Anybody else DISGUSTED at the anti lockdown protestors!?

[Duemarch2021]

It makes me so angry that people are protesting about lockdown... yes its frustrating but it's being done for a reason... to try and prevent as many deaths as there would be without a lockdown... they are selfishly spreading covid and yhe police have to put themselves out there and risk their lifes to stop the gatherings! 😠 What do they think will happen!? That government will say ok- ok you win... go wild, have fun and mingle lets just forget covid now!?.....Does this make anybody else absolutely fuming at the human race!!!?

Matt Hancock won't rule out compulsory vaxxing - it's all over the place news wise - unlike the 9 days of Danish protesting against compulsory vaxxing - not a peep there.

The country is being softened up for mandatory vaxxing - sorry, not mandatory - just you won't be able to travel or do your job or send your child to school.

I salute the protestors for upholding our civil liberties.

Newer links

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/16/matt-hancock-refuses-rule-making-covid-19-vaccine-mandatory/

www.thesun.co.uk/news/13218179/matt-hancock-refuses-rule-out-covid-vaccine-mandatory/

@Pinkyxx - it's not as easy as putting down my my " ... own needs or livelihood is more important than anyone's life, family, or future"
It's not just me, there are 1000's who are in the same boat. These people will need financial help from the state putting a huge burden on public finances.
Re training sounds fantastic if these opportunities are actually available, as they cost money and time. In the meantime, we are loosing our home as per the benefits system a) my partner should support me and b) I only qualify for housing help once I have lost my current mortgaged home.

Yabu. Maybe all the people demanding lockdown can pay for it. £16k per household so far apparently.

I don't agree with them. I'm following all the rules. Haven't broken a single one. I wouldn't be out there myself, but they have the right to protest, and I'm very glad they have that right.

If you decide not to vaccinate you put other people in danger, hardly surprising if there are restrictions on those who don't give a fuck about protecting others. It should be mandatory for those who work with the vulnerable. But they won't say no anyway because they aren't that daft.

I can think of no good reason, allergies aside, why any sane person would say no to the vaccine.

The conspiracy loons are about their usual scaremongering but, sadly, the not very bright are being sucked in to their lunacy.

I am disgusted with the groups of teens outside the local shops daily at this time.

No masks, no distancing, abuse if you say anything. They will not move out of the way and you have to wave through them.

Worry about what your own dirty kids are doing.

Before you say mine would never... cut the crap. They behave very differently when you're not looking

@MadinMarch You do realize that it will be the NHS treating the illnesses caused by the poverty that will ensue from all this? Are you really expecting families to make themselves homeless to protect the NHS? WOW just WOW! I was watching a programme last Thursday that compared Covid to the Spanish flu. The spread was exacerbated in both cases by travel. The latter by sea and Covid by AIR TRAVEL. I havent been abroad since 1986 NINETEEN EIGHTY SIX!!!!!! Oh it hasnt escaped my notice that the blame is being passed to poorer communities for the spread of Covid. And im willing to bet it hasnt escaped the notice of the protesters either. But instead of doing some proper investigative journalism the MSM would rather label them all as anti maskers. Labelling a group of working class people as something they arent (now where have i seen that before) and lumping them in with the anti maskers to shut them up.

Incidentally im child free by choice. So i have no children to worry about. I DO have a DH with COPD however. The common cold can be dangerous to him but i dont remember people offering to mask up pre Covid. I dont remember as much concern over people losing their disability benefits either and dying as a result and/or being admitted to HOSPITAL. Thus putting pressure on the NHS. Ive never voted Tory either.
Never voted Tory and havent been abroad on holiday since the 1980s. My conscience is clear.

Were you as disgusted at the other protests earlier in the year?

The yabu/yanbu vote balance on this is very interesting. But no, I'm not outraged by the anti-lockdown protests. Lockdowns are just heaping more misery on people and adding to a massive bill that will have to be paid. I don't support it.

I'm not at all angry, and fully support their right to protest. The lockdown issue is highly contentious, I'll be a damn sight more bothered if we are ever prevented from doing it.

I'm happy they're protesting. I am so sick of people moaning about it and moaning at me for following the rules. I've said for a while if people feel that strongly then protest, come together and do something about it. The right to protest is important whether I agree with their opinions or not

If the government had done things correctly in the first place, none of this on-going shit show would be happening. People are being kept locked up, people's mental health is plummeting, domestic violence cases are at unprecedented levels, people have lost their jobs and livelihoods all because of the incompetence of the government.

