Aibu? Are you really following lockdown rules?

[CoronaOneSoz]

I work and kids are at school but I've been following the lockdown rules. Not met anyone. I know I could bubble up as I'm a single parent. Anyway i spoke to my sister and parents today and they have all met up together. Sister has 2 kids and a husband, the kids go to school and they both work. My parents are still relatively young and work, no health issues. They also still have my other sister at home who also works. I was abit shocked but they just laughed and said they don't care they will still meet up. I'm not pissed off I'm more disappointed with them. Aibu for feeling like that? Just been told I need to lighten up as i told them they are breaking the rules.

I think people have lost sight of the reality of how the virus spreads and thst is indoors. Those bending the rules to let kids play or teens socialise (both very important for groups of young people who will not get sick) are doing it outdoors where it's safeer.

We should be encouraging outdoor socialising to keep people healthy and mentally well.

So many people are just taking that decision now because we can't all stay hidden away forever.

Lockdown is a cruel and harsh measure which we all went along with very strictly the first time. It is totally unsurprising that several months in people are making sensible decisions on how they can meet people they care about safely ie. In the park having a walk or chat.

Priti Patel saying mingling is a crime was a horrific overstatement of the government's powers to interfere in our liberty and people should be a lot more concerned a our our human rights

@FromEden

I can't help but think people who are still happy to meet with friends and family don't care about them very much or they wouldn't risk infecting them.

The same could be said for any other virus - colds, flu, norovirus etc. But no one ever says it about those because its ridiculous.

Yup.

It's also possible, FromEden, that the people whom they are meeting think it's all a load of inflated nonsense, too, and are willing to take their chances.

@Writerandreader

Lockdown is a cruel and harsh measure which we all went along with very strictly the first time. It is totally unsurprising that several months in people are making sensible decisions on how they can meet people they care about safely ie. In the park having a walk or chat.

Priti Patel saying mingling is a crime was a horrific overstatement of the government's powers to interfere in our liberty and people should be a lot more concerned a our our human rights

I didn't go along with it the first time, and I'm not going along with it now.

I could never, ever have imagined that we would allow this to happen, and that so many people would positive welcome it.

@Strawberrypancakes

I think everyone needs to stop concerning themselves with what everyone else is doing.

In general, I agree with you, but in this specific case, I emphatically do not. This isn't casual acquaintances, this is immediate family. If it were my family, I'd go "no contact" with them until this thing is (someday) somewhat under control.

I have several physical issues, each one of which puts me at higher risk of dying should I contract COVID-19. I almost certainly would not survive it. I am rigorous in mask-wearing, social distancing, decontaminating anything that comes into my house (which makes for 5 hour grocery shopping trips what with all the wiping down). What others do, or do not do, can drastically affect my own health. IT IS MY BUSINESS right now.

My parents are mine and my sisters childcare(four school aged children), we both work with kids and our husbands both work in retail so we are having contact with a lot of people every day. I follow the rules, mostly. The fact that I’m not allowed to socialise with my parents who look after my kids every day is absurd so I visit them whenever I please, no one is telling me different.

Following the rules even though some of them don’t feel like they make sense (e.g can’t have my mum to my house for a socially distanced cup of tea but allowed to meet her in a cafe with other people and unable to distance from her).

I can see why some people are ‘bending’ the rules. However I feel in my job as a teacher that morally I need to do what I can to keep myself and others safe in work where we are already at an increased risk. I’d imagine I’d also be in trouble with my employer if I wasn’t following the rules.

However I am frustrated that a lot of our cases in schools have come from senior pupil parties, parents sending in kids waiting on test results or symptomatic. If we are taking the risk to provide schooling in these times (and high risk teachers are still in schools) then we need the kids and their parents to meet us halfway and follow the rules as much as possible to keep each other safe.

No I am not. I wear a mask and wash hands etc but I am not licking myself in like a prisoner. I have to see my mum and help her so get a train to her weekly. But I am visiting family and visa versa as it's all nonsense!!! This second lockdown is a joke and ruining peoples livelihoods !!!! As I have said if masks work then why isn't everyone working and keeping a wage coming coming in????? And the virus is absolutely not as deadly as those made up figures. More peoe unfortunately have died/dying of untreated cancer than those of the virus. Made up statistics but people believe it!!!

You’re information is flawed @nicky7654. Where are your statistics from? You choose to believe what allows you to do what you want. Convenient.

Looking at this from a USA perspective, I am following all the rules. My personal freedom does NOT give me the right in endanger someone else if I am infected and do not know it. With rights come responsibilities. Of course, my own viewpoint is not shared by a lot of my fellow countrymen. I, however, am mourning 11 dead loved ones, friends and relatives, and I am taking no chances.

