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Neighbour asked us not to do fireworks?

785 replies

lockdownqueen · 05/11/2020 16:57

I'm in a group chat with girls on our new build estate I've sent out a pre warning as hubby has gone and bought some. Everyone was fine and said they will be in there gardens to watch then one of the girls asked us not too as her dog has severe panic attacks.

don't know what to do? Kids have been looking forward to them.

aibu to go ahead and do them?

OP posts:
Jakie7700 · 05/11/2020 18:11

To all those who say sedate your animal maybe you should fucking sedate yourself and do everyone a massive favour.

ilovesooty · 05/11/2020 18:11

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

Every single fun thing has been taken away from kids this year. Trick or treat. Their nativity plays. Their pantomimes. In many instances, time spent with grandparents at Christmas.

The one fun thing they can do, as an out-of-door activity, and people are claiming they should forfeit that, too?

Wholly unreasonable. On Guy Fawkes night and New Year's Eve, people will be letting off fireworks. It's a known practice. It's not as if there hasn't been enough notice.

The onus is on the owners of animals to take responsibility for their charges, not the rest of society. And yes, I do love and have owned animals: cats, horses and dogs, none of which are keen on firework noise. But their mental wellbeing shouldn't come at the expense of that of children.

There are massive bangs going of round here terrifying animals. I don't think children's mental health stands to be impacted for life by not being allowed to set fucking fireworks off in gardens.
PollyRoulson · 05/11/2020 18:11

Personally I dont like fireworks as I have livestock and dogs. However if they are on Nov 5th or New Years that is fine and I can do things eg bring in all the animals to stop them damaging themselves when they bolt in the fields . Drive the dogs to a quiet place etc.

For me the problem is when it goes on for weeks and it is had to guage when they will happen

SixesAndEights · 05/11/2020 18:12

Hysterical the suggestions from people to take dogs for a walk tonight!!!!

I'm a person who is 100% behind a ban on anything but controlled displays. Sales of fireworks to the general public should be banned.

Having said that, they're not, and having a little display where kids are looking forward to watching them, trumps a neighbour who's come in at the last minute to ask you not to do it.

The solution for me would be to empathise with her, tell her the time of them, don't go outside the times you've said, and think about those affected by fireworks for next year - not just animals but people.

Carishina · 05/11/2020 18:12

You are being unreasonable and selfish. Why bother sending a message round if you’re not going to listen when someone raises an objection?

EatDessertFirst · 05/11/2020 18:13

@stillsomewhatsheldonesque

Plenty of people have ptsd from gunfire,mortars, ieds.

Why aren’t silent fireworks or at least quiet ones good enough?

And if you really think it is only two nights each year, then you are sadly mistaken.

Indeed. I've said similar on other threads. DP has combat PTSD and has to heavily medicate himself for two weeks as wankers don't just stick to Bonfire Night.

However, these dickheads don't concern themselves with vunerable people, domestic and wild animals, the litter and fires that the rubbish from their rockets will cause etc. They don't consider the effect on the NHS at a time when it should be burdened as little as possible.

They just want shiny bang bangs coz covid. How dim can you get?

SixesAndEights · 05/11/2020 18:13

Every single fun thing has been taken away from kids this year.

Only if you've got no imagination and are determined to focus on what they can't do rather than the opportunities to do something different.

Inpensity · 05/11/2020 18:14

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Poorpigletsrevenge · 05/11/2020 18:15

I think telling her the time was the right thing to do, that way she can prepare her dog.

You won’t be the only ones setting off fireworks. Enjoy!

Boshmama · 05/11/2020 18:16

Yabu

hiredandsqueak · 05/11/2020 18:17

I've bought ddog a thundershirt as she hates fireworks, it seems to be worth every penny as she is currently snoozing through the many fireworks banging and fizzing around us.
I would prefer that fireworks were banned but I'm less irritated by the ones on 5/11. There have been fireworks every night though for a fortnight now and most likely will be for a few more days, it's this that infuriates me.

NotYouAgainTom · 05/11/2020 18:18

It’s November 5th, there will be fireworks, everyone who owns a dog, including me knows this. Why are people so dense.

compulsiveliar2019 · 05/11/2020 18:18

YABVVVU and extremely selfish

It's not just pets it's people with mental health issues who are affected to.

The day they ban the sale of them to the general public will be a very very happy day.

SunshineCake · 05/11/2020 18:19

As soon as we knew next doors dog was scared of fireworks we stopped doing them. He has died now but we still don't do them as we have pets and live on a close with lots of cats and dogs. Ds2 just did giant sparklers and was happy with those.

LEELULUMPKIN · 05/11/2020 18:19

I live on an estate and last year some fucker's rocket shot through my conservatory window.

Up until that point my Dog was fairly cool about them, having desensitised her to them from a pup.

She is currently cowering in the corner.

