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Ericaequites · 02/11/2020 01:40

I would rather be an English dog than a Saudi woman. Women have very few rights there; it’s not a life I would choose. In Hell proper, I woukd meet people I knew, including relatives.

SeverusSnape1 · 02/11/2020 01:43

No, it's not safe for a woman!

SomeOfUs · 02/11/2020 01:43

Hi,

I read full of shit messages about Middle East. I worked there as a WOMAN, but never had an issue. I had lots of friends from all over the word including USA, Europe, Asia and so on..

One lady asked for the country. This is very good question!!!

Personally I have no doubt to work Alone in Qatar, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Oman maybe Kuwait. But, I wouldn't go to Suudi Arabia with my family. There is no women rights, and one day it's possible someone to catch you, and say that now you are gonna be his wife..

My father in law works there alone, and some friends all alone.

Their families are in their home countries while the men earning money 🤣

So, as sum, I would not go because it is dangerous.

SeverusSnape1 · 02/11/2020 01:44

And what's he doing ANNOUNCING to you he is going to ME? That's not a decision you just make yourself and inform your DW when you're married!!!

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gg12346 · 02/11/2020 01:44

thank you i think my marriage is just on the brink of getting over :) best of luck to me

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WhereYouLeftIt · 02/11/2020 01:44

@MrsTerryPratchett

Would I go to a place where women have very few rights, with a child I might not be able to bring home without a man's permission, with a man who just announced he was moving to another country with no discussion?

No. I wouldn't hit myself in the face with a brick either. Because I'm not insane.

This ^.

He's already treating you as property, announcing it to you not discussing it. Living in Saudi will reinforce his piss-poor attitude. You don't want to go, so don't go. This is not a good place for a woman to live.

"There is no feeling left to always wander around."
Not sure what you mean by this @gg12346. Can you explain further?

ilovepixie · 02/11/2020 01:45

Would you be living in a company compound? Or in a normal house/flat in a city street?

Mamamia2020 · 02/11/2020 01:47

Saudi Arabic is not dangerous, I know many ex-pats that after living in the North African Country I live, then in move to Saudi or one of the Gulf countries. Many of them end up living in compounds with other expats and have a very good standard of living. I personally wouldn't want to live there (I think) BUT as long as I wasn't burning any bridges at home i.e selling the home, I'd be more than willing to give it a go, even if just from an educational perspective.

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gg12346 · 02/11/2020 01:49

Is Saudi arabia that bad :( never knew

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Krampusasbabysitter · 02/11/2020 01:49

Saudi Arabia would be a hard no, even if totally loved up. You will have zero rights, be confined and actually under enormous risk. Your husband meanwhile can go out and about and lord it over you.

IdblowJonSnow · 02/11/2020 01:51

No, I wouldn't go. It has zero appeal to me. As a feminist I wouldn't go. And as a mother I wouldn't go. If you want to leave and he doesn't, I'm not sure if you'd get to take your child with you.

NeonGenesis · 02/11/2020 01:52

I've been to Saudi Arabia. There isn't enough money in the world that would make me want to live there for even a month. However, I know others who quite like it out there. I think it really depends.

My advice would usually be to go out there and visit the place as much as you can, but I'm not sure how that would work during a pandemic. You may have to make a blind decision on this one.

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gg12346 · 02/11/2020 01:53

I am not going for sure .

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seayork2020 · 02/11/2020 01:57

No, after seeing the news from the last week or so I don't even want to stop over there

bengalcat · 02/11/2020 01:59

I would only go if I had a high earning job myself and for a finite period of time .

GlamGiraffe · 02/11/2020 02:01

Saidia arabia. Life would be nothing like like as you know it. Transitioning somewhere like that isnt just about moving, its about adobting and fitying into a whole new way of life. You cant even walk out with your husbsmd in the same wzy you can here.
If he knrw uou weren't going and this was a deal bresker he wouldn't need to pay off the mortgage so fast. He needs a reality check fheck rsther than being dild a dream lifestyle where everurhing is golden.
My friends hsbamdxwas sent on a 2 year and 1 year olacement yo Qatar and Saudi. Shezwas afvised by the company (a major internationalcompany who place people there continually and have done for years) that in reality wives and children find it incredibly difficult there and the wives are very ipset by what the percrive to be the immense testrictions and oppresion on them. They advised she was wrlvome to go or they would pay for separate accomodation ay home while her DH was Away. She stayed at home, Visited twice and was confident it was the right choice.
If ot is still an option for you, you need to go and see what its like thete. Every one feels differently about things whats bad for one person is not a problem for another.
Your main problem is the fact your husband us making unilateral decisions without discussion.this needs addressing

Krampusasbabysitter · 02/11/2020 02:02

My father spent a number of years working on projects in Saudi Arabia and he speaks fluent Arabic and was very respected due to his knowