AIBU to ask if anyone here still thinks Brexit is a good idea?

[Sundiamond]

There was a time when the board was alive with argument around Brexit.

Does anyone still believe that Brexit is a good move and we, as a country, will gain more than we will lose?

Hmm. I'd dispute the better trade conditions for much of Africa because of the EU policy of waiving tariffs for the poorest country on earth, unless they are engaged with arms trade etc, but will admit to being hazy on the detail of the CAP.

With regard trade with poorer countries I assume the UK will drop out of the EUs EBA agreement? I don't think Brexit will be a positive for trade with poor countries.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_but_Arms

[quote KenDodd]With regard trade with poorer countries I assume the UK will drop out of the EUs EBA agreement? I don't think Brexit will be a positive for trade with poor countries.

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Not to mention our Brexiteer Government deciding to cut international aid last week. They have zero interest in helping poor people here or abroad.

I agree those government ads are ridiculous, at work we've been trying to work out various things and how to prepare and no-one knows really with the lack of any plan or guidance from the government. It really worries me tbh the whole thing. If there had been a thought out plan I'd feel differently even if I didn't agree.

Have businesses been preparing for the likelihood of no deal ie figuring out what documentation and red tape they need to deal with from January?

The EU is on the way out, just like every other attempt to unify Europe in history. It won't even have lasted the longest. We just jumped ship first. Change is always hard but I don't see any benefits at all to being in the EU. I'd vote Leave again and my vote had nothing to do with racism, xenophobia or any of the other tropes that got thrown out. I love Europe, love Europeans, just don't see the benefit in the EU.

They seem to have been quite good at keeping the peace in Europe.

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"just don't see the benefit in the EU"

Yeah yeah. Blah blah.

The EU is on the way out, just like every other attempt to unify Europe in history. It won't even have lasted the longest. We just jumped ship first

You know you sound like someone forced to leave a party early pretending that no-one is going to have any fun there? In reality, UK leaves, the rest of us carry on doing really well in the EU. We fucking LOVE the EU and have no intention of it ending.

@GirlsBlouse17

Have businesses been preparing for the likelihood of no deal ie figuring out what documentation and red tape they need to deal with from January?

I went on to check the implications for mine and was met with the following:

"Until negotiations with the EU conclude, there will be some areas without complete certainty, but full guidance will be provided by the end of the transition period."

So that's really useful to prepare.

I went on to check the implications for mine and was met with the following

Until negotiations with the EU conclude, there will be some areas without complete certainty, but full guidance will be provided by the end of the transition period

So that's really useful to prepare

That's shocking. Surely they could have provided full information about what needs doing in the event of no deal. Would a customs agent be able to advise or your suppliers/customers in the EU be able to tell you what they require?

Is this of any use?

www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-import-and-export-goods-between-great-britain-and-the-eu-from-1-january-2021

@MyNameIsArthur

I went on to check the implications for mine and was met with the following

Until negotiations with the EU conclude, there will be some areas without complete certainty, but full guidance will be provided by the end of the transition period

So that's really useful to prepare

That's shocking. Surely they could have provided full information about what needs doing in the event of no deal. Would a customs agent be able to advise or your suppliers/customers in the EU be able to tell you what they require?

Well it's my husband's business.

We order things from a company in England however, they are originally sourced from an EU country and we are in NI.

So as you can imagine, it's going to be fun waiting on that conundrum to play out.

Lots of newspapers today are reporting that hauliers from the EU are going to refuse to move goods to U.K. as they will lose money whilst stuck queuing in Kent so it’s not worth taking the job on. DP’s business won’t be directly affected but it may be indirectly affected depending on whether his suppliers can source stock. What a horrible mess this is turning out to be, just as we predicted. I don’t know how Johnson sleeps at night to be honest, after gaslighting and can-kicking for so long knowing that his lies are soon going to be laid bare. It made me laugh this week that they are so desperate to land an actual Brexit benefit that they tried to lie and say fast vaccine approval was due to Brexit. If that’s seriously the best they’ve got then we are truly fucked.

It made me laugh this week that they are so desperate to land an actual Brexit benefit that they tried to lie and say fast vaccine approval was due to Brexit. If that’s seriously the best they’ve got then we are truly fucked

As things stand it is and we are.

I was listening to the breakfast presenter on LBC this morning and he was arguing that fishing isn’t really that important at only 1.something% of the economy and only approximately 24k jobs so we should just sign over fishing rights to get a/any deal through.

can you imagine that stance been taken by your average leave supporter or their corresponding media pre-referendum? It certainly doesn’t feel like we’re taking back control of anything right now.

Well it's my husband's business

We order things from a company in England however, they are originally sourced from an EU country and we are in NI

So as you can imagine, it's going to be fun waiting on that conundrum to play out

Has the company that supplies your husbands company said what it is doing or done to secure future supplies from the EU?

@ItWasTheBestOfTimes

Lots of newspapers today are reporting that hauliers from the EU are going to refuse to move goods to U.K. as they will lose money whilst stuck queuing in Kent so it’s not worth taking the job on. DP’s business won’t be directly affected but it may be indirectly affected depending on whether his suppliers can source stock. What a horrible mess this is turning out to be, just as we predicted. I don’t know how Johnson sleeps at night to be honest, after gaslighting and can-kicking for so long knowing that his lies are soon going to be laid bare. It made me laugh this week that they are so desperate to land an actual Brexit benefit that they tried to lie and say fast vaccine approval was due to Brexit. If that’s seriously the best they’ve got then we are truly fucked.

Oh yes we are. We are now going to have the worst of times. Love your username btw.

Congratulations all those dingbats on here who still cling on to the nonsense

Of course the EU's not on the way out. There's no evidence for that at all. I remember all the braying about the so-called 'domino effect', the belief that Brexit would trigger loads of other countries to up and leave. So far nobody else is showing the remotest interest in doing so.

Have always thought it was a shit idea, nothing has changed.

I reckon it will be more damaging than Covid tbh with the added shitfest we brought it on ourselves

What a shower of fuckwits we are

I don’t know how Johnson sleeps at night to be honest

I bet he sleeps like a baby without a care in the world knowing whatever happens, he will be absolutely fine.

What pisses me off more though is that he knows, whatever happens, no matter how bad it gets, the people who voted for this will NEVER blame him or Brexit for the tsunami of shit they unleashed. They will blame everyone and anything else. The psychology behind it is really interesting.

@bathsh3ba

The EU is on the way out, just like every other attempt to unify Europe in history. It won't even have lasted the longest. We just jumped ship first. Change is always hard but I don't see any benefits at all to being in the EU. I'd vote Leave again and my vote had nothing to do with racism, xenophobia or any of the other tropes that got thrown out. I love Europe, love Europeans, just don't see the benefit in the EU.

So you enabled a bunch of racist posh boys, who have no interest in you or our collective well-being. Well done, hope you feel really good about that.

the people who voted for this will NEVER blame him or Brexit for the tsunami of shit they unleashed

I’m not sure, the way this oven ready deal has been presented, people will just expect things to just carry on. When they don’t is when it gets interesting.

Well I do hope so, I do really hope the people who voted for this turn on the liars and cheats who sold it to them.