be enacted on a future prime minister's whim. The government is loving the power that the virus has given them. One reason of many that the protesters are out there is an attempt to keep this in check.

I personally think there should have been riots in April: then, people were too terrified to see through the lies and spin. The way that the public accepted in one gulp these draconian dictats by bumbling Boris, without a shred of protest, was truly scary. This country turning into a dictatorship terrifies me MUCH more than the virus does. It is happening by stealth, and will continue to do if the public allows it. This is why the protests are happening, and rightly so.

The restrictions ordered by Uncle Boris affect the general public much more than they affect the wealthy Boris and his cronies: they're too rich to understand realities such as wondering where your next meal is coming from, when the Prime Minister has snatched away your job. No doubt he'll be telling us to "spend to save the High Street"; many people will be tightening their belts since Saint Boris snatched their jobs and businesses away.

Also, the fact that these protests are barely being reported speaks fucking VOLUMES. The government spin machine is alive and well. People hear in the news what the tinpot dictator WANTS them to hear. This is another thing people are protesting about.

Very VERY well said. I've been saying much the same for a long time now. Agree 100% with this.

No I am not disgusted with protesters standing up for what they believe in. Eat out to help out and buggering off on holiday after the first lockdown however... hmmmn 🤔

The government have been useless at managing this and the tier system is completely flawed. However the people going out to protest going totally against the rules are utter morons. Let's hope they don't take the virus home to their family...then again they'd try and blame the government for that too.

As a nation we are completely entitled. Other countries have far lower death rates thanks partly to a more efficient government and also due to having compliant citizens who don't just adopt this 'nobody is telling us what to do' mentality.

I totally sympathise with those who have suffered financial loss during this horrible time but going out and spreading the virus further isnt going to improve this.

No problem @MercyBooth
We might disagree on some things but I know we're in agreement that the government has absolutely buggered this all up!

The government have decided on the rules, and aren’t going to do a U turn just because a couple of thousand people take to the streets in protest. It’s just not going to happen. They’re just wasting their time and prolonging the shit show for the rest of us. But as they say, you can’t argue with stupid.

Just to add the government is woefully inadequate and I have nothing but contempt for them. So I don't advocate doing as were told all the time because this has been a shit show from start to finish. However we all need to use common sense and take personal responsibility too. We know how covid spreads. Getting thousands of people on the streets of London isn't going to help matters. All it's doing is putting more people at risk and placing extra pressure on an already overstretched NHS.

@Livelovebehappy

The government have decided on the rules, and aren’t going to do a U turn just because a couple of thousand people take to the streets in protest. It’s just not going to happen. They’re just wasting their time and prolonging the shit show for the rest of us. But as they say, you can’t argue with stupid.

No, you can’t, can you? This country is sleepwalking into one where individual rights and civil liberties are distant memories. Thank God some people care enough to protest.

@SheepandCow But what about the ppl Gove may infect IF he was incubating the virus. You not being concerned what he does makes no sense, Surely hes just as capable of passing a virus on as anyone.

So why are you dismissing it