@Sushirolls

YABU .. I would have been with them, if I didn't have to work. People need to wake up and stand up for their rights.

Stand up for the right to do what? Spread Covid? You're an idiot.

@crossstitchingnana earn a living maybe?? Pay their bills? Fucking hell, the irony of someone that ignorant calling anyone else an idiot.

I think good for them! Truly is time for lockdown to end now. People want normal life to resume and I for one support them.

@MercyBooth
Eh? Where did I say or imply that I'm expecting families to make themselves homeless to protect the NHS? Your 'WOW just WOW' comments are unnecessarily dramatic and misplaced as I never said anything of the sort.
My point was that if everyone 'puts their family first'as you stated, and doesn't think of the needs of 'strangers' the virus could easily become so rampant that there isn't the staff or the NHS service to treat anyone who falls ill with Covid or anything else, (regardless of whether they're poor or not).
As it happens, I also have COPD. I wouldn't expect people to mask up pre covid due to the common cold although I certainly agree that it can cause an exacerbation of COPD, but it's more likely that we could at least access hospital care if needed, in non Covid times. Covid is a much bigger threat to COPD sufferers, especially if it turns out that we can't access treatment from the NHS because the service has been overwhelmed because so many of the public have decided not to follow basic guidelines and broken them to 'put their family first'.
I'm not sure why you not travelling abroad since 1986 is relevant to Covid at all.
For what it's worth, I've never voted Tory either, and never will, and believe that they have mismanaged this pandemic in every way.

@InFiveMins

I think good for them! Truly is time for lockdown to end now. People want normal life to resume and I for one support them.

How can normal life resume when there's a deadly virus in the community? Pretending it's gone away and we can all go back to normal is beyond stupid.

I would prefer the protesters to be interned.

It would make me very happy.

Good for them - some early reports - apparently Trafalgar Square was full and holds around 25-30,000 and there was another 10 thousand at Hyde park. Not that you'd know with the decline in proper journalism since the lockdown - it's almost like they don't want people to know how big the protests are And almost zero coverage of the protests in France and Denmark. I fully support their right to protest and I am disgusted at the lack of coverage from newspapers like the Guardian

@ILoveYoga

In normal times, without a world wide pandemic, peaceful protests should be allowed. Peaceful protest

However, during a pandemic it’s the most selfish, arrogant #%^#}. ,#}~>% shit thing to do. I feel as though they’re spitting on the graves of all those NHS people who died of covid who caught it trying to save the lives of the public. Totally disgusting

All these people should be locked up together for 2 weeks, at their own cost with not a pence from public funds, and given no medical treatment for covid.

Not exactly very Namaste of you is it yoga how will you prove they caught it then? Do you then advocate that anyone who catches covid must have been doing something against the rules to be close enough to catch it or not wearing the correct ppe? (Of course l don't believe this myself!!)

My point was that if everyone 'puts their family first'as you stated, and doesn't think of the needs of 'strangers' the virus could easily become so rampant that there isn't the staff or the NHS service to treat anyone who falls ill with Covid or anything else, (regardless of whether they're poor or not).

Strangers can't stop your house from being repossessed because you can't pay your mortgage, can they? Fuck the 'greater good' - they won't pay your bills.

The people so keen on lockdowns and smugly witter on about caring about others are always the ones who aren’t financially affected, surprise, surprise.

This. What's the betting OP has a nice, safe, public sector job or been comfortably furloughed for the last 6 months, owns their own home outright and has no major financial worries. Yet apparently everyone else is "selfish" for wanting the same security.

Exactly If the amount of homeless people soar that will put pressure on the NHS too. These lockdowns are delaying an NHS collapse not preventing one.

@G3orgeOrwell exactly. We're at the cushty end (WFH, reasonably secure jobs) but find it infuriating how those insulated from the worst effects can lecture from on high, and have the nerve to label others idiots or selfish.
I'd love to ask all these lockdown lovers - if it left YOU destitute, would you still be in favour? We all know the answer.

Just to balance things, I'm lucky enough to have been working throughout but lockdown 2.0 is pure insanity.

You're right @MercyBooth. Protecting the NHS also involves generating enough tax revenue to keep it going. At this rate, Boris will have achieved his goal of killing it off and turning our healthcare system to an American profit based abomination.

Unfortunately people who are pro lockdown don't seem to understand that people who don't have covid shouldn't be forced to shut up shop and stay indoors. There's a pretty simple way to separate those affected from those who aren't. Effective and functional track and trace allied with a proper mass testing campaign.

Lockdown is just papering over the fact that it's a total failure.