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Cummings

227 replies

Thedogscollar · 13/11/2020 12:31

Aibu to think this year is slowly improving

  1. Trump is going.
  2. Vaccine on horizon.
  3. Cummings going.
How the unelected bureaucrat was given all that power in first place is another story. Hopefully Bojo will now listen to his electorate for once.
OP posts:
UsernameSaved · 14/11/2020 02:54

Maybe he is trying to get settled somewhere in Europe before the 31st December to get residency.

MrsKypp · 14/11/2020 03:03

@UsernameSaved

Maybe he is trying to get settled somewhere in Europe before the 31st December to get residency.
Yes, you could be right. That'd be just typical of a brexiter wouldn't it. When Brexit comes and the shit hits the fan, Cummings et al fuck off to their luxury villas in the EU.

like Farage who said if Brexit Britain got really bad, he'd simply emigrate.

LondonlovesLola · 14/11/2020 05:28

If Cummings was sacked there is no way he would leave by the front door.

I think leaving publicly was staged by himself. Not Johnson. A public show of defiance? He is after all a villainous Man -child.

DGRossetti · 14/11/2020 08:34

[quote Thedogscollar]@ListeningQuietly
Not what it says on Twitter.[/quote]
Grin

VinylDetective · 14/11/2020 08:45

@LondonlovesLola

If Cummings was sacked there is no way he would leave by the front door.

I think leaving publicly was staged by himself. Not Johnson. A public show of defiance? He is after all a villainous Man -child.

He would if he was escorted out that way. Some show of defiance, carrying a cardboard box and photographed texting on Whitehall looking as if he’s about to cry. He was sacked as a sacked thing.
MrsMichaelPalin · 14/11/2020 08:48

The 'Shapeshifting Creep' should have left with him. A great expression used last weekend by a Biden aide to describe Johnson.

Mittens030869 · 14/11/2020 09:19

I agree with you, OP. I think the same as one PP, that Cummings’s departure could have something to do with the election of Joe Biden to the White House. They won’t be able to renege on the Withdrawal Agreement (no doubt Cummings’s idea) because they won’t get a deal with the US if they do anything that puts the Good Friday Agreement at risk. Biden is of Irish American heritage after all.

Yes the vaccine is the most hopeful news in a very long time time but I’m trying not to get my hopes up too much.

And yes, I’m definitely pleased that Peter Sutcliffe is dead; I was a child in Yorkshire during those dark days and I well remember the fear we all lived with. I was annoyed at the extensive coverage, though, there has been an unhealthy obsession with the monster over the years. I hope the bereaved relatives are left in peace now.

What I was pleased to hear was the apology on behalf of the West Yorkshire police for the appalling attitude towards the victims at the time, dividing them into ‘innocent’ and ‘not innocent’. Forty years too late obviously.

StoneofDestiny · 14/11/2020 09:20

Shame he didn't get escorted out by the police - I recall he despatched a junior worker like that.

StoneofDestiny · 14/11/2020 09:20

Oops sorry ......the police don't tackle such as Barnard Castle Cummings.

MushMonster · 14/11/2020 10:45

I do seriously think this guy would be a great great liability to anyone who employs him next.
Would anyone trust a company that tell you Cummings is working for them? If I were the customer I would exit faster than the speed of light!

RoSEbuds6 · 14/11/2020 11:31

If Carrie is going to be a influence on Our Glorious Leader, I'd like to know a bit more about her. Obviously it's not ideal that she would have influence at all, but if she is keen on the environment and has green leanings that I'll be happy with that tbh.

I really wish we had a decent Conservative in the running for leader. I really liked Rory Stewart and would have trusted him. He was on a R4 programme and came over really well.

nosswith · 14/11/2020 11:35

Dominic Cummings will not be working in Downing Street. He does not leave his job for another month. He does not stop all contact with everyone he worked with, though if the story about Carrie Symonds being nicknamed 'Princess Nut Nuts' is true, probably no more contact with Boris Johnson.

I think he will still have contact with Michael Gove for one.

RoSEbuds6 · 14/11/2020 11:38

One other thing (sorry, I'm on a roll now) I half hoped that the loss of these prominent Leavers meant that there might be an extension to the Brexit negotiations!
Also I don't understand why fishing is such a massive deal, unless when we have complete control over our fishing waters, the government sell those rights to the Chinese.

DGRossetti · 14/11/2020 12:40

A good Daily Mail article today, about the way Dominic Cummings governed
his troops and instilled fear. Well worth a read.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8947985/The-chilling-warning-sent-government-special-adviser-NEIL-TWEEDIE.html

quotes

He delighted in his hold over his 'troops', ordering them to attend
mandatory early-morning meetings, or ones held late on a Friday, during
which he'd make clear who was boss. 'If you leak, you will be marched from
your desk by the head of security at your department, your pass will be
taken off you and you will be sacked. You have no rights.'

