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Neighbour asked us not to do fireworks?

785 replies

lockdownqueen · 05/11/2020 16:57

I'm in a group chat with girls on our new build estate I've sent out a pre warning as hubby has gone and bought some. Everyone was fine and said they will be in there gardens to watch then one of the girls asked us not too as her dog has severe panic attacks.

don't know what to do? Kids have been looking forward to them.

aibu to go ahead and do them?

OP posts:
crosstalk · 06/11/2020 12:38

Another one here with a nervy dog. I love fireworks FWIW. Previous dogs were fine but this one isn't and drugs, diffusers etc don't help her. I can prepare for Nov 5th, but not for Nov-Jan and the odd wedding party when I don't know when it's happening. The problem is the random nature and the noise .. and can be equally bad in rural areas with hills where the sound bounces round for ages ... and the people letting them off wouldn't think of contacting everyone in a valley. So another one voting for silent fireworks and - preferably - just public and well heralded displays.

Newfornow · 06/11/2020 13:15

And we wonder why people are so entitled these days,I can’t imagine for a second asking people “can you all miss fireworks it upsets my dog”.

LittleGwyneth · 06/11/2020 13:22

Why ask if you weren't planning to listen to the response?

Willyoujustbequiet · 06/11/2020 13:24

Its so entitled of people to think their pet trumps the enjoyment of others and I say that as a dog owner.

Im against home displays in normal circumstances but this year is different. I feel children are having a really hard time and they come first. Dogs arent stressed by Covid kids are.

A responsible pet owner should take steps to mitigate any distress their pet suffers on bonfire night. Not expect others to

GlummyMcGlummerson · 06/11/2020 13:25

I'm not a fan of fireworks, I don't go to the shows, I find them too loud and boring - but I'm really getting sick of dog owners whining because other people aren't putting some random dog they don't know before their own enjoyment.

There are techniques and medication to help keep dogs calm. Use it. Don't rely on others to keep your fur baby happy.

stillsomewhatsheldonesque · 06/11/2020 13:27

Just as entitled letting off explosives for shits and giggles and setting someone’s house on fire.

Because those entitled people will be rushing to pay the damages eh?

And will be yelling themselves ‘well it won’t have been mine’ but they won’t ever know. Because they had no safety precautions in place and no knowledge about playing with explosives.

GlummyMcGlummerson · 06/11/2020 13:31

@stillsomewhatsheldonesque

Just as entitled letting off explosives for shits and giggles and setting someone’s house on fire.

Because those entitled people will be rushing to pay the damages eh?

And will be yelling themselves ‘well it won’t have been mine’ but they won’t ever know. Because they had no safety precautions in place and no knowledge about playing with explosives.

The vast majority people have safe, quick displays in their garden and don't set out to set people's houses on fire Hmm
SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 06/11/2020 13:45

I was on the phone to my elderly mum last night - she hates loud bangs - thunder and fireworks in particular. She was obviously stressed last night because people nearby were letting off fireworks - some really loud ones - as she says, once it starts, she just gets more and more stressed waiting for the next explosion. She has heart problems and lives alone, and I do worry for her.

I do wonder whether part of the problem is that we can buy such powerful, loud fireworks now - the sort of things you'd only have seen in a licenced display when I was a child - and whilst these are fine in open areas and proper displays, they really are not suitable for closely packed suburban gardens - they are just too loud.

Maybe if the fireworks that were available to the public were less powerful and quieter, and you could only see the really massive, loud ones at proper displays, that would be a reasonable compromise.

BenWyatt · 06/11/2020 13:48

It’s so entitled of humans to think their brief enjoyment of something so harmful to the environment, people, and animals, trumps everything else.

hibbledibble · 06/11/2020 13:49

My dog was so distressed last night I was worried she might die or injure herself. In the end I wrapped her in a blanket and lay on her, which helped a bit, and stopped her injuring herself, but she was still very stressed.

Please, if people need tog Dr fireworks, thing get quiet ones. There is no need for loud bangs

slipperywhensparticus · 06/11/2020 14:08

I love how everyone trots out children/bad year/need enjoyment on these threads
My children

A,loved this year because no school and mum 24/7

B,are terrified of fireworks

my three cats enjoy them more than my sons one was welded to the windows all night when the back neighbours finished he ran to the front of the house to see the other neighbours fireworks...my bloody cat

stillsomewhatsheldonesque · 06/11/2020 14:20

They might not intend to set houses on fire but the fact is someone’s fireworks did just that last night.

A reasonable risk of that in a built up area and it is totally avoidable.

I’m sure the family involved will be delighted that they added the spectacle of a burning house to the proceedings.

Loads of oohing and aahing at that.

