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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To pull my lodger up about commenting on my food?

418 replies

Housewoes23 · 23/11/2020 00:04

I've recently moved into a house and I took on a lodger about 3 weeks later.
I knew him before we made this arrangement, acquaintance rather than friend but we get along okay.

Over the last 10 or so days, he has said(amongst others probably, I haven't documented but as far as I remember)

'Ugh making that disgusting smelly stuff again'

'I emptied the bin and it was fully of your smelly food!'

(When I was making hummus) 'Ugh!I hope the top doesn't come off that blender can you imagine that disgusting stuff going all over the kitchen!'

When I hadn't yet washed up (I'd only just finished making my dinner) and he came in the kitchen 'Eewww!! Disgusting saucy stuff all in the washing up bowl!' (I wasn't going to leave it, I just literally hadn't finished clearing up yet, it was seconds after I'd cooked).

Also, he has his own fridge but shares a freezer with me. He won't go in it because 'my disgusting food' is in there.

I got him his own fridge because he wouldnt share one with me-there was plenty of room for two people's foodstuffs in there, but he 'didn't want to touch my disgusting sauces and horrible food' (I'm paraphrasing but something like that).

For context,we're both single people aged 38 and 52.

I LOVE cooking. I love greek food and often make dips and crudites and use garlic and herbs and sauces.

He is a very plain eater (chicken and chips, ready made pies you'd shove in an oven, bread and cheese).

I haven't ever commented on his choice of eating habits, wouldn't even cross my mind.

Anyway tonight I told him it was making me feel self concious and I would make sure I didn't eat near him, but there is one small kitchen so I can't avoid cooking in it. I'll make sure all is cleaned up when I've used it and won't ever leave anything to be washed up, but I didn't see the need to constantly jibe at what I eat.

AIBU?
And also, would this irritate you?

Another context point is, I have a bit of an ED. 95% corrected now, but I've never particularly liked eating in front of people, although I was/am almost over it-this isn't helping so I wonder if I am being over-sensitive.

TIA :)

OP posts:
SchadenfreudePersonified · 23/11/2020 09:26

@PickAChew

you need to tell him it's not working out.
This.

He is being beyond rude. How dare he comment on things like this when he is fortunate enough to be sharing your home!

If you feel you want a lodger, either for financial reasons or for company, you could do a lot better than him. Quite frankly, even if your home was a midden (and I'm sure it's not) if he doesn't like it it's up to him to find himself somewhere else - not to make rude, unkind and uncalled-for comments about either your eating habits or your housekeeping.

Get rid of him.

Pumpertrumper · 23/11/2020 09:32

OP, as a 27 year old woman who has shared homes previously and suffered mild ED too, I really don’t think this is working or sustainable.

I think you need to clearly but firmly tell him
‘I’ve been thinking about our conversation the other day. I’m afraid I don’t think this living situation is working out for either of us. You seem uncomfortable with my food choices/eating and as a result I feel uncomfortable in my own house. I’d like you to find somewhere else to live, I will of course give your full deposit back and a good reference if you need one’.

Schummakker · 23/11/2020 09:32

He is awful! You’ve been far too patient OP. Get rid of him, you need peace in your home not to be anxious about what you decide to cook - how dare he.

IdblowJonSnow · 23/11/2020 09:37

What a rude arsehole!
Please don't allow yourself to be treated like this in your own home op!
Get rid!

BaskingMad · 23/11/2020 09:38

Well, being a MAN in the house he’s marking his territory and acting like it’s his.
It’s your smelly food now, next will be your insufficient cleaning of the house, tv choices etc. It is clear why this man at 52 is a lodger.
Tell him it’s not working and he needs to move out.

VinylDetective · 23/11/2020 09:41

Time for him to move on. He clearly doesn’t understand what being a lodger means.

grapewine · 23/11/2020 09:44

He's rude and you're being way too patient and accommodating. I wouldn't be spoken to like that in my own house. As PP said, I'd rather eat beans than have such a rude person in my living space. He sounds a twat.

UsernameChat · 23/11/2020 09:44

Geez, I'd pay you more to share your food! It sounds delicious!

You are being way too lenient on your lodger. He's rude and bad mannered. Kick him out before it gets worse and write down important traits you want in your next lodger (like not being a twat...) before you inerview more people.

ClaireP20 · 23/11/2020 09:47

@PickAChew

you need to tell him it's not working out.
This - and it is also concerning how you have begun to modify your behaviour to placate him, to such an extent that you won't eat where you are entitled to eat.

Politely tell him you don't think it is working out and it might be best for him to move out before Christmas.

Xx

Chocolate1984 · 23/11/2020 09:50

He is bullying you in your own home. His behaviour is not normal. Tell him to go and get someone else.

C8H10N4O2 · 23/11/2020 09:58

Time for a new lodger. Give notice, advertise the room, reclaim your own home from this obnoxious idiot.

