To question what Biden's win means for any UK trade deals (economy)?

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I'm delighted about Joe Biden's and Kamala Harris' election win! Great news! The world seems to be happy about this result too! Yay!!!

However, reading reports about the future of UK and US relations following this change in power at the White House, AIBU to be a bit worried for Britain?

The UK is in the middle of Brexit trade negotiations that will impact the economy. Can/will the Biden win impact trade negotiation deals one way or another?

Boris Johnson congratulates Joe Biden on US election win 'Special relationship' may face downgrade...

"They won't be seen as natural allies: Joe Biden, the seasoned Democrat, and Boris Johnson, the bombastic Brexiteer.
In looking at how their future relationship might work, it's worth considering the past. Specifically that seminal year, 2016, when Donald Trump won the White House and the UK voted to leave the EU. Both Mr Biden and his boss at the time, Barack Obama, made no secret they preferred another outcome on Brexit." - Jessica Parker, Political Correspondent

A special relationship or back of the queue: What could a Biden or Trump victory mean for the UK economy after Brexit?

Brexit and the US election: What the Trump v Biden result could mean for the UK

And many more...

What's everyone else's thoughts?

sashagabadon " and in between China and the US"
Have you looked at a globe?

Biden will be coming after the UKs NHS aiming to break it up and privatise healthcare. He has a history of keeping promises made to campaign donors, not constituents.

On 25 April 2019, the day he announced his campaign, Biden went straight to a fundraiser co-hosted by the chief executive of a major health insurance corporation. He refused to sign a pledge to reject campaign money from insurance and pharma execs and raised millions from these healthcare industry donors. His campaign was literally bankrolled by a super Pac run by healthcare lobbyists.

What did these donors get so far? A Bidencare healthcare proposal that preserves the power of the insurance industry, leaves 3%/10 million Americans uninsured and during the first 10 years of Bidencare, over 125,000 unnecessary deaths will occur from this lack of insurance.

You can guess what they’ll want to get in the US/U.K. trade deal- the NHS.

As an Irish woman, living in the Republic of Ireland I’m not ashamed to say I cried with happiness and relief during Biden’s speech last night.
This is the first significantly Good Thing that has happened since that utter pig of a year, 2016.
The peace in my country (and yours) will be protected now, and that is a huge deal.
Biden will be signing the US back into the Paris Accord, great news for our Planet.
The EU leaders will be very happy (apart from the likes of Erdogan and Le Pen which says everything).
As for the UK, it’s a bloody great thing that the UK doesn’t have to get into bed with tRump. It would not have been a good experience.

Whoever it was, it isn't going to be a great experience for the UK - The only people who think so are massively ill-informed Brexitteers.

@TheNewLook I've lived and worked overseas several times. Nothing like working in international environments to make you understand how you fit into the global picture.

Under Obama, the US wargamed Brexit and concluded that there was no version that would leave the UK better off (they tried to warn us, but that's another story).

Then Brexit happened, and Vice-President Biden was blunt that he thought it a mistake.

Now we have President Biden, and a new appraisal of Brexit - how does it affect US interests. And it's not looking good. Seems team Biden feel there is no version of Brexit that does not harm US interests

And that last phrase is all you need to remember. The US interest in Brexit is to ensure the US comes out on top. Not the UK. And given the mood music from the assembling team Biden, it appears US-EU relations are going to be well ahead of US-UK relations.

That's before you add anything about a Biden-Johnson personal relationship into the mix.

However, hopefully - no thanks to our own government - we can enjoy some food standards now.

All those rejoicing his win today might want to consider what it means for their home country and its post-Brexit status in the world.

Exactly like Brexiteers did you mean ?

These posts make very clear how much some of you hate your own country and want to see it suffer

Love my country. I want to see it prosper - and there is a way that it can prosper in a post Brexit world.

The way our Government is going about it is not the way to see it prosper.

US-EU relations are going to be well ahead of US-UK relations

If that's true, it's only true because UK is forcing "us or them" choice.

He won’t let anyone mess with the GFA, and probably doesn’t think a lot of the (racist) comments Boris made about Obama having something against the UK because he is part Kenyan and it was a colony

I think Boris insulted Biden directly, and that would be enough.

Interestingly it's vice-president Harris that hasn't forgotten how casually racist our Prime Minister can be. That might be an interesting meeting depending where the UK slots into team Bidens transition plans ...

I agree that a UK-US trade deal will be low on the list of immediate priorities, but I don't think it was every actually very high on Trump's list of priorities either! He just said a few things to keep Boris (one of his few international allies) on side but really he didn't care much either way.

The crucial difference is that with Biden being Irish-American, and not being a nutty isolationist like Trump, it changes the political climate in terms of reneging on international treaty oblifgations. Therefore we are much likely to do some sort of deal with the EU, doubtless pretty similar to the "oven-ready" one that Boris assured us he had already agreed (including checks in the Irish sea).

Thank God the UK's fortunes will not be harnessed to Trump!!!

Sanity has prevailed in the USA and now needs to prevail here in the UK!

Given trump is now a loose cannon President till Jan 20th is it possible he could try and agree a trade deal with the UK before he goes? Johnson loves a quick (and ill thought out) deal and Trump would like to hamper his successor.

I know the deal would have to get through the US house and Pelosi has said the GFA must be respected. But is it possible Trump and Johnson will conspire to get the trade deal done before Trump goes?

Regardless, having a sane reasonable person in the White House, is worth any amount of political pressure to not jeopardise the good Friday agreement

A clip of an exchange between BBC New York correspondent Nick Bryant and Mr Biden from the campaign trail went viral on Saturday.

Asked for a quick word, Mr Biden tells the reporter: “The BBC? I’m Irish.”

I am not hopeful that the UK will be getting any concessions or even a fair hearing here. I do find it interesting how many Americans cling to their ancestry for identity though, Biden's family left Ireland in the 1850s, I believe.

They don't cling to their ancestry. They are Americans with a love and respect for how they got there. I have American family. I am confident that they are Americans first and foremost.

Well I’m immensely grateful that riding roughshod over the GFA wont be such an attractive prospect for Boris now.

Brexit is happening whether we like it or not. Anyone who thinks 'Boris will be fucked' and 'haha, he'll struggle' should open their eyes.It's not Boris who'll be fucked.

Enlighten us . Who will be fucked?
I have every sympathy for anyone who suffers because of Covid-19. But if you voted for Brexit and suffer because of it? Tough Shit.

Not sure I get your point @LazyFace

@bellinisurge

They don't cling to their ancestry. They are Americans with a love and respect for how they got there. I have American family. I am confident that they are Americans first and foremost.

How many generations have they been there? A lot of Americans I know certainly love referring to their ancestry, even if they love being American.

I’ve had Irish Americans assert that they are as Irish as I am (I have an Irish parent), and make very misguided comments about Irish nationalism, so I do think some people in the states do hang on to that sort of this

^sort of thing

I'm delighted

Boris is now in a complete corner. Biden will seek assurances that the UK won't undermine the GF agreement or break international law in any other sense (and rightly so). It must now be transparently obvious (if it was not so already) that the UK's special relationship to the US was founded on its usefulness as a bridge in the EU. Otherwise, the UK is just a small island with delusions of grandeur. Those are not good grounds from which to negotiate with the EU. But if the PM seeks an extension (which he desperately needs) he's toast within his own party, as he's indulged the hard Brexiteers too long. This is not a pretty awful position for the UK to be in, but it is the logical conclusion of this whole (foolish) path.