AIBU to ask if anyone here still thinks Brexit is a good idea?

[Sundiamond]

There was a time when the board was alive with argument around Brexit.

Does anyone still believe that Brexit is a good move and we, as a country, will gain more than we will lose?

@ArabellaScott

Oh, sorry, you don't want to explain. Okay, then.

They can't explain. There is no rational explanation. It is a common tactic, tell us they voted leave because, well because. And then say they are not going to explain to stupid remainers because don't ya know they've spent agggggeeeeessss explaining it to us and we are just so mean to them.

This is spilt milk, no we do not know what the future holds, but so excited to see and have this happen in our life time.
Thank you David Cameron.

Yes you abu because the decision is made and there are loads of posts like this. It won't change anything learn to accept it

it could mean that a lot of manufacturing could be bought back to the UK to save on tarrifs etc. This would mean more jobs and controls over manufacturing methods. Could also create opportunities for our young, home grown designers as well if other countries don't want to sell us their products.

This is pie in the sky. We're not big or skills- and resource-rich enough to match the current rates and quality of manufacturing we're, as consumers, used to.

To be fair it has been explained many many many times. Each time the explanations are met with claims by Remainers that they ‘can’t understand the logic’ or that the Brexit supporter is ‘stupid or racist’ or even that the Remain supporter doesn’t care about those reasons (with the implication that they therefore don’t matter). If you genuinely want to understand the reasons that the Brexit vote was so popular the answers are definitely out there. If you just want to name-call, I think you’re too late but you can relive the glory days on the Brexit thread.

If you genuinely want to understand the reasons that the Brexit vote was so popular the answers are definitely out there
Bread and Circuses

but 4 and a half years later
the UK has still not decided what Brexit will actually look like
which would be useful
as the Transition period ends in a matter of days

Personally I’m pretty happy. I think it will be a shit storm initially and settle down eventually. If you look at this country’s history it was constantly in flux in terms of government and rule. Times are cyclic. It’s another cycle.

we do not know what the future holds, but so excited

So - you have no explanation for why we have voted to Leave, nor what will happen once we do?

Voted leave and tactically voted in all relevant elections to ensure Brexit would happen.

I’ve explained my views on most of the other thousand threads on this topic.

Still support Brexit.

the answers are definitely out there

Just - nobody wants to or is able to give any here, on this thread?

Bloomberg estimates Brexit will have cost the UK tax payer 200 billion by the end of the year. Artical in the daily Express no less.
www.google.com/search?client=tablet-android-samsung&sxsrf=ALeKk00NWqj6xLO1viDotfvJYRjaypoVLA:1606584418595&q=how+much+has+brexit+cost&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjbo8ms4aXt

I don't know of any credible sources saying we are better of economically out of the EU.
It strips us of FOM across Europe, our young people will be the only major nation NOT to enjoy those rights.
It rips up an international peace treaty.

And yet Brexit voters still love it. There seems to be absolutely no price they're not willing for us all to have to pay for it. So in answer to your question op, yes, loads of people think all of the above is a great idea.

On the plus side, there are clearly some happy Brexiteers! Phew!
If we are going to impoverish the country, break up the union and piss off our nearest trade partners, I am glad to see someone's happy about it, aside from the disaster capitalists.

What a waste, otherwise.

I still have not been told what to expect in return - that Japanese trade deal, for example, is worse than the one we had before.

It won't change anything learn to accept it
No I won't accept it. I will keep calling out all the lies and false promises and I'll campaign to rejoin.

If you genuinely want to understand the reasons that the Brexit vote was so popular the answers are definitely out there

I don’t care about reasons at this point, we’re way past the stage of ‘hopes and dreams’. I want to know exactly how leave is going to deliver anything positive. I don’t want mine and my children’s lives shat all over so would be perfectly happy to be proved wrong.

It’s fascinating watching an internet meme play out in real life though:

Step 1: leave the EU
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Profit

Even Trump managed to articulate a plan to build a wall. Brexit - nada.

Sundiamond
There was a time when the board was alive with argument around Brexit.

There has never been a time when the board was alive with argument around Brexit.

There has been plenty of name calling and refusal to here any PoV other than Brexit is bad.

Its just the same names saying the same things over and over again.

Oh and as for 'get behind Brexit' and other such bollocks, no, I'm not going to stand and cheer while you piss all over my kids future and jeopardise a very hard won peace.

If the economy is booming by 2022 and we've made up all the ground lost, FOM is restored to us and the peace is maintained in NI with no more deaths I will very sincerely apologise and admit I was wrong and you were right.

There has never been a time when the board was alive with argument around Brexit.

there never was. ive discussed politics with all kinds of people- never have i discussed politics with people as inarticulate and ill-informed as brexitteers..

"yawn. im excited about it-cant say why. i think its great. cant say why. it will be great for manufacturing-cant say why. i feel its great etc etc"

its been eye-opening. they actually do think saying things like 'it wont be the end of the world' constitutes a good reason to brexit

there never was. ive discussed politics with all kinds of people- never have i discussed politics with people as inarticulate and ill-informed as brexitteers..

From the responses on this board its going to be hard to have a discussion when the response is you are thick or you are racist.

Very few on MN (on either side) have come out if this looking like clearly informed intelligent intellectuals.

Most on the brexit side stopped trying to have a discussion very early on.
Most on the remainer side just kept name calling.

I voted leave. And still happy with us progressing towards Brexit. It’s a done deal, people have to find a way of coping with their negative emotions on the subject, because all the wailing in the world is not going to stop it. Why don’t people who have a problem with it get involved with the opposing groups who are putting forward their concerns? There are compromises to be made to help make some of the consequences of leaving more palatable, like some Tories who voted remain are still contributing towards discussions and deals. Everyone needs to pull together.

There are compromises to be made to help make some of the consequences of leaving more palatable
Why would someone knowingly vote for something with unpalatable consequences?

And still happy with us progressing towards Brexit.
Brexit happened months ago.

Its all about the trade deals now
and there seems to be very little progress on them

There are compromises to be made to help make some of the consequences of leaving more palatable
Such as ?

Terrible idea. My cupboards and freezer are full. I’m ready to hibernate while it falls apart.

No
No
No
Especially in the middle of the shitshow we're already enduring 😠