To think that Charles and Camila are actually an example of genuine love

[Noddyandbiggerears]

Yes of course I feel sorry for Diana. Yes I think being a royal has a huge impact. But they let young and are now still together and seemingly happy in their 70’s, despite a lot of shunning, negative press, etc.

Terrible for Diana but at least Charles was having affairs with just anyone

I think they are 2 of the most selfish self absorbed people , they have never cared about anyone but themselves. Sickening

@PrincessNutNut I was purely replying to RusselBrand . Pretty sure I said above that I imagine it was a result of a the extreme stress

I am surprised at the interest in this post. Who cares? Just chill, live and let live.

I do find it so odd that people really trash Camilla for having an affair with a married man when Diana did the same - with several

Actually some of us had little time for Diana's behaviour either, except if we said so at the time we got monstered for it by her admirers

That said it's not Diana - being dead and all - who lectures us on things like moral breakdown, the importance of traditional values, etc., while touring a woman like Camilla round the place

Touting, not touring ...

@Dongdingdong has form I’m afraid folks. Best ignore. I completely agree, I think Charles was a victim of an antiquated system too.

@Noddyandbiggerears

What?!! So if your husband hurt you by having an affair - you’d do the exact same thing to a number of other women?! Really?

And your own children

"I do think it’s a shame that for a variety of (on the face of it) strange reasons, they couldn’t be together when they were younger. But to me it just magnifies the ridiculousness of royal standards and protocols"

What were these 'strange reasons'?

It seems to me they were just young & like anyone else, they made choices that with hindsight might have been different. You can't blame Camilla for not wanting to marry into the RF back in the 1970s, and maybe Charles didn't want to settle down back then either.

What does make me sad is the way Charles refers to Camilla as, "My darling wife". Almost as if he's saying, "You see? I can have a good marriage!" You can't help thinking how Diana would have loved it if he'd ever said that when he was married to her... but you can't help who you love, I guess.

They are made for each other. They just look so solidly, unfakeably happy together. They don't have to live in each other's pockets to be a good match. I do think he married Diana because she was suitable and thinking he could learn to love her - happens to plenty of people in actual arranged marriages - and tried to be faithful but had nothing in common with her as it turned out. What was he supposed to do, in his position? He couldn't realistically remain single for the rest of his life because Camilla was spoken for.

Whatever love means. They are welcome to one another. As long as she’s not foistered upon us as queen, I am good. Damaged goods, both of them.

To clarify, I mean he was justified in marrying Diana in the circumstances - not that it was completely legitimate for him to have had the affair with Camilla, though I do find it very understandable.

I would absolutely welcome her as Queen. I find it a pity that for reasons of tact she's not referred to as the Princess of Wales, even though she's perfectly entitled to be.

The thing with the royal family is you just never know.

@cms1972

"I do think it’s a shame that for a variety of (on the face of it) strange reasons, they couldn’t be together when they were younger. But to me it just magnifies the ridiculousness of royal standards and protocols"

What were these 'strange reasons'?

It seems to me they were just young & like anyone else, they made choices that with hindsight might have been different. You can't blame Camilla for not wanting to marry into the RF back in the 1970s, and maybe Charles didn't want to settle down back then either.

What does make me sad is the way Charles refers to Camilla as, "My darling wife". Almost as if he's saying, "You see? I can have a good marriage!" You can't help thinking how Diana would have loved it if he'd ever said that when he was married to her... but you can't help who you love, I guess.

In the other hand it's standard for people in happy second marriages to disparage or at best bot refer significantly to the first one. It's not w criticism of the previous spouse just an acknowledgment that they've found their match this time round.

@winniestone37 ah I see. Started to think it was me!

i am a royalist also was a big fan of Dianas , i do realise that sh had mood swings etc, not helped by her upbringing, but after reading articles etc that profess to be true , i thinnk Charles and Camilla behaved abominably, Diana was only 19 and extremely vulnerable, Charles was still in love with her when he married Diana, they never really stopped seeing each other, the marriage did not stand a chance, for a wedding present Camilla gave Charles a bracelet engraved with their names and i know that William and Harry avoided her as much as they could when she visited the palace, now, they put up her which is more than she deserves, dreading Queen Camilla

They deserve each other. Saved more people from being victims of their selfishness. Like attracts like they say.

I loved Diana . Can't help think that the press only told her story in the 90s though and the Crown has highlighted a story that /side of Charle's story and cpb*s that they should have married sooner and avoided whe said mess, even if she had waited until he was a bit older , would have been easier all round , and spared a wasted life in terms of Diana's. Not that her kids are wasted , just could have been so different .
Feel sorry for them all in a way .

Think they were all victims of a system and a somewhat dysfunctional family in terms of the fact that they seem rather cold and distant in a way as parents (Queen & Phil) .
Not surprising given that Prince Philip lost most of his family in a place crash his father was an alcoholic and mother locked up by his father in an asylum whilst he was having affairs . The Queen: dad does of lung cancer at age 21 so you've no time to grieve you just put up and shut up and get on with being Queen whilst everyone warns u about everyone's past mistakes (e.g. Wallace Simpson) and how much of a scandal it was......
And this cycle affects your children and his wife .....
And it goes round in a toxic cycle for about 60 years....

Charles wasn't prevented from marrying Camilla. He dithered, and she chose to marry APB.

I think, when Charles married Diana, it was arranged because she was young, immature, with a "clean" past and so was the perfect prey. Everyone was in the picture, even Diana, who was by that time in love with love, and naive, and assumed that marriage would solve everything, unlike Charles who knew what he was doing. I also think her father was a big influence and wanted it to ahead. Her own affairs were simply a need for affection.

Actually the Queen was nearly 27 when her father died. Not 21. Philip's sister Cecile and her family died in an air crash. It wasn't "most of Philip's family."

I think they’re both scum actually. What they did to Diana was terrible and the passage of 40 years doesn’t change that.

They should of let them marry to begin with, then poor Diana wouldn’t be dead. I do feel sorry for all three of them.