To think that Charles and Camila are actually an example of genuine love

[Noddyandbiggerears]

Yes of course I feel sorry for Diana. Yes I think being a royal has a huge impact. But they let young and are now still together and seemingly happy in their 70’s, despite a lot of shunning, negative press, etc.

'They should of let them marry to begin with, then poor Diana wouldn’t be dead'

I don't think Camilla wanted to then. Diana is dead because of a drunk driver, it isn't as if she killed herself as a result of it all.

The whole thing is just one long tragic story with so many people making bad decisions.

@PIPSUE

I think, when Charles married Diana, it was arranged because she was young, immature, with a "clean" past and so was the perfect prey. Everyone was in the picture, even Diana, who was by that time in love with love, and naive, and assumed that marriage would solve everything, unlike Charles who knew what he was doing. I also think her father was a big influence and wanted it to ahead. Her own affairs were simply a need for affection.

And attention. Dreadful vanity

I couldn't stand the pair of them and don't believe in Karma now - nasty people get rewarded ( by becoming King and Queen).

But I do have admiration for how Charles has come to Ireland, gone to Mullaghmore, despite the sadness he felt when his beloved Lord Mountbatten was assassinated there, to help the peace process. That was big.

Off thread sorry but I didn't know about the 5 mentally ill nieces of the queen's who were ignored and kept in institutions. I can understand it was the way they did it in the queen mother's day but up until their deaths there's no record of any visits from the RF or any provision. Katherine and Nerissa didn't even have their own clothes.
Just shows what a dysfunctional bunch they are.

Housewife2010 the Queen was 25 when her father died, 27 when she was crowned. Not that it really matters - she wasn't 21.

What does make me sad is the way Charles refers to Camilla as, "My darling wife". Almost as if he's saying, "You see? I can have a good marriage!"

It puts me in mind of when someone you know's marriage is in trouble, and one of the couple post happy pics all over Facebook in an attempt to shore up the image - almost as if they're trying to deny the reality

But then, who can say what the reality is when it comes to the RF?

Chucky & Cammy are ideally suited.

They are both selfish, self-serving individuals, who used their partners to give them a family and then rejected them.

( Don't forget Cammy 'stole' Andrew PB off Princess Anne - talk about 'keeping it in the family'! )

Cammy knows her place. At their wedding she walked slightly behind him and not beside him. She is ugly enough not to be more popular than him, and she panders to his every whim.

It's a trade-off.
She's a society girl who's never done a days work in her life and can be kept in idle luxury provided she doesn't upstage him, rock the boat, or ask for any emotional support for herself.

I wonder when we can look forward to King & Queen Tampax?

Is it love? Who knows?

@GetOffYourHighHorse

Off thread sorry but I didn't know about the 5 mentally ill nieces of the queen's who were ignored and kept in institutions. I can understand it was the way they did it in the queen mother's day but up until their deaths there's no record of any visits from the RF or any provision. Katherine and Nerissa didn't even have their own clothes. Just shows what a dysfunctional bunch they are.

omg please send link this is awful. I remember that bit in the king's speech where he referred to the disabled younger brother who died

@JaneM8888

Chucky & Cammy are ideally suited.

They are both selfish, self-serving individuals, who used their partners to give them a family and then rejected them.

( Don't forget Cammy 'stole' Andrew PB off Princess Anne - talk about 'keeping it in the family'! )

Cammy knows her place. At their wedding she walked slightly behind him and not beside him. She is ugly enough not to be more popular than him, and she panders to his every whim.

It's a trade-off.
She's a society girl who's never done a days work in her life and can be kept in idle luxury provided she doesn't upstage him, rock the boat, or ask for any emotional support for herself.

I wonder when we can look forward to King & Queen Tampax?

Is it love? Who knows?

Love this analysis. But, what do you make of her occasional forays into campaigning against DV? I rather admired her for that as there didn't appear to be any in her own life and yet she was prepared to speak up for other women. I wondered if there was a dark secret. She is quite good on this subject.

"what do you make of her occasional forays into campaigning against DV? "

Sorry but what's DV ?

