To think that Charles and Camila are actually an example of genuine love

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Yes of course I feel sorry for Diana. Yes I think being a royal has a huge impact. But they let young and are now still together and seemingly happy in their 70’s, despite a lot of shunning, negative press, etc.

Really like what I see of Camilla. The way she is with her dogs, the wink she did when Trump visited. Just seems like a likeable lady!

I agree. I know that an elderly woman from NZ, who had been writing to Camilla for several years, was invited to (and attended) their wedding reception, which I thought was lovely. She seems down to earth and kind.

Charles is a disgrace. He stood in that cathedral and took his wedding vows knowing full well that he was cheating on Diana and would continue to do so. He sent a bracelet to Camilla 3 days before their wedding ffs. He will become head of the Church of England when he becomes king. How could anyone take him seriously in that role? Shocking.

Pedantic I know, but it’s Wallis Simpson.
Not Wallace as in Grommit!

Looks like two people who really gel and get on on every level.

They seem to be really contented, I loved Diana {Met her once} but over the years I feel that Camilla and Charles were far better suited.

{I don't watch 'The Crown' or any TV now }

Also, Camilla kept her cool in the face of some really appalling trolling.... She had dignity there.
'Never complain, never explain' is her maxim.

I do have respect for her now, and she appears to be a lot more accepted these days..and does genuinely appear to have a solid relationship with Charles.

Diana was sadly a 'Brood Mare' to produce an Heir.

I like Camilla.

Ridiculous double standards on this thread. Let’s hope none of your DHs cheat on you with a mistress behind your backs. Or will you be perfectly happy if they do so long as it’s “true love”?

Also, on the living separately thing - I imagine it is very easy to stay married if you barely see each other.

I agree op. I have come to hate the institution of the royal family generally but I do think it’s quite sweet that Charles and Camilla have been in love for that long. They seem like true soulmates. I wonder if they feel sad that they never got to live their younger years together and have children together. I’m always surprised at how well the public accepted her as his new wife too.

This is a terrible thing, and I openly admit it's my issue, but I judge people who cheat. I judge people who cheat because there are always alternatives. I judge people who cheat because it's shitting on your other half. I judge people who cheat because I just don't think they value themselves highly enough to treat their partner properly.

What do you mean, it’s a terrible thing and your issue? What you are saying about cheating being a shitty thing to do is absolutely right!

I would add one more sentence to your list though and say that I judge people who cheat when there are young kids (Wills and Harry at the time) in the mix. It makes an already horrible thing even more despicable.

I’m always surprised at how well the public accepted her as his new wife too.

Surprised because it’s not true perhaps?

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The public and press I think have accepted Camilla quite well considering. Accepting her as queen is not the same, half the public don’t want PC to become king!

Accepting her as queen is not the same

Many people (well, anyone with a moral compass) quite rightly don’t want her to become queen because of what she did to Diana.

Selfish to the extreme. The pair of them.

I don’t see a happy story there because the only reason they’ve been able to be together is because of Diana’s death. That was the workaround from the perspective of the church - Charles was essentially “widowed” despite having been divorced and unfaithful.

There was an American politician I read about who was able to marry his mistress in a Catholic Church for a similar reason. His ex wife had been dying of cancer while he cheated on her so once she died he was free to remarry.

I don’t look kindly on it at all.

Absolutely agree.

OP - I agree with you.

Its interesting because like a PP said, if this was in the relationships section on mumsnet there would be a very different view here, Camilla would be the vilified OW and Charles a bastard. Having said that royal marriages are not like normal marriages, all the protocol bullshit.

I reckon my marriage would have survived too if me and exH had vast wealth and no financial worries, seperate mansions to escape to when sick of each other and our staff to cook and clean for us. They don't have young children to care for or proper jobs to hold down.

Not surprising really they are still together.

Camilla, an Aristocrat, has a decades long affair with the man who will be our king in full view of her husband and friends and with her DC in tow. Charles treats his wife like dirt and makes her really unhappy and she ultimately dies in a car crash leaving 2 young children bereft. Andrew Parker Bowls is also meant to have had a lot of affairs.

Charles DID have a choice, but he wanted his cake and eat it. He could have abdicated from his position and married Camilla.

If they are happy, that's lovely. However, when he becomes King and she Queen Consort I will no longer personally support the royals and would happily vote Republican if there were to become such an opportunity. I don't want a King and QC that are morally bankrupt.

Charles had at least two other women on the go when he was with Diana so he wasn’t just carrying on with Camilla. Dale Tryon, Baroness Tryon was one of them, she was always described as a “close friend “ of the Prince of Wales. She even named one of her sons after Charles, and he is god father to him and also Camilla’s son Tom. It’s all very tacky in my opinion.
Camilla’s great grandmother Alice Keppel was the mistress of Charles ‘ great great grandfather Edward VII so the lousy , entitled behaviour runs in the family.

@Mermaidwaves

Its interesting because like a PP said, if this was in the relationships section on mumsnet there would be a very different view here, Camilla would be the vilified OW and Charles a bastard. Having said that royal marriages are not like normal marriages, all the protocol bullshit.

I reckon my marriage would have survived too if me and exH had vast wealth and no financial worries, seperate mansions to escape to when sick of each other and our staff to cook and clean for us. They don't have young children to care for or proper jobs to hold down.

Not surprising really they are still together.

Hmm, if wealth and staff were all it took to be happy in a marriage, Charles and Diana would have lasted. Having children wasn't the problem.

Nope I would argue that many of the modern marriage breakdowns are related to finances, housework and child care issues. Have a look on the relationship boards, there's countless threads about those issues. I will say again no wonder Charles and Camilla are still together.

Yes Charles and Diana didn't have those issues either but they were both shagging about. Different set of problems.

I agree with you, OP. But the omnishambles that preceded their union leaves a dark shadow no one can ignore. I will always wonder how Harry and William have stomached it all, to be honest. This is beyond 'let bygones be bygones.' That said, as a couple, they seem genuinely and incredibly bonded. They're really 'meant to be'. But the lead up to it all was as dysfunctional and as tragic as it gets.

Charles only went back to Camilla once the marriage "had irretrievably broken down us both having tried". I don't believe he married Diana expecting to carry on his affair. Once the marriage had broken down Diana had several lovers some of whom were married. Is there any sympathy for Julia Carling?

@CoronaIsWatching

I see the latest series of The Crown has really spun the Royal PR machine into overdrive

For "genuine love" this pair spend 99% of their time separate..separate residences, separate lives. I think they're a horrible pair.

I take it you haven’t watched it.

The RF come across terribly, it’s certainly no PR puff piece.

I know nothing about the whole Diana/Charles/camilla thing so looked it up a few days ago and found tampon gate 😮😂🙈

If it wasn’t for the laws regarding divorcees that would have been married long before Diana was on the scene. She was a pawn in the game.

@Cygne

The whole thing about the flowers outside Kensington Palace was ridiculous. All those beautiful flowers being left to rot away inside the cellophane, most buried under loads more rotting bouquets. It was the reverse of respectful.

Unpopular view but I agree.