Wokeness? Meaning?

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Can someone explain in simple English what 'wokeness' means?

Ok I see. What about the privilege bit, are they the same?

Yes. It is exactly the same theory regardless of who you apply it to.

Ok. Male privilege/White privilege are 2 sides of the same coin and both theories are considered unwoke. Got it.

Thanks for answering Stripes.

This woman popularised it in ‘The Invisible Knapsack.’

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peggy_McIntosh

Both were together.

Lola, I think some of the ideas have spread beyond the core believers and some people now have a blend of different perspectives, including a bit of woke.

They are often the ones most likely to get bullied by the woke!
Quite true there.

The dominant feature of woke people is the ability to be so convinced their view is the only correct view that everyone else needs to educate themselves and learn the truth.

It's where some of the left have gone wrong. Instead of caring about genuine systemic inequalities, the agenda seems to be dominated by loud blue haired woke young adults who seek to cancel and silence anyone who they don't agree with. They're so certain that they're right whilst also being terrified anyone might hear different views.

This is my favourite reflection on wokeness -

Thanks Stripes. Enjoyed reading it. Confirms a lot of what I say...to myself...in my head.

@SarahBellam

It means giving a shit about something other than yourself.

This Although for some unfathomable reason it's thrown around like it's supposed to be an insult by people who "just say it like it is' and want to carry on treating other people like they always have cos Political Correctness Gawn Mad!

‘So if your main interest is women's rights and issues, you're not accused of wokeness, virtue signalling and being professionally offended
If your main interest is black people's rights and issues, you are?
Or are they in the same boat?’

People who take a rights based approach usually aren’t woke. It makes no difference if it is about race or sex

How come if you call out racism then, you can still get called woke, or so woke your brains have fallen out?
People who just want to carry on being racist fling it about a lot

Because people who use phrases like ‘call out’ generally are woke!?

Ok but isn't this 'policing language' (as those who accuse others of wokeness say)?

Is it about them using the words "call out" or is it about what they're actually 'calling out'?

I honestly see a lot of double standards and similarities in both camps. Both are usually accusing each other of the same things while doing the same things.

Search Twitter for Tracey Ullman Woke Support Group.

I'm not on twitter but did a search online and found a lot of different stuff on Tracey Ullman. Is it a twitter account?

‘Ok but isn't this 'policing language' (as those who accuse others of wokeness say)?

Is it about them using the words "call out" or is it about what they're actually 'calling out'?’

It isn’t policing language. I am not asking for someone to be fired, investigated, excluded or in any way punished for or prevented from using the phrase ‘call out.’

A random person calling someone racist on social media and being called woke in return doesn’t really have anything at all to do with human rights. It is just name calling on the internet.

Is it about them using the words "call out" or is it about what they're actually 'calling out'?

Exactly

Just seen the video, if that's what you meant. The ending was hilarious!

But to be fair, I see no jokes about women's issues or did I miss it?

Never mind, watched again.

Titania McGrath (Twitter) satirises woke really well.

@SarahBellam

It means giving a shit about something other than yourself.

Or - more accurately - pretending to do so.

Although for some unfathomable reason it's thrown around like it's supposed to be an insult by people who "just say it like it is' and want to carry on treating other people like they always have cos Political Correctness Gawn Mad

Spoken like a true wokester: people who jest at performative compassion on whatever topic is fashionable must be mean nasty bigots who think the world has gone mad.

Aka. We're right and everyone else is wrong. We care and everyone else doesn't. We're tolerant and nobody else is.

Heaven forbid there were millions of people in the world who manage to care about issues that are important to them, engage in activism and campaigning to tackle inequality and magically manage to do that whilst understanding different views, and not feeling the need to silence people, no platform those with different views.

As someone said up thread, woke people are like the pharisees

It's now being used as an insult: snowflakes who are overly-woke. The Tracey Ullman overly-woke support group clip makes me laugh, it's clever.

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It's means tweeting a lot on Twitter without actually knowing much or doing anything. And then asking Julie Bindel what she's ever done for women's rights.

Spoken like a true wokester
Yay

Aka. We're right and everyone else is wrong
How is racism (which is the example I gave in my posts) NOT wrong?
OK, people are perfectly entitled to be racist but it doesn't and won't ever make it right, even the most racist think they are.
Why am I apparently only pretending to give a shit if I say no?
(Which a poster upthread said)

Heaven forbid there were millions of people in the world who manage to care about issues that are important to them,

Of course there's nothing wrong with caring about issues that are important to them.
Just because I'm white though, I shouldn't care about racism (if I do I get a new woke cookie?)
Just because I'm straight, doesn't mean I shouldn't learn about LGBT issues and rights?
Should just stay in my lane?
Nice world (not) if we can only all just care about ourselves and no-one else.