I attended some of what was known as 'spad school' via Zoom (thankfully)
because of lockdown. A click on the video button and there he was,
Dominic Cummings, the most powerful unelected man in Britain. He acted
like it, too, sitting at the end of the Cabinet Room table, the Union Flag
draped behind him.

Here was Kim Il-Cummings, seemingly about to explain to the nation how,
regrettably, democracy must be suspended to save the people from
themselves. But instead of the Mao suit, Dom's attire was pure Weekend
Dad. T-shirt or sweatshirt, jeans maybe — studied scruffiness screaming
Silicon Valley blue-sky thinking.

Dom liked to start his Zoom conferences with a pithy monologue, during
which he disparaged stories written by political journalists — the
'reptiles', as he called them.

the80sweregreat · 14/11/2020 13:06

As I said on the other thread, apparently Dominic Cummings lorded it around ' like a rock star' and was very unpleasant ( I know it was Alistair Campbell saying all this , but he sounded in the know)

GreenlandTheMovie · 14/11/2020 13:22

Cummings has always struck me as having some form of ASPD, evidenced by his inability to follow rules and God complex. I'm astonished he's even married, never mind to an aristocrat - he looks awful, he sounds awful and he's not that bright, just bullying and sociopathic. He just diesnt look or sound the part.

The "quality" of peoeple going into politics in Britain now is a real problem, although its often matched by the poor standard of management in the UK too. Perhaps we need more of the west rhenish model prevalent in the Benekux countries. I think clever, decent people are deterred from going into british politics. With a few exceptions. Rory Stewart is a decent guy. I've met him a few times, including before he got involved in britush politics.

MushMonster · 14/11/2020 13:28

I think he is just that prepotent and self pro-claimed superior and thinks we are stupid peasants, which he enjoys having under his thumb.
I would not associate him to other people with ASPD.

IntermittentParps · 14/11/2020 14:44

Also I don't understand why fishing is such a massive deal, unless when we have complete control over our fishing waters, the government sell those rights to the Chinese.
Possibly the Chinese thing, yes. But mainly I think fishing is just totemic to a certain kind of Leaver/Tory twunt who really seriously wet their knickers over it.

I'm astonished he's even married, never mind to an aristocrat - he looks awful, he sounds awful and he's not that bright, just bullying and sociopathic. I think you beg your own question there TBH Grin

UsernameSaved · 14/11/2020 15:26

@GreenlandTheMovie

Cummings has always struck me as having some form of ASPD, evidenced by his inability to follow rules and God complex. I'm astonished he's even married, never mind to an aristocrat - he looks awful, he sounds awful and he's not that bright, just bullying and sociopathic. He just diesnt look or sound the part.

The "quality" of peoeple going into politics in Britain now is a real problem, although its often matched by the poor standard of management in the UK too. Perhaps we need more of the west rhenish model prevalent in the Benekux countries. I think clever, decent people are deterred from going into british politics. With a few exceptions. Rory Stewart is a decent guy. I've met him a few times, including before he got involved in britush politics.

I have heard ASD used more than once from people who have worked with (?) him
Splodgetastic · 14/11/2020 15:27

I think the OP is underestimating Boris’s ability without good advisers. You need people like Cummings to get shit done.

Cornettoninja · 14/11/2020 15:27

Fishing is an independent source of food - one of the few we have. The UK would struggle to feed its own population if all imports stopped and this has been the case for a very, very long time. It’s one of the reasons for rationing during WWII and the following years and the population is much larger now

Splodgetastic · 14/11/2020 15:28

I mean overestimating obviously! Good job I’m not in Commrs...

ListeningQuietly · 14/11/2020 15:31

Fishing is an independent source of food - one of the few we have.
But Brits do not like what is caught around the UKs waters
so most of it is exported
and we import what we want to eat

Fishing is a much smaller part of the UKs economy than video games

ListeningQuietly · 14/11/2020 15:48

I do wonder whether Downing Street deliberately wait until after Chris Grey publishes his blog each week !!!
chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/

Cornettoninja · 14/11/2020 15:58

@ListeningQuietly

Fishing is an independent source of food - one of the few we have. But Brits do not like what is caught around the UKs waters so most of it is exported and we import what we want to eat

Fishing is a much smaller part of the UKs economy than video games

In the case of food shortages preferences would come way down the list of priorities.

Meanwhile, like you say, it’s something tangible we export.