They are dangerous and anti-social.

Petition here to get them banned for private sale if anyone is interested.

www.change.org/p/office-for-product-safety-and-standards-review-firework-rules-to-protect-animals-from-injury-and-distress/psf/share?cs_tk=Aomd_zu4TpOAB_cTqF8AAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvKyA1Kh0S5NFOQATGShn46Y%3D&pt=AVBldGl0aW9uAFLq0AAAAAAAX6QfdQqwido3Mzk5MDY2NQ%3D%3D&source_location=aa_sign_ask&utm_campaign=bccdd0c0fb364066a88ac8687c546344&utm_content=initial_v0_1_1&utm_medium=email&utm_source=aa_sign_ask&utm_term=cs

keeprocking · 05/11/2020 18:19

@ZoeTurtle

It's more important to teach your children empathy (and have some yourself) than to set off fireworks.

Can't wait for private firework sales to banned.

Utter rubbish, if she capitulates to bullying and spurious excuses she is not doing her children any favour. Her neighbour needs to learn to take responsibility for her dog who allegedly is super-sensitive. Let her take it out into the country for the evening.
MinnieJackson · 05/11/2020 18:20

I have really anxious 11 year old dogs, we've got loads going off here tonight. Luckily they're sedated and not too bad but we have to prepare. Other years have been awful and I know some dogs that the sedatives didn't work for. I think it was considerate of you to give notice but I don't know what I would do in your situation

eng306060 · 05/11/2020 18:20

What bluntness said.

I couldn't do something that I knew would cause terror to a dog. You're also creating a terrific headache for the future with your neighbour. Witnessing her dog in that state (and possibly dying) and knowing you just don't care will never be forgotten.

lynsey91 · 05/11/2020 18:20

@movingonup20

Tell her when you will be starting so she can have her dog inside and put the volume up on the tv
How loud would the tv have to be to drown out the awful ones that sound like a bomb going off and make windows rattle?

I have tried turning my tv to full volume and could still hear the fireworks over it. I bet my neighbours loved it!

Flowerpot345 · 05/11/2020 18:20

I think they should be banned from public sale, I have seen so many incidents on the news of house fires caused by idiots using them, people firing them out of cars at pedestrians and aiming them at police as well as sticking them through peoples letter boxes.

Also pretty fed up of people setting them off at my childrens bedtime every day this week on a school night.

My mums dog is a rescue and he has a terrible time hearing them and gets in such a state, for the idiot poster that said train it out of them you clearly have no idea!

Fireworks should only be used by licensed people for public displays.

ilovesooty · 05/11/2020 18:21

@Sirzy

Small ones designed for gardens at an early time and for a short amount of time is fine.

But having DS currently squashed under the sofa with ear defenders on I very much get people not liking them especially when they know they cause distress.

I'm sorry to hear your son is distressed. Hope they stop soon where you are. But of course to some posters the only children who matter are those who are going to have their mental health impacted by being denied a few bangers.Angry
catsrus · 05/11/2020 18:21

@dudsville

I have dogs. Some are bothered, some are fine. My dogs, my house, I help them cope. I've successfully taught one to get over his anxiety by closing the windows and putting on white noise, but the pops and cracks could still be heard just enough, and we intentionally watched the fireworks with him whilst giving treats and pets. He's now fine, just a little curious. Your neighbour can work on this with her pooch.
this.

I've got one dog on my lap ATM due to the fireworks, its taken 4yrs (he was a rescue) but he no longer shakes like a leaf, he just doesn't like them. It's taken work, and we used herbal calming pills the first two years, but, it was my job to help him deal with it.

NOT making a big deal about it helps, he will now take treats during them and allow himself to be distracted. I keep the TV on and just carry on as normal. The other two barely flinch or notice them.

Enjoy your fireworks.

Nordman · 05/11/2020 18:22

Another one here who can't wait for fireworks to be banned from private sale. They should be in organised licensed displays only. Why should the general public have access to actual explosives to set off in their garden or wherever they feel like it with no idea whether they are doing it safely. Unfortunately it's not just one night anymore. Where I live fireworks are going off every night for three weeks including bonfire night and diwali. They don't all go upwards. I've seen them shoot across the floor towards dogs and walkers, one this week went into another garden and another exploded against the wall of a neighbouring house. I'm sure the fire service dread this time of year!

stillsomewhatsheldonesque · 05/11/2020 18:23

I’m bloody sure shiny bang bangs wouldn’t be happening in their houses if they’d experienced explosives for real @EatDessertFirst
I claw my way through this time of year.

Have them in organised displays by all means. I can get myself far away. I would rather they were either silent for home use or banned completely.

It is hard.

fat9fool · 05/11/2020 18:24

We spent all evening playing very loud Heavy Metal music to the dog. He didn't turn a hair.....we both had headaches though.....