And weeping and wailing.

Such fun.

Winterterrace · 06/11/2020 14:36

HibbleDibble have you asked your vet about diazepam? Just for Bonfire night and New Year’s Eve?

GlummyMcGlummerson · 06/11/2020 14:44

@stillsomewhatsheldonesque

They might not intend to set houses on fire but the fact is someone’s fireworks did just that last night.

A reasonable risk of that in a built up area and it is totally avoidable.

I’m sure the family involved will be delighted that they added the spectacle of a burning house to the proceedings.

Loads of oohing and aahing at that.

And weeping and wailing.

Such fun.

And an not insignificant number of dogs kill people each year but we don't apply that situation to every single dog do we and prattle on about "look at those owners just letting their dogs kill people, must be so much fun for them".

Because that would be ridiculous.

Bookworming · 06/11/2020 14:51

*And an not insignificant number of dogs kill people each year but we don't apply that situation to every single dog do we and prattle on about "look at those owners just letting their dogs kill people, must be so much fun for them".

Because that would be ridiculous.*

100% this!

DynamoKev · 06/11/2020 14:51

For the first time I can remember in my 58 years we didn't have any fireworks last night. DD was disappointed but not devastated. I have a small box we didn't use last year so we will keep it in case we are allowed next year. I really think some of vitriol on here about fireworks is OTT.

stillsomewhatsheldonesque · 06/11/2020 14:57

Not what I was saying but on you go.

Remember and apply it to children, cars, motorbikes, risky sports etc. Equally ridiculous.

But it wasn’t a dog letting off fireworks last night was it?

I have put why I don’t like them. Im sorry if you think noises like bombs are entertaining and setting off explosives are a fun thing to do. I don’t.

On that we will have to differ.

dkdkfhfkdsl · 06/11/2020 15:00

This really pisses me off. When people get a dog, they know full well there'll be fireworks every single year, and they know how dogs react. Their choice.

I hate dogs barking, but have to put up with that every single day of the year, something dog owners seem to think everyone else should have to put up with too. They're just being selfish - don't let them spoil your fun.

safariboot · 06/11/2020 15:14

I think motorbikes are a good analogy actually. Nobody needs to zoom around at 70 miles an hour balanced on two wheels just for fun. Hundreds of bikers are killed every year and thousands more seriously injured. There's a lot of antisocial behaviour and crime associated with them in both urban and rural areas.

But we don't have a massive campaign to ban motorbikes.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 06/11/2020 15:19

@dkdkfhfkdsl - I don’t think there is any way to predict whether a dog will react badly to fireworks before they first encounter them.

Our first dog was utterly unconcerned by them, until recent years - as I said in my earlier post, our second dog (a rescue) was neurotic from the word Go, and hated fireworks and thunder, and I think some of her unease rubbed off on the first one.

I don’t see how we could have known that the first dog would develop a nervousness about fireworks in her later years, and the rescue we got the second dog from had no indication that she was going to be scared of loud noises - she was only in the shelter for a month, and presumably didn’t encounter either fireworks or thunder whilst there, and I don’t think her previous homes were particularly good owners so may well not have bothered to tell the shelter the relevant info. I know that they didn’t know many details about either of her previous homes, so I don’t think it is a stretch to assume they didn’t bother to hand on relevant info.

stillsomewhatsheldonesque · 06/11/2020 15:26

Stdg and schade

Thank you for last night. Flowers

lynsey91 · 06/11/2020 15:42

@Bookworming

What does eventually mean *@lynsey91*, in the next millennium?

I don't think this year is worse than any other year.

Well as I don't have a crystal ball I can't tell you but I do think they will be banned at some stage.

Every year there are more and more stories about animals being injured or even dying, fireworks being thrown at emergency service people, on to buses etc and more and more people think they should be banned.

Bookworming · 06/11/2020 15:46

Your opinion is they should be banned @lynsey91 and it's said year after year, but they're not and people can still enjoy them.

I've just read in another thread about an out of control dog jumping up on a mother wearing her baby in a sling, very dangerous, could've hurt the baby, mum could've lost her balance and fallen.

Should dogs be banned?

We here about them killing people, babies, young children. Police are attacked by them, time taken up going to seize them, just ban them, why not?

Bookworming · 06/11/2020 15:46

Hear not here!

lynsey91 · 06/11/2020 15:47

@Winterterrace

HibbleDibble have you asked your vet about diazepam? Just for Bonfire night and New Year’s Eve?
So what are they meant to do on all the other nights that idiots let fireworks off?

My friend has a dog that is terrified and has to be sedated. So far this year she has been sedated for 2 weeks with no let up in sight. That's ok is it?

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