@nicky7654 what data are you working with then? If you have a better source could you share it with the rest of us?

Yes..nurse here. Vulnerable dp. This 'lockdown' makes me uneasy...obviously I can only control my actions but very worried re attitudes/actions of some of people I work with.

I live too far away from family to meet up. For various reasons we were unable to see each other much last year so I have really missed them.
Dh is on the shielding list , so stuck to rules 100% . Haven't been shopping since March. Didn't unlock when rules were relaxed in the summer , accept saw a friend in the garden.

I followed the first rules to the letter. Not so much with these.

Yesterday I did non-essential travel to meet meet my cousin for a walk outdoors. I'd had a very difficult medical appointment in the morning and knew that going straight home to sit by myself wasn't wise.

This weekend I'm going to visit my DM with my young DS.

We've also been out for some non-essential shopping trips.

Don't feel guilty about any of it.

Mostly, except using grandparents for respite childcare as well as when working.

I am annoyed at the sentiment that it's only a month so we should suck it up. My parents in rural Yorkshire have been locked in since March, barring about 5 weeks in July and August. The move to tiers actually relaxed their mixing rules.

@Ingridla

I'm following the rules. Everyone who isn't are the reason this will continue. Ffs

This.

I haven’t been in a pub, restaurant, cafe or non essential shop or visited friends indoors since the first lockdown. I get the vast majority of my grocerIes delivered. I can count on my fingers how many times I have been in a shop since march. I am already working from home so this lock down hasn’t meant any big changes for me.

Not really tbh. People have been to my house and I went out the other week to do some non-essential photography because I was bored. It's hard to take it seriously when govt officials broke the rules last time and nothing happened to them.

This.

I haven’t been in a pub, restaurant, cafe or non essential shop or visited friends indoors since the first lockdown. I get the vast majority of my grocerIes delivered. I can count on my fingers how many times I have been in a shop since march. I am already working from home so this lock down hasn’t meant any big changes for me.

You do realise that, once restrictions were lifted, people doing those things weren't actually breaking any rules? You can't expect people to live like that when there's actually no lockdown.

@FromEden

I can't help but think people who are still happy to meet with friends and family don't care about them very much or they wouldn't risk infecting them.

The same could be said for any other virus - colds, flu, norovirus etc. But no one ever says it about those because its ridiculous.

I don't agree with this really. One, covid is not a cold, flu or norovirus and not really comparable. Two, for years I have avoided seeing elderly of vulnerable relatives when I have a cold or flu, let alone sickness bug, because it could still affect them badly. It's much easier to manage that because according to a virologist I heard interviewed, flu doesn't have asymptomatic transmission which makes it a totally different ballgame.

Following all the rules, except when I am at work (school) where it is impossible to distance from the children.

My parents in rural Yorkshire have been locked in since March, barring about 5 weeks in July and August. The move to tiers actually relaxed their mixing rules

This.
The reality is, this is how millions of people have been living. In, out, in out, down to the point where people living on neighbouring streets in the same council area were under different rules where I live, during a particularly nuts period in the summer.

I am following the rules. But lots of my friends and family, having not seen their own friends and loved ones since March, are relaxing them slightly. And I completely understand why.

I know it must seem so simple to many, but the reality for lots of us in the North is that this latest lockdown isn't much of a change at all. Apart from more shops are shut now, as is after-school wraparound care, meaning we're more reliant than ever on childcare bubbles.

Yes.....mostly.

MiL is in our bubble, we have hunkered down. I normally provide informal child care for my nephew- which has stopped until December. DP working from home- I work in a very safe environment.

However, my Mum had a MH crisis last week (there is a history) & I went to her. She is not in my bubble but I just couldn't leave her -she was in such a terrible state & my Dad was distraught too, he was unable to calm her. I spoke to my DSis first and she agreed one of us had to intervene.

Op, I feel for you.

I'm a single mum and have had to ban ds's dad from the house because he hasn't altered his social life at all. Still having various people over, as is his partner. Refuses to wear a mask.

He may choose to be terminally stupid - he's late 60s so more vulnerable than most, but he doesn't have the right to put us in danger. DS told him he didn't want to go and stay because he's being silly and ex went mad. He's lost 14lbs so now BMI of 25 and he thinks that makes him immortal. I just don't get why he's being such an idiot.

Dominic Cummings.
Margaret Ferrier MP.
Stanley Johnson.

Have they still got off scot-free from disobeying the roolz?

I'm not following them anymore. I did but I've been really unwell since March and can't get any proper diagnosis or treatment because covid. I wish it was socially acceptable to punt kick those who say I clearly don't care about others because of it.