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chomalungma · 05/11/2020 07:52

An interesting perspective

www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-1-electoral-vote-from-nebraska-district-could-prove-pivotal-to-his-white-house-bid

Maine and Nebraska split their college votes - which seems a bit fairer than all going to 1 candidate.

And 1 vote could help!

DuncinToffee · 05/11/2020 07:53

Sky news summary

🇺🇸 Battleground states 🇺🇸

  • Biden closing the gap in Georgia (16 EV) & Pennsylvania (20 EV)
  • Biden lead in Arizona (11 EV) - but Trump closing gap
  • NC (15 EV) Trump ahead
  • Nevada (6 EV). Biden ahead by 8k votes (86% votes counted) >
AbsentmindedWoman · 05/11/2020 07:54

It's far too early to be confident of Arizona which is what brings Biden's total to 264.

chloechloe · 05/11/2020 07:55

Oh no. Arizona is looking really tight but the CNN number crunchers think Biden can hold on. If it goes red that will be embarrassing for all networks that have declared it as a Biden win.

I’m slightly relieved by the fact that Georgia is still up for grabs if the remaining votes are indeed solid blue.

Another day where I’m not going to get any work done, I can’t concentrate and am fueled on caffeine!

TheNorthWestPawsage · 05/11/2020 07:57

Senate and House results have turned out to be disappointing. Irrespective of the results though, I think there were some outstanding Dem candidates who, hopefully, will continue along their paths to be the (younger!) new faces in the party.

From Washington Post:
As the presidential race headed toward a photo finish, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) faced a political letdown that, so far, resembled their failure in 2016 when Trump was elected.


In the highly anticipated ­Senate matchups, Republicans scored easier-than-expected victories in Iowa, Kansas, Texas, Maine, Montana and South Carolina while establishing narrow but steady leads in Georgia and North Carolina.


Democrats’ slim chance at claiming the majority appears to rest on Joe Biden clinching the presidential race and Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.) falling below his state’s legally required 50 percent threshold, which would set up two runoff elections on Jan. 5 in Georgia that, if Democrats won both, would deadlock the Senate at 50-50.


In that scenario, once Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D) was sworn in as vice president, she would provide the Senate’s tie-breaking vote, handing the chamber to Schumer.

House Democrats struggled to come to grips with how they managed to lose seats after Pelosi and party strategists predicted gains of 10 or more that would give them commanding control over the chamber.

Instead, they appear to be headed to the smallest House majority in 18 years.

AdventureIsWaiting · 05/11/2020 07:58

@Everybodyfednobodydead the other thing I had wondered re Biden, based on articles /analysis I have been reading including the Melania one linked yesterday, is whether he's the only one with equal name recognition in a country where celebrity = power. Otherwise the democrats would have had a double battle on their hands, not just dealing with Trump but also getting people to know their guy (I was going to write 'candidate' but I can't see either party picking a woman in a hurry Hmm) in the first place. The election seems to be more about getting Trump out than providing the best possible next President.

(And since I'm delurking to post this, just wanted to say thanks to the regular posters who have been a source of brilliant sanity over the past four years!)

chomalungma · 05/11/2020 08:02

From the BBC

If you are seeing different tallies at the top of the live coverage from various news sites, you might well be confused.

This is because some news sites have projected wins in Arizona (meaning an extra 11 electoral college votes) and Wisconsin (10 electoral college votes) for Biden.

The BBC still considers these too early to project.

This year, the BBC gets its data via Reuters, from polling firm Edison Research, who do the field work for the exit polls and work with US networks in the National Election Pool.

In Wisconsin, 99% of the votes have been counted, with the candidates neck and neck.

In Arizona, 85% of votes have been counted, and Biden is leading with 51% of the votes, with Trump on 48%.

The watch word this year is "patience". Stay tuned and we will bring you updates as soon as we have them.

Cacacoisfarraige · 05/11/2020 08:07

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lovelemoncurd · 05/11/2020 08:09

I really don't understand why certain states can't get the ballots counted in good time and why other more highly populated states can?

ListenLinda · 05/11/2020 08:10

Morning all, do we think it will likely be today we find out for certain, or will it be Friday do we think?

Hoping Biden holds on.

chloechloe · 05/11/2020 08:12

@Cacacoisfarraige

This made me laugh. I’m guessing he’ll be looking for somewhere without an extradition treaty
Brilliant!
chloechloe · 05/11/2020 08:14

@lovelemoncurd

I really don't understand why certain states can't get the ballots counted in good time and why other more highly populated states can?
I guess it’s because different states have different rules, so some can start processing mail in ballots before Election Day whereas others can’t touch them until the polls have closed.
DuncinToffee · 05/11/2020 08:15

lovelemoncurd States have differnet rules regarding the counting, this article explains it a bit
www.cbc.ca/news/world/ballot-count-delays-in-results-u-s-election-1.5789738

DuncinToffee · 05/11/2020 08:18

Saw this going around on twitter Grin

This is how an election count looks in a well-functioning democracy.

Election Part 2 (Trump thread #108)
TheNorthWestPawsage · 05/11/2020 08:19

Arizona don’t let us down! We have close family in Flagstaff and Tucson and they’ve been confident so far...

I think most of the Arizona votes still to come are from the Tucson area - population young, Dem friendly, home of University of AZ. Other areas to come more rural, fewer votes.

lovelemoncurd · 05/11/2020 08:19

The fact that they have different rules for a National election- that's mad!

Roussette · 05/11/2020 08:20

I really don't understand why certain states can't get the ballots counted in good time and why other more highly populated states can?
Because some Republican run States agreed not to count mail in votes in advance of election day, so they couldn't get a head start on the huge volume.
Then that would give Trump the chance to threaten legal action of votes being counted days after. Which is exactly what he is doing and why his supporters are outside shouting 'Stop the Count'.

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Roussette · 05/11/2020 08:21

Duncin love that. We need Mr. Buckethead and Screaming Lord Sutch to be normal 😂

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Blueberries0112 · 05/11/2020 08:25

From what I read, coronavirus was slowing them down too

Some places use machine, other hand count

MoonJelly · 05/11/2020 08:27

Interesting interview on R4 just now with a Trump supporter who suggested that if he loses the Republicans will want him as their candidate next time around. If ever there was an incentive for prosecution, that has to be it.

Blueberries0112 · 05/11/2020 08:28

@Cacacoisfarraige

This made me laugh. I’m guessing he’ll be looking for somewhere without an extradition treaty
Well he does have land in Scotland, he is going to enjoy his socialist new home
DumplingsAndStew · 05/11/2020 08:29

Just wanted to add my voice to those thanking you all for this thread. I haven't followed the threads before the election went live, but appreciate the calm and rational narrative, which is really helping to make sense of what's going on.

Flowers
DuncinToffee · 05/11/2020 08:30

A bit more light relief whilst waiting, Jimmy Kimmel this time

twitter.com/jimmykimmellive/status/1324237813143937024?s=21

DumplingsAndStew · 05/11/2020 08:30

@Blueberries0112

Have you seen how welcomed Trump is in Scotland? 😂

RedToothBrush · 05/11/2020 08:32

@MoonJelly

Interesting interview on R4 just now with a Trump supporter who suggested that if he loses the Republicans will want him as their candidate next time around. If ever there was an incentive for prosecution, that has to be it.
Its the very reason that Biden shouldn't if he wins. It looks undemocratic and could destabilise the country.

Unfortunately for that reason i think hes in the clear and untouchable on a lot of things.

Except perhaps tax. Theres always tax.