Obviously some people will dismiss this as it is from the DM but at least the photos show Charles and Diana looking genuinely happy together. mol.im/a/8994307

@JaneM8888

"what do you make of her occasional forays into campaigning against DV? "

Sorry but what's DV ?

domestic violence, sorry, I work in this area and forgot people don't automatically know the phrase

It's why I'm interested in the functioning of this family as there is a lot of coercive control in it

Domestic
Violence
!!

[quote Housewife2010]Obviously some people will dismiss this as it is from the DM but at least the photos show Charles and Diana looking genuinely happy together. mol.im/a/8994307[/quote]
I agree, particularly that second one, how could you fake the intimacy there. It seems to me that these people are just so rich and privileged that they are able to take multiple partners like lots of people would if they could pay off the opposition.
Terrible dress sense though. The fabric they are wearing OMG.

@cms1972

Domestic Violence !!

I agree, it is . In my experience, usually, but not always, people who campaign on this topic tend to be survivors in some way. Camilla says she "knows women" who have been through this and this is why she cares about it in the little I've read online (although I admit, I don't follow news about her and know very little about this family). I pricked up my ears at the time and wondered if APB had done something to her. It seemed quite a bold step for a royal anyway.

Even if they are fundamentally terrible people, that's no reason they can't genuinely love each other. Would probably make them suited.

I couldn't stand the pair of them and don't believe in Karma now - nasty people get rewarded ( by becoming King and Queen).

Perhaps that's not a reward.

I find some responses odd. I imagine Diana posting on MN about her cheating DH and the 3rd person in the marriage.

I know what I'd be responding and it would not be the "great" love story of the cheating DH and OW.

I read a book ages ago although I can't remember what it was called..but I'm pretty sure it said that actually, despite all the problems, Charles and Diana did actually love each other and have some good times.. it wasn't all doom and gloom.

I think people who have a polygamous set up or are unfaithful with a number of partners or whatever, do genuinely feel affection and romance with several of them. Yes of course there is also breach of trust and playing people off against each other, but I don't find it incomprehensible that Charles has loved several women on and off in his way. I also think he has matured to an extent and that he is obviously flawed by a sense of entitlement. Where families arrange marriage often both males and females are oppressed by the family dynasties but the women pay for it far worse. Diana was terribly abused but also a weak and vain character, Camilla is not only warm as people here have posted but very cleverly defended psychologically. I think one of the royal commentators on my apple news feed said she always enjoys watching the Crown with a glass of wine at her side whilst the rest of them can't cope with it. I kind of like that game old bird act.

Charles wasn't prevented from marrying Camilla. He dithered, and she chose to marry APB

Quite - just as Margaret couldn't actually have been prevented from marrying Peter Townsend had she wanted to

Didn't stop her getting a lot of "poor me" mileage out of it though

I find some responses odd. I imagine Diana posting on MN about her cheating DH and the 3rd person in the marriage. This was all 30 years ago though. If someone posted on here that their partner had cheated 30 years ago and they were still cut up about it I have no doubt that they would have been encouraged to move on by now. As much as infidelity hurts at the time, there does come a point where you just can’t hang on to that bitterness any longer.

Also, many of the people posting here know about what kind of person Diana was. Because although she may have got sympathy if she’d posted at the time that her dh was cheating, if she’d then come on a couple of years later to say that she’d had numerous affairs with married men she would have been absolutely ripped apart.

I love the idea of all of them posting on MN.

Camilla - I was the OW but we’ve been together about 20 years now. I get on well with my SCs but many people still talk about how we got together. Aibu to say they should leave it now.

Diana - starts endless threads in relationships always being told to LTB.

Charles - “does anyone know of a good non poisonous way to get rid of slugs in my vegetable garden”.

@MLMbotsgoaway

I love the idea of all of them posting on MN.

Camilla - I was the OW but we’ve been together about 20 years now. I get on well with my SCs but many people still talk about how we got together. Aibu to say they should leave it now.

Diana - starts endless threads in relationships always being told to LTB.

Charles - “does anyone know of a good non poisonous way to get rid of slugs in my vegetable garden”.

Hahaha that's brilliant. Then a troll would post back saying you ARE the slug in the vegetable garden. Love it.