to think if you have been social distancing, then you shouldn't need to self isolate?

[chomalungma]

Let's say hypothetically you had a work colleague who you have been meeting with but you followed social distancing guidelines.

They then test positive and claim that you have been a close contact.

You get the phone call and are told to self isolate - but you know that the only person you have been in contact who has tested positive was someone who you have been socially distanced from.

Why should you self isolate?

Is this about Boris?

@Rudolphian

Is this about Boris?

Might be.

He has claimed that he was following social distancing guidelines and it's a Covid secure workplace.

You’re right, in that situation he wouldn’t need to self isolate, if it was confirmed he was following the rules.

I assume you mean by socially distanced you mean 2m away from.....you know that distance is just an arbitrary one that the government/scientists came up with - it has no medical basis? And in fact coughing/breathing/sneezing can transfer the virus 6ft away or more??? So yes you do need to self isolate

Even if you were 2 metres from them, you have to self isolate if you were there for more than 15 minutes. Social distancing reduces the spread, not stops it entirely.

But then Boris is a total fucking dick, and if he was 2m away from that MP then I'm 4 metres tall.

It reduces the risk not eliminates it

Secondary school teachers aren't allowed to self isolate if there has been a case in the class they taught. Even if they were symptomatic (coughing but returned to class after being sent to be isolated) and on the front row
Because apparently we stay 2m distant "where possible"...

Social distancing (and other measures) reduce risk, they don’t eliminate it. When you’ve got a confirmed case it make sense to add in additional measures such as contact isolation.

Even if you were 2 metres from them, you have to self isolate if you were there for more than 15 minutes

No, it’s less than 2m for more than 15 mins.

I agree. DD was told to SI after seeing her friend. The brother was positive. She was never even in the same room as him. DD had to isolate.

Ridiculous

Even if you were 2 metres from them, you have to self isolate if you were there for more than 15 minutes. Social distancing reduces the spread, not stops it entirely

Those guidelines say if you were under 2m (and more than 1m) for more than 15 minutes.

What if you were say 3m away for 30 minutes?

No masks in the classroom either

@SingANewSongChickenTikka

Social distancing (and other measures) reduce risk, they don’t eliminate it. When you’ve got a confirmed case it make sense to add in additional measures such as contact isolation.

It might make sense - but is it legally enforceable?

Might have picked it up from a door handle / table surface / crockery / serviette ring / sugar tongs / champagne glass or anything that is present at a day-to-day meeting at 10 Down Street.

"I assume you mean by socially distanced you mean 2m away from.....you know that distance is just an arbitrary one that the government/scientists came up with - it has no medical basis? And in fact coughing/breathing/sneezing can transfer the virus 6ft away or more???"

@ivfbeenbusy 6ft is less than 2 metres 🙈

@ivfbeenbusy

I assume you mean by socially distanced you mean 2m away from.....you know that distance is just an arbitrary one that the government/scientists came up with - it has no medical basis? And in fact coughing/breathing/sneezing can transfer the virus 6ft away or more??? So yes you do need to self isolate

But do you legally have to?

There are rules for WHEN people have to self isolate.
I can't see the actual rule that tells him that he has to self isolate.

A previous MP tested positive ages ago, photos of various MPs inc Boris in HoP definitely closer than 2 metres but they didn't isolate because 🤷🏻‍♀️

@TwoLeftSocksWithHoles

Might have picked it up from a door handle / table surface / crockery / serviette ring / sugar tongs / champagne glass or anything that is present at a day-to-day meeting at 10 Down Street.

Yes - he might have done.

But it's based on close contact. Not on physically touching things.

@OrangeGinLemonFanta

Even if you were 2 metres from them, you have to self isolate if you were there for more than 15 minutes. Social distancing reduces the spread, not stops it entirely.

a person who has been within 2 metres of someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 for more than 15 minutes

That says within 2 meters, so if you stayed apart, as they have claimed, then the OP is correct, you wouldn't need to self isolate.

In my work place if one of our colleagues tests positive we are still expected to attend work, as we are ‘COVID secure’ and shouldn’t have been within 2m of each other.

From his tweet

twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1328231093359812610

He says "It doesn't matter that we were all doing social distancing, if you are contacted by Test and Trace, then you have to follow the rules"

Surely it does matter...

My husband works in other peoples homes. He keeps social distancing and he wears a mask. He has had alerts from track and trace that he's had contact with people with COVID but doesn't need to do anything. Company tells them if they are keeping the distance they don't need to isolate and they have no idea who the person is they has contact with. They could have been there for 30 minutes or 5 hours. 🤷‍♀️

@TheScreamingLady

In my work place if one of our colleagues tests positive we are still expected to attend work, as we are ‘COVID secure’ and shouldn’t have been within 2m of each other.

Exactly. They claim Downing street is Covid Secure, one of the most basic measures is ensuring people have been socially distancing from one another.

Obviously this doesn't count for schools and other education settings, because Covid is magic

You get the phone call and are told to self isolate
Why should you self isolate?
Why? Well, if you’re contacted by NHS T&T , then it’s now a legal requirement to self isolate regardless of what you personally think the situation should be, so....