Mix56 · 23/11/2020 10:04

I think you need to say, this is my kitchen, I cook & eat what I like, I dont expect you to like or eat it. I have bought you your own fridge to permit you to keep your foods separate, I have even offered to extradite myself & eat in another room.
I was hoping to co-habit politely & with mutual respect, so If you plan staying on here, you should cease your constant snipes at my healthy eating, (its not liquidized locusts or anything too far out)
Because I am not going to be eating junk food any time soon.
So let me know what your plans are.

ddl1 · 23/11/2020 10:05

YANBU! If it happened ONCE, I might possibly excuse it as a single foot-in-mouth incident; but he has no right to complain constantly about your personal food choices in your own home. And if he acts like that about your food, he will very likely start acting as though he thinks he's boss over other things, unless it's nipped in the bud. Rather than being oversensitive, I think that your history of having an ED may have made you too willing to accept other people's right to comment on your eating habits. I would make it clear to him that unless he's willing to accept your way of life in your own home, you will need to look for a new lodger.

Missteebeee · 23/11/2020 10:08

If he doesn’t like it, he can leave

Stop pandering to him

Topseyt · 23/11/2020 10:12

@TerrifiedandWorried

She can be kind. It is allowed.
She has already been more than kind, even buying him a fridge of his own. He has continued to be a twat and is making her uncomfortable in her own home.

Time to tell him to sling his hook if he cannot control his twattery. It is very controlling and inconsiderate behaviour whatever the reason for it. OP should not have to put up with this in her own home.

powershowerforanhour · 23/11/2020 10:14

Hmm I think you would both be happier if he lodges elsewhere. Cooking delicious Greek food is your happy place, one of the things that brings you joy. If he can't keep a very tight lid on his food issues then that spoil a happiness source for you. See how it goes but it's up to him to manage his own issues, you don't have to fix him.
Also...if there are any other areas where he is pass-remarkable about you or the house then get rid. Especially if there's any hint that he's a secretly seething mass of resentment because the universe has fucked up such that the younger woman owns the house that the older man lodges in.

Skipsurvey · 23/11/2020 10:15

yes, find another lodger. how rude of him

LeaveMyDamnJam · 23/11/2020 10:16

I’ve not read all your replies OP, but I don’t think this is about food.

This is a man who doesn’t like you and the fact you have your own home (he doesn’t) and are much younger than him. He will get worse as the bile builds up in him. I would ask him to leave before that happens.

Aibuabouteverything · 23/11/2020 10:17

I'm not defending his behaviour towards this situation at all and by being a lodger in YOUR home he should not be behaving in that way at all.

However i have a DS who is very similar to what you describe, there are a few dishes i cook and if i am cooking my DS will literally heave if he comes into the kitchen and cannot bear to smell it as it makes him feel sick. Same with the bin, if i've thrown any leftovers into it and he happens to open it to put something else in he cannot stand the smell and will complain. My DS is also a very plain fussy eater and i've come to realise he has sensory issues around food with it's texture and smell etc. Perhaps your lodger has the same issues.

That said, it is not ok to complain and he is a grown adult, you've already made effort to give him separate space to store his food from yours and if he can't learn to keep quiet and accept things then he needs to get his own house where he can do what he likes!

powershowerforanhour · 23/11/2020 10:18

Oh yeah...if you get rid then get a lodger who pays market rate and you and new lodger- hopefully a foodie who appreciates your culinary talents- use the spare fridge as a wine fridge. Everyone's a winner!

lottiegarbanzo · 23/11/2020 10:21

He's a very rude man.

If he's 52 (and an habitually rude man already) he won't change. Time for him to go.

You're being far too nice, pussyfooting around him, buying a separate fridge when none is needed (bloody hell!). I suspect you are only doing this and doubting yourself because of your ED. You've internalised a narrative of you being over-sensitive, so now you can't tell where the boundary between normal and rude / over-sensitive, lies and are constantly giving other people the benefit of the doubt, when they don't deserve it.

Lougle · 23/11/2020 10:23

I don't think he's being difficult. He has food issues. I think it sounds like he could have ASD, too, given that he is being so open in his disgust of your food, but obviously, there are lots of factors that go into ASD, so it could just be a food issue.

For that reason, you need to be kind. However, that said, you have an ED yourself. I would say that makes you incompatible as lodger/landlord. You need to consider whether you are going to cause each other discomfort, in which case it's best for him to move out.

Housewoes23 · 23/11/2020 10:24

Thank you for all the replies everyone. I fully accept (and have tried to work on, beleive me!) that I can be a bit 'backwards at coming forwards'.

With this situation, as I've said I knew him before we were lodger/landlord, we got along, I will be honest I did find him a tad odd, but odd not in a sinister way. More in the way that he was always very quiet, didn't behave like most blokes, doesn't go to the pub or have many friends.

I missed the post Pyongykipperbang about your boyfriend-he sounds very similar by means of liking plain food and hating anything spicy/garlicy (things I love)! Grin but as you've said, your boyfriend acknowledges that it is his issue and knows being rude about it isn't on. Of the mutual pisstaking-yes, I've done (and do!) do that with very close friends/family. But this is very different to that.

