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To think people will expect fireworks to be let off on bonfire night.

299 replies

j101112 · 03/11/2020 17:47

Bought a few fireworks for Thursday night. Mainly garden type fireworks, not rockets. Meant to be lower noise.

We live in fairly large village and it’s been said that many dogs, cats, horses etc don’t like them and people have complained about them being let off.

Aibu to think people should expect them on actual bonfire night though?

I get that they are annoying on other nights other than bonfire night.. I do think that people should try and just do them on 5th November or NYE and proper advertised displays.

Don’t want to upset my neighbours!

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ScrapThatThen · 03/11/2020 18:20

I have come to the conclusion that it has tipped into being socially unacceptable these days. I wouldn't have thought twice three years ago.

RincewindsHat · 03/11/2020 18:22

My dogs are terrified of fireworks, so I would definitely appreciate a note through the door if any of the people in my road were going to be letting some off in their gardens, especially my immediate neighbours. I would not expect people to not let them off, but advance notice would definitely be lovely :) that said, as I am anticipating audible fireworks at my house, I'll be at my parents which will likely be quieter (before anyone starts shouting LOCKDOWN I live alone and they are my bubble).

felineflutter · 03/11/2020 18:23

YABU

user65423546256 · 03/11/2020 18:24

I have PTSD. Knowing that some people might be stupid enough and selfish enough to let off explosives near my house for "fun" doesn't change the effect of it on me.

Nobody "needs" fireworks.

Juanmorebeer · 03/11/2020 18:25

I absolutely love fireworks and would always be the first to buy tickets for a display.

However I don't agree with them being available for private sale for gardens because of the immense pressure it puts on our emergency services every winter.

Things are really stretched as it is so if you really insist on doing it then please, please be so careful as I have seen some horrific things happen before.

I8toys · 03/11/2020 18:25

One night is fine. My cats hate them but its to be expected. However they are going off right now - its the bloody 3rd! Maybe because its not raining so they are taking the chance I don't know but if it was relegated to one night or one weekend it would be fine however its not unfortunately.

Heyahun · 03/11/2020 18:26

Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks should or shouldn’t be allowed

It’s not illegal so do what you like

blue25 · 03/11/2020 18:29

It’s fine to let off fireworks on bonfire night. So many moaning people around!

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 03/11/2020 18:34

I don’t think anyone needs advance notice that there will be fireworks on 5th November.

There are many many things which people don’t need but enjoy doing, which are either dangerous, unhealthy, loud, or disturb people and no one thinks we should ban them.

MiniMum97 · 03/11/2020 18:34

"Nobody needs fireworks" No, but people need joy. Especially at the moment when it is hard to come by. And maybe not to you but fireworks bring joy to many people myself included. It made a huge difference to me when I was feeling very anxious after BJs announcement the other day but a neighbour set off some fireworks. It was a small bit of welcome relief.

We can't all like the same things but when you live near others you have to have a bit of give and take.

I have a cat who used to hate fireworks (but is now used to them thankfully as she's got older and wiser). She is also terrified of hoovers and people but that wouldn't stop me hoovering the house or having people round.

Puffalicious · 03/11/2020 18:35

YANBU we'll be having some fireworks, as usual. Son with ASN so big displays and crowds don't work for us but he loves fireworks. We do it safely and only on the 5th. We live in a big city so there's plenty of others do the same.

I feel for pets and people who don't like them but it's only one night.

I think you calling me and others stupid and selfish user is way off and unacceptable, infact. It's legal and a tradition in the UK. There's plenty things I don't like that I avoid. i suggest earphones on and a good box-set or selection of music.

EatDessertFirst · 03/11/2020 18:38

Fireworks in gardens are dangerous and anti-social and should be banned fullstop. 'Lower noise' foreworks are bullshit too.

If you insist though its fine on the actual nights (Bonfire, Diwali) at a reasonable time (5pm till 8ish for example when its dark and children are still awake) but around here there has been idiots having fireworks every night for a week and some as late as 2am!

My DP has combat PTSD and has to be dosed up to the eye balls at this time of year so I have no truck with selfish garden firework fuckers.

RaspberryToupee · 03/11/2020 18:39

Personally I don’t think people should be allowed fireworks in their gardens. Mainly due to the health and safety side. People are more likely to drink at home, people don’t know the trajectory of fireworks. Fireworks in gardens cause so many accidents and fires. They should be only be done at official displays by professionals.

