AIBU to be unreasonably angry about food lies?

[SchrodingersImmigrant]

Aaagr.

It started with buffalo cauliflower wings😔
There are no wings on cauli! It doesn't remotely taste like wings either! It's BUFFALO CAULIFLOWER BITES. (Which are really nice btw)

Then the Jackfruit Pulled Pork.
No. There is NO pork.
It's "pulled jackfruit" if anything. Liers.

And to top it off... Chickpe tuna. The hell, people😔 The hell... It hasn't even passed tuna anywhere in its existence.
It's CHICKPEA spread or something. No tuna. Bad people.

Liessssss. Why can't food be just called what it is🤦 There is just no need for all them liessssssssss.

@unmarkedbythat

I love meat eaters getting pissy about the names of vegetarian and vegan food. It just sounds like "waaaaaaaah they're taking my words" and I enjoy it immensely.

For my tea I am going to have vegetarian SAUSAGE rolls and tomorrow I might make some halloumi BURGERS and as I eat them I will imagine all your cross little faces :)

It's not about "waha they are taking my words". I could go, finely chop beef, powder it with soy and sell it as sou noodles then. It's not it. That's the problem.

Yet again. A piece of cauli in a buffalo sauce is not a wing anymore than piece of chicken breast in orange sauce is an orange.

It's illogical and I don't understand how it's passing the laws when other, similar, things don't.

I’m vegetarian and if pisses me off too - so hard to work out what is and isn’t veggie.

I ordered something topped with “onion bacon”, and asked them to leave the bacon off. Turns out it was just fried onion. Nothing to do with bacon in any way.

I had almost walked out as I couldn’t see anything veggie on the menu, and only stayed because everyone else wanted to, so restaurants are doing themselves no favours here.

@unmarkedbythat

I love meat eaters getting pissy about the names of vegetarian and vegan food. It just sounds like "waaaaaaaah they're taking my words" and I enjoy it immensely.

For my tea I am going to have vegetarian SAUSAGE rolls and tomorrow I might make some halloumi BURGERS and as I eat them I will imagine all your cross little faces :)

Can you really not see that labelling something as "vegan chicken fillets" is simply untrue? It's like calling bacon "carrot".

Can you really not see that labelling something as "vegan chicken fillets" is simply untrue? It's like calling bacon "carrot"

I do this thing called thinking, which helps me to understand that as it says 'vegan' on it, it is going to be a non meat product designed to taste and be similar in texture to an actual chicken fillet. I am not one of the people who needs advice of the "may contains nuts" on packets of nuts, products, though, so maybe I am over estimating the degree to which everyone else is able to work that out without a mini breakdown.

I have no issues with burger, sausage or even milk as there are different types of all those anyway. However, you can't have "vegan chicken" or "jackfruit pulled pork" when it has no pork in it. They are lies, pure and simple.

Take pot noodles - they are labelled "chicken flavour" rather than "chicken" because they contain no chicken. This is absolutely accurate and the correct way to label things.

I do this thing called thinking

Yet you are unable to see that labelling something "vegan chicken" is simply wrong. Clearly you are unable to think as well as you believe.

I'm not having a breakdown, I just think it's pathetic and misleading to lie about stuff.

According to vegenews polyester is vegan, donquixote. Where have you heard that it's made from wee fishes?

Surely they are named that way to help identify what sort of flavour they are/what type of thing they are replicating?

For example, Quorn comes in many styles. Calling it quorn chicken nuggets tells you that these taste a bit like chicken nuggets as opposed to the quote made to taste a bit like bacon.

If you called them lentil burgers, people would imagine them to taste like lentils, rather than knowing they are intended as meat substitutes.

In order for it to be a lie 🙄 there'd have to be people out there who genuinely think it's possible to have plant-based chicken flesh. If they exist, I'd hazard they're wearing MAGA hats, and open carry . . .

Oh, SoupDragon (and I bet you are neither made of soup not a dragon, how can you mislead people this way?!) bore off, this is the most ridiculous thing to get arsey about. Go and get annoyed with someone about whether a cake is a bread product or a sweet baked product or a lump of soap or something, or alternatively consider how language evolves and that a word meaning one thing today may perfectly well mean something else as time passes.

