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To think that Charles and Camila are actually an example of genuine love

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Noddyandbiggerears · 25/11/2020 21:58

Yes of course I feel sorry for Diana. Yes I think being a royal has a huge impact. But they let young and are now still together and seemingly happy in their 70’s, despite a lot of shunning, negative press, etc.

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WitchesSpelleas · 26/11/2020 07:20

Amazing how many people seem to think 'The Crown' is a history lesson. Grin

It's a drama.

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 26/11/2020 07:22

Totally off topic but I wonder is Prince Phillip will get a card off the queen when he turns 100 🤔😂

Housewife2010 · 26/11/2020 07:28

@Pixxie7

If it wasn’t for the laws regarding divorcees that would have been married long before Diana was on the scene. She was a pawn in the game.
But Camilla didn't want to marry Charles. She was in love with Andrew Parker Bowles.
tara66 · 26/11/2020 07:32

Haven't read many PPs but I can never forget the tampon phone conversation where Charles told her he wishes he was one! Not very romantic!

LITHIUMcomeasUare · 26/11/2020 07:49

They appear very suited. Diana wasn't suited at all. The marriage would never have lasted regardless of the affair between C and C. Diana was very unstable mentally - suicide attempts/tantrums and not all down to her husband being drawn to another woman. D was very manipulative. Spiteful and disrupted a number of relationships with others - think of some of the men she sought affairs/had affairs with - some married/with others.

They learnt lots of lessons with the whole saga hence the children marry who they want and can make their own choices.

derxa · 26/11/2020 07:56

Camilla is a very clever woman but not a particularly nice one I believe.
She and Charles were great devotees of fox hunting and were forced to give it up for PR reasons.

EdithWeston · 26/11/2020 07:57

@AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii

Totally off topic but I wonder is Prince Phillip will get a card off the queen when he turns 100 🤔😂
Yes - she sent one to HMQM. It was covered by the press at the time
EdithWeston · 26/11/2020 08:00

@Pixxie7

If it wasn’t for the laws regarding divorcees that would have been married long before Diana was on the scene. She was a pawn in the game.
I doubt that - she wasn't the only, or necessarily the most favoured - mistress at the time.

The airbrushing of the other main one began with the 'three of us' comment. But at the start of the marriage there were at least 4

Agree that it does sometimes seem as if people are confusing The Crown with a history lesson

Roussette · 26/11/2020 08:09

If I was to hold up a couple as 'genuinely in love' and how wonderful, it would not be them! Come on... they are the result of cheating on their partners, it's hardly a good start is it?
Yes, they've stuck together, but we don't know what sort of marriage it's like, we haven't a clue. They might lead totally seperate lives for all we know.
Same as you don't know about my 34yr marriage.

There's loads of famous couples out there who've stood the test of time... over 40 years some of them. And they didn't start their relationship on the back of an affair with each other whilst married.

sneakysnoopysniper · 26/11/2020 08:20

When Charles first met Camilla he was told that she was not "suitable" as she had a past and was not grand enough. If he had had the backbone when he was younger to stand up to his family and the stuffy courtiers say "This is the woman I love and the only one I will marry" things may have gone very differently. To give him credit he did finally do that in later life but they might have had years of happiness together.

WB205020 · 26/11/2020 08:31

Charles had no choice. It was marry Diana or give up the throne. If it were today it would be a non issue. Look and William and Kate. That wouldn’t have been allowed to happen 40 years ago as Kate is a commoner.

I few very sorry for Diana but Charles also. His true love was and always has been camilla.

Housewife2010 · 26/11/2020 08:35

@WB205020

Charles had no choice. It was marry Diana or give up the throne. If it were today it would be a non issue. Look and William and Kate. That wouldn’t have been allowed to happen 40 years ago as Kate is a commoner.

I few very sorry for Diana but Charles also. His true love was and always has been camilla.

It wasn't marry Diana or give up the throne. What ridiculousness is this? He was 32 and the Queen was expected to rule for years. Diana wasn't the only unsullied aristocrat around.
sashagabadon · 26/11/2020 08:39

Yes I agree. It’s a shame they couldn’t/ didn’t marry when they were younger, but then William wouldn’t exist, neither would George, Charlotte, Louis and I like Kate too.
It would be interesting to imagine a scenario now where they had married. What would be different, what would be the same?

