AIBU to ask if anyone here still thinks Brexit is a good idea?

[Sundiamond]

There was a time when the board was alive with argument around Brexit.

Does anyone still believe that Brexit is a good move and we, as a country, will gain more than we will lose?

I'd genuinely like to hear arguments for how Brexit is going to benefit anyone other than the US and disaster capitalists. It just seems to me to be one huge and terrible act of self harm and I am very worried for the future.

Buys popcorn

I predict that those who support/supported Brexit are unlikely to comment.

@ArabellaScott, I totally agree.

And I also agree @Nosswith - I doubt anyone supporting Brexit would have the balls to comment openly now

Don’t forget the little festival🤢and the fact that the cost of leaving is higher than the cost of Covid.

And the country is already on its knees economically..

There were potentially a couple of reasons I could understand - the fisheries and protecting our marine protected areas from fishing by other EU countries, for example. But as far as I'm aware these benefits are no longer going to apply. So I can't see a single benefit.

On then other hand, we're expecting food shortages, a crisis in staffing, much more hassle when we wish to travel, a rise in the cost of living ...

Any positives to set against this? Any at all?

I'm not sentimental about the EU, I just think this is going to be a massive chaotic upheaval with absolutely no discernable upside.

I hate it, didn't vote for it and can't see ANY benefits at all.

Mid pandemic is the perfect time to crash out of the EU! I mean what could possibly go wrong.....oh wait 🤦‍♀️

I voted remain and would again, but thats for philosophical and emotional reasons.

Concretely I think the uk will be fine

No, but I never thought it was a good idea in the first place.

I read a story in a Kent newspaper yesterday and loads of the below the line commenters were still apparently Brexit supporters. They just think any negative stories are Remainer lies.

I can't believe that anyone in Kent is still deluding themselves - Kent of all places!

What do they think the benefits will be, though?

I'm concerned it will lead to a rise in racism. A relative is a Labour councillor in an area with a large Bangladeshi community. They voted Leave in high numbers and told her it was because if fewer people from EU took the hospitality jobs, then more jobs would be available for people from their countries. Given some Brexiteers' views about "furriners taking our jobs", I can't imagine they're going to welcome more foreigners who are non-white. And the reaction might not be pretty

A lot of brexit voters WERE racist (not ALL I know) .... They thought it would stop non white people entering the UK. Some believed it meant UK would be solely white the day after referendum. I'm a firm passionate remainer and have heard these views too many times.

They were so misguided, they didn't realise that so many BAME folk are as British as they are...

It's a bloody brilliant idea to show people how propaganda works.

There are some ways it could work out well. I read an article recently, (I think it may have been in the Guardian but I can't find it now) which said that it could mean that a lot of manufacturing could be bought back to the UK to save on tarrifs etc. This would mean more jobs and controls over manufacturing methods. Could also create opportunities for our young, home grown designers as well if other countries don't want to sell us their products.

Who knows.

It will fail if only because we have one of the most incompetent governments in recent history.

@ArabellaScott

What do they think the benefits will be, though?

Less of us (see my username)

I know quite a few people who took the bag of jobs they stole and the bag of dole they stole and left back to mainland. One issue is some of them also took the bag of jobs they created which they were quite sad about

YABU to encourage them. There are no good reasons, there never were but the zealots don't care.
I do wish they would volunteer to lose their jobs/incomes in place of those who will be destroyed by Brexit, but sadly we can't have that amount of justice in this life.

it could mean that a lot of manufacturing could be bought back to the UK to save on tarrifs etc. This would mean more jobs and controls over manufacturing methods

Manufacturers are moving overseas to keep their JIT supply chains working. Rolls Royce being a prime example. We don't have the resources to entirely manufacture goods here, and manufacturing solely for one country is highly inefficient cost wise.

I think it'll result in the breakup of the UK.

In NI we are facing prospective food shortages with the custom ports in the Irish sea.

We share a border with the Republic so how does freedom of movement work?

Approximately half of the population of NI, including myself, hold Irish Passports. Are we still EU citizens?

It's a colossal fuck up.

I think Scotland will get IndyRef2 and they'll leave too. Both countries will get special dispensation from the EU.

I don’t know why Brexiters aren’t volunteering to give up their jobs, reduce food intake etc. They’re the ones who said it was a price worth paying.

@AlexaShutUp

No, but I never thought it was a good idea in the first place.

Same here.

@ConcernedAuntie

There are some ways it could work out well. I read an article recently, (I think it may have been in the Guardian but I can't find it now) which said that it could mean that a lot of manufacturing could be bought back to the UK to save on tarrifs etc. This would mean more jobs and controls over manufacturing methods. Could also create opportunities for our young, home grown designers as well if other countries don't want to sell us their products.

Who knows.

smallbusinessprices.co.uk/brexit-index/

Almost half a million jobs lost due to Brexit (Pre Covid).

How many factories such as Nissan have closed down and relocated due to Brexit?

The North East have been royally fucked over, why did the working class people in Sunderland etc ever think the likes of Boris Johnson and Jacob Rhys Mogg were ever going to have their best interests at heart.

Modern day economic oppression.