Take pot noodles - they are labelled "chicken flavour" rather than "chicken" because they contain no chicken. This is absolutely accurate and the correct way to label things.
Absolutely this. I honestly thought that's the law🤷🏻

Surely they are named that way to help identify what sort of flavour they are/what type of thing they are replicating?
Again. So would it be ok to pur bbqq sauce over celery sticks and call it bbq ribs? Because that's what this is. It's fine to use "flavoured" or "style". Though the cauli I mentiomed in the op is neither of it. It has no chicken flavour. It's literally just cauliflower in buffalo sauce.

We have an amazing local restaurant which does AN AMAZING cauliflower dish with sauces. Every person I know orders it. There is simply no need to pretend it's not cauli because cauli is nice on its own merits.

Basically we are insulting vegetables by saying we need to name them as something else to entice people to eat it😂

or alternatively consider how language evolves and that a word meaning one thing today may perfectly well mean something else as time passes.

Well ok.
Behold, the pig 🤷🏻

Alternatively, behold the tomato 🐄

Let's just have free for all then.

This is red 🔵

am not one of the people who needs advice of the "may contains nuts" on packets of nuts, products, though, so maybe I am over estimating the degree to which everyone else is able to work that out without a mini breakdown.

Peanuts are legumes, not nuts. So people with allergies to tree nuts need to know this.

@LadyTiredWinterBottom2

Buffalo wings don't come from buffalo either

This doesn't annoy me aa much as cake made to look like other things. Just bake a fucking cake, l don't need a cake that looks like a friggin hand bag.

No, But they are a style of chicken wing originated in Buffalo, NY.

You do know that Caesar Salad was not created by the Caesars of the Roman Empire?

@SchrodingersImmigrant it's not insulting vegetables. It's more like 'i gave up meat but god I miss steak. I wish there was something that tasted and had a similar texture' then looking at the supermarket or restaurant menu I see a quorn/vegan steak

@nosswith

As the person who first advocated the protected status for Wensleydale Cheese 20 years ago, I am with the OP about realistic food descriptions.

I just remembered! There was a case with feta in Australia. EU was on it. And then I went to yorkshire and they had Yorkshire Fete and when I asked what it was they just laughed and said feta🤷🏻 But we can't call it that. It was tasty.

Did you know, there is a fish which is protected like this? It's a common fish but this one comes from a certain area and it's so known for good quality the name "xarea xfish" got protected status. It's really interesting sometimes!

[quote lovepickledlimes]@SchrodingersImmigrant it's not insulting vegetables. It's more like 'i gave up meat but god I miss steak. I wish there was something that tasted and had a similar texture' then looking at the supermarket or restaurant menu I see a quorn/vegan steak[/quote]
I get the looking for similar. But it should be labelled correctly. Though I honestly did not find cauliflower in any eay similar to wings. Nor to a steak.
It's bloody delicious in Maqlooba though.

Well, the answer is in the thread title.

@SchrodingersImmigrant the cauliflower one I do get as it tastes nothing like the original but for example the quorn chicken nuggets, you really barely can tell the difference and it would be helpful as it means the person trying it will know it tastes close to identical to the meat version

Ok, I get that. Absolutely. But it shouldn't be "quorn chicken nuggets". It should be "quorn chicken flavour nuggets".

Quorn is a well known veggie/ vegan brand, you would have needed to be living in a cave for the last 20 years to have escaped that piece of info, but just in case the helpful addition of 'meat free' might give a fair indication of what to expect.

M & S plant range clearly titles it products 'meat free mince', 'chilll non carni', mozarella is something like not zarella. Pretty clear what it is.
It's just a way of telling you the flavour texture to expect. I'm sure there is some legilation on the way, to help people that don't undertand that celery with BBQ sauce on it isn't BBQ ribs
The ' faux' naivety on thread being used to bash vegan/ veggies is more irritating then any food misonomers.

It's not about being stupid or not knowing brands. It's about the fact that it's mislabeling. Simple as that.

There is no faux naivety. Only faux thing in here is the food pretending to be something completely different. 🤷🏻

@SchrodingersImmigrant

Ok, I get that. Absolutely. But it shouldn't be "quorn chicken nuggets". It should be "quorn chicken flavour nuggets".

What's wrong with Quorn nuggets? I assume that they are the shape of chicken nuggets.