Gobbycop · 26/11/2020 08:40

Well it's certainly lasting.

Joswis · 26/11/2020 08:44

I really don't care about them. The ONLY opinion I have about both of them is that they hurt a much younger woman so much that they led to her death.

NOT a nice pair. Certainly not royal material, like the queen, although I am not a monachist at all.

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Noddyandbiggerears · 26/11/2020 08:47

For those saying “well they had to get married after all that” I really don’t think this was the case. I’m sure the RF would have preferred if Camilla and Charles had gone their separate ways. IIRC the Queen wouldn’t go to events where CPB would be there.

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WokesFromHome · 26/11/2020 08:55

It's a good job they didn't marry originally. Our royal family are bad enough, imagine having Tom Parker Bowles as heir to the throne. All that money and opportunity and the most he makes of his life is to eat out for free and make comments on it. I don't know why Masterchef humour him.

At least William and Kate will make a good King and Queen. If you skip Charles I'm happy for them to stay otherwise I will join any Republican Party that starts up.

GreenlandTheMovie · 26/11/2020 08:58

What happened to Dale Tryon was very odd. Did PC just quietly cut her off when she started to go off the rails, or was she never as serious a mistress as she liked to make out?

sashagabadon · 26/11/2020 08:58

@WokesFromHome

It's a good job they didn't marry originally. Our royal family are bad enough, imagine having Tom Parker Bowles as heir to the throne. All that money and opportunity and the most he makes of his life is to eat out for free and make comments on it. I don't know why Masterchef humour him.

At least William and Kate will make a good King and Queen. If you skip Charles I'm happy for them to stay otherwise I will join any Republican Party that starts up.

But Tom Parkes Bowles wouldn’t exist as a child of Charles and Camilla. It would be a completely different child/ children altogether
Emmapeeler2 · 26/11/2020 09:06

they hurt a much younger woman so much that they led to her death

Bit unfair. For making her marriage unhappy, yes.

Housewife2010 · 26/11/2020 09:06

@Joswis

I really don't care about them. The ONLY opinion I have about both of them is that they hurt a much younger woman so much that they led to her death.

NOT a nice pair. Certainly not royal material, like the queen, although I am not a monachist at all.

Charles and Camilla can hardly be blamed for Diana's death. Did they force her to go out with Dodi, get in.a car with a drunk driver and not wear her seatbelt? It was a tragic accident but they can hardly be blamed.
PrincessNutNut · 26/11/2020 09:08

@WokesFromHome

It's a good job they didn't marry originally. Our royal family are bad enough, imagine having Tom Parker Bowles as heir to the throne. All that money and opportunity and the most he makes of his life is to eat out for free and make comments on it. I don't know why Masterchef humour him.

At least William and Kate will make a good King and Queen. If you skip Charles I'm happy for them to stay otherwise I will join any Republican Party that starts up.

The point of royalty is that you don't pick and choose, you get what appears in the line of succession. That's what makes it a monarchy and not Britain's Got Talent. You aren't allowed to vote off the crap ones.
Livelovebehappy · 26/11/2020 09:12

Unpleasant couple, trying their hardest to fool the public into thinking they’re nice people, when history shows them to be manipulating and cold. I love the queen - she has been fantastic during her reign, and has been badly let down by her children over the years. I really hope that she hangs on in there for a few more years yet, so we get Charles on the throne for a minimal length of time before skipping to William.

lazyarse123 · 26/11/2020 09:12

@GlummyMcGlummerson

I think it's important to remember that he wasn't told he couldn't marry Camilla, she didn't want to be the Princess of Wales - which was convenient for the Royal Family anyway as they had a rather gross fascination with him marrying a virgin
I agree with this plus he could have given up his claim to the throne.
GetOffYourHighHorse · 26/11/2020 09:18

'Also, Camilla kept her cool in the face of some really appalling trolling.... She had dignity there.'

Yes she had years of it.

The whole Royal institution is just so archaic it really needs to go imo. All the ridiculous pomp and ceremony. I've been watching the latest series of the Crown and while yes half of it is made up trash, the rest all the bowing and scraping from the staff and plebs is of course accurate.

Just make Buckingham Palace a historic visitors site, move them all into small country estates and just wheel the Queen or Prince Charles out for the odd charity do.