To think the vaccine shouldn't be given out by age criteria?

[studychick81]

I know the data says that the majority of people who get the virus and are most seriously ill or die are the elderly, over 82. But I was quite surprised by the potential order of giving out the vaccine.

1. people in care homes and care home workers- fair enough.

2. over 80s and health care workers.

3. age order oldest- youngest.

4. I don't agree with this. Surely all health care workers should get it before all people over 80? Shouldn't those 50 plus who have underlining issues which means catching it could be deadly get it over a normally healthy over 80 year old?

5. should kids who live with vulnerable adults/grand parents get it before a fit and healthy 40 year old?

6. should teachers, education workers get it before a fit 40 year old?

There’s probably a very sound reason why this has been chosen. I would certainly offer it to teachers.

The potential order I saw was health workers first, then the clinically extremely vulnerable

It’s really not worth getting your knickers in a twist about at this stage while it’s all hypothetical and undecided

I'm not sure why teachers aren't on the list?

1. Care Home Staff and Residents
2. ALL medical patient facing staff across all sectors
3. Teachers (Secondary, then Primary, then HE)
4. The clinically vulnerable due to illness

BBC is linking to the interim priority list here:

1 older adults’ resident in a care home and care home workers

2 all those 80 years of age and over and health and social care workers1

3 all those 75 years of age and over

4 all those 70 years of age and over

5 all those 65 years of age and over
high-risk adults under 65 years of age

6 moderate-risk adults under 65 years of age
7 all those 60 years of age and over
8 all those 55 years of age and over
9 all those 50 years of age and over
10 rest of the population (priority to be determined)

link here and Who will have the Pfizer vaccine first and when can I get it? [[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-54880084 here]]

Teachers aren’t on the list because there is no evidence they are at high risk simply because of their profession.

Teachers should not get it above clinically vulnerable. And I’m a teacher!!

They aren’t allowed to wear PPE. I’m not a teacher but I’d say that warrants consideration

Sorry, BBC link here.

And interim priority list here

There's no evidence because the government isn't collecting it.

Teachers have died from covid. The prevalence of the virus is higher in teachers than the rest of the population.

'Teachers aren’t on the list because there is no evidence they are at high risk simply because of their profession.'

I'm with you, but wait for the pile on in 3...2...1...

The order does seem a little off. Perhaps it needs refining.
Surely CEV first. Then age order?

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

I'm not sure why teachers aren't on the list?

1. Care Home Staff and Residents
2. ALL medical patient facing staff across all sectors
3. Teachers (Secondary, then Primary, then HE)
4. The clinically vulnerable due to illness

Hahahahawhahawwaawaaaa

Teachers should be up there on this list.

'The prevalence of the virus is higher in teachers than the rest of the population' Source? Because that is rubbish and you know it.

I would've thought that they would give it to the same people that are eligible for the flu jab firstly.

@Brokenfurnitureandroses

Teachers should not get it above clinically vulnerable. And I’m a teacher!!

I'm pretty certain that would never be considered. But I do think that teachers in secondary schools (again, I'm not one of them) should be not far behind, say 60 year olds, since the people they're stuck in a classroom with are going to be the last to get a vaccine.

@Hercwasonaroll - that’s just not true. See this government study from the summer of Covid in schools, and this report on the low numbers of Covid outbreaks in schools.

And this from the WHO which certainly doesn’t suggest that teachers are at particularly high risk.

I do think teachers should be bumped up that list, but I am pleased that those people who kept saying that we should let the old people die will now be told that the old people get the vaccine before them :)

Clinically vulnerable should be high up on the list, surely?
And teachers should certainly be on there before all and sundry.
I would also thought there would come a time when it would stop being oldest to youngest (50?) and then start with the children before young, healthy adults.

See this government study from the summer of Covid in schools, and this report on the low numbers of Covid outbreaks in schools.

Schools were closed in the summer. And open to very few students before the holidays. Of course those numbers will be low.

@Hercwasonaroll

There's no evidence because the government isn't collecting it.

Teachers have died from covid. The prevalence of the virus is higher in teachers than the rest of the population.

Have you managed to get the data? There was some in early in the year but not seen anything recent.

Teachers should be on the list because of the high risk of catching it and resulting disruption to schools.

If individual teachers are in that list upthread, they'll get it at the same time as others with the same priority.

Those who've been stuck in their homes shielding since March should absolutely be first. I can't begin to imagine how miserable that must be.

Free the shielders!