The fear experienced by humans and pets is secondary to that in my mind and I’m a pet owner.

Mistymonday · 03/11/2020 18:39

@Ohtherewearethen

No, it's not ok. People, pets and wildlife have no option but to be terrified by the dreadful things. They cause animals to die of fright or injure themselves trying to escape the awful noise. They are harmful to the environment. The sooner they are banned, the better.
100% this

Also air pollution

YABU

PaddyF0dder · 03/11/2020 18:41

I mean, it’s a sectarian holiday and it’s massively upsetting to animals and small kids.

But shiny thing go bang.

nonevernotever · 03/11/2020 18:42

I would prefer organised displays only - I do accept that my view is coloured by the teenagers round us who throw lighted fireworks at passers by. And not just on Bonfire night itself but for weeks either side.

Ginfilledcats · 03/11/2020 18:42

I don't normally mind, though I feel mean on the animals and people who suffer with PTSD etc.

However this year I think they should be banned due to the increased pressure the accidents will cause onto the ambulance service and the stretched hospitals.

I used to work in Manchester Hospital and I've heard of a child losing an eye, another with 3rd degree burns, another lost the use of their hand. Many adults with severe burns and surgery too. Why why why take the risk when you know the ambulances are stretched (my local service declared a major incident yesterday as so many staff off sick and a surge in call outs, I live near Liverpool and patients were being sent to Preston and Blackpool!).

But I guess it's inevitable that people will do them at home when all the public displays are off, and people need a bit of cheer.

I do have a new born so I might be going mad when they inevitably wake her lol

Asdf12345 · 03/11/2020 18:43

You must, its a tradition that is worth defending.

Our dogs love fireworks and our horses also just stand and watch. If you keep pets in a country with a tradition of fireworks you have a responsibility to acclimatise them to the things and not to try and change the country to suit you.

Furbs · 03/11/2020 18:43

There is a huge difference between an organised firework display and multiple households letting of fireworks over a longer period of time and you have no idea when that may be.

My last dog was terrified and quite honestly I think anyone who can't see that is quite ignorant and unbelievably selfish.

RoseTintedAtuin · 03/11/2020 18:44

I have no problem with organised events on bonfire night or NYE etc but I strongly disagree with private use/sale of fireworks, they are a health and safety hazard, they disturb people in their own homes, noise pollution and have a terrible impact on animals which as op have said the effects can last for hours. My dog doesn’t take any notice of them but I have seen dogs completely petrified hiding under tables for hours wrapped in towels. They are in their homes too and should not have to feel petrified there. Their owners won’t take them to organised events to protect them but by setting them off in the garden there is no way for owners to shield them.
Fireworks are fun but the damage they cause far outweigh the benefits. I realise this year displays are off but if you want to show your neighbours compassion and respect I would avoid backgarden displays

Clymene · 03/11/2020 18:45

They're not illegal but they're about as welcome as sitting in your garden drunkenly singing at 3am.

So if I were your neighbour, I wouldn't say anything but I'd think you were selfish and a bit thick.

unmarkedbythat · 03/11/2020 18:46

I think fireworks really should only be for licensed events because the dangers are ridiculous.

I don't remember people getting so worked up about the effects on pets in my childhood, tbh, but then I suppose that was (long) pre social media so we weren't all able to ramp one another up so much. And also in those days it didn't seem so common for fireworks to be going off night after night after night- bonfire night itself and the closest Saturday night if it had fallen on a weekday, and that was about it.

Meowza74 · 03/11/2020 18:47

I hate them and wish they were illegal except in organised displays. Household garden fireworks should be banned.

But I accept they'll happen 5/11 and NYE.

FourTeaFallOut · 03/11/2020 18:51

YANBU. As much as people will complain you are legally allowed to have fireworks and nobody has ever taken on a pet without the expectation that people will be doing just that on bonfire night.

Obviouspretzel · 03/11/2020 18:53

In real life, I have literally never seen anyone complain about them when used on the accepted days and at reasonable times.

To all the pet owners though that say no one needs fireworks. Well no one needs pets either. What about the people scared of dogs in the park ? How about when you walk past someones house and a dog starts barking and going mad and your kid is crying their eyes out ? Same thing really. It's annoying. It happens. Move on.

I have sympathy for the PTSD sufferers though , and the ones with dementia. I have sympathy for the animals too, but it's just one of those things that happens that they don't like. Lots of things happen in my life I don't like and I don't expect them to be banned.