He left his last house because, I mentioned to him and others a while that I was going toadvertise for a lodger when I got my new place. I work long hours and the house I walooking at had a spare room, I was a bit worried about money, I knew I'd manage, but haven't lived alone for a while (I was renting in shared accomodation after a relationship break up) so felt it would help.He mentioned that he was struggling renting a 2 bed by himself and didn't have much money or any need for a whole house so he would lodge with me. I thought well better than a complete stranger, I knew him well enough (and had mutual friends who also did and knew him better/and for longer) to know he wasn't a complete creep or really messy or an alcoholic or any other commonly spoken of lodger issues so I agreed.

drspouse nothing-once they'd served our food he just refused to eat it and ate the chips which were further away from the coleslaw. Someone actually took the ramekin of coleslaw from his plate for him but he still wouldn't eat his burger!

Of the age thing I honestly did not consider this. 52 and 38 isn't that much of a gap, so I thought? I thought both fully fledged adults, not comparible to say, 22 and 38 or 18 and 36? But obviously this could be a factor in that he sees (or could be seeing) me as a younger woman and that's the difference.

I have a really keen sense of smell myself and I honestly don't believe anything I cook smells that strongly but we do become noseblind I suppose. I do open windows and the house has scented auto sprays (I've randomly forgotten what theyre called!) and laundry smells and generally is clean.

As I've said in the few years I've known him (and longer that mutual friends have) he hasn't had a partner at all. I dont think he's been booted out by anybody.Not in the last decade or so at least.

violet I should have mentioned in my OP probably but I did actually say something to him, one of the first times he said it, before I realised it would be constant. I said something such as 'I don't comment on your lardy junk food!' or such.

I love the 'ping' comment Grin He does tend to buy ready made microwaveble food or things that need ovening for 20 mins. I couldn't eat that way, I'm too health concious apart from wine but I wouldn't dream of implying that I've a say in another adults food choices.

sparklfairy that's bonkers!

bamechange protective coleslaw circle! (I do like coleslaw)!

greoarious I couldn't stand this. I enjoy my food and it would put me off listening to all that griping.
Nothing puts me off food I love but I agree on that can't stand it. I don't start MN threads about small gripes but I really am bothered by this.

Whenever I showed a prospective new lodger round my house there was always an imaginary person who'd been to look earlier in the evening, who obviously had first dibs... This meant if I just got one of those "this won't work" feelings, I'd created a ready-made excuse. It also meant I could never be forced to make up my mind on the spot, and always had an excuse to sort out details by phone later. this is a very good idea Caradune I'll definitely do this if it comes to it.

I didn't have any niggly feelings really, as I already knew him for a bit first. As I've said he is a tad odd but, I probably am to some people too!

Thank you for the advice, it is appreciated.

greyishdays I agree he did/does seem to find my food choices very strange. He doesn't seem to know much about food at all. He was at the supermarket the other day while I was at work and asked did I want anything. I requested chilli powder and he didn't know what it was! He was also eating a yogurt the other day and said 'Look at me eating yogurt like a vegan!' Grin Hmm

diamnondpony and others I do wonder if he has autism. He seems to have many traits but I Am not a psychiatrist. Food shaming is a thing it seems. But he isnt a child and should know this is rude-children know It's rude!

Of those saying I could slip back into an ED, yes. I'm much better than I was, but I still eat in my car at work and am self concious going out for meals. I like to eat healthily and exercise a fair bit, but I no longer control my food intake like I used to. I suppose I could slip though with food shaming occuring.

rainingbatsandfrogs yes, he does seem to have food phobic tendencies definitely. He told me recently that when he was a child, his parents would have brown sauce/tomato ketchup on their food and it knocked him sick.

curious very good points made. I will see what It's like now I have had a word.

Cam77 about the bantering thing-possibly. He seems to constantly jibe about things/whinge about stuff, I think it is just for something to say sometimes. Maybe it would have been easier to get a stranger.

billy maybe I should have known!

owlone yes, I mean bins aren't supposed to smell nice are they?

terrifiedandworried I could try the having a word with him thing-if I do I'll report back!

I have to go to work now will respond again later!

OP posts:
CoalTit · 23/11/2020 10:26

Bloody hell, @TerrifiedandWorried, it sounds as if you're expecting that when he's fifty your 10-year-old will be giving his female acquaintances grief in their own homes for eating "smelly", "disgusting" food, and you think they should respond by "opening a dialogue" with him!
If the OP has done anything wrong, it's that she's been too kind and too accommodating to another adult who needs to deal with his own problems, whether they be psychological, social or neurological.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 23/11/2020 10:27

It's not ED.

He seems to comment just on your foreign food. That's a whole different issue and I don't tolerate people like that. Mainly because it's not just the "forrin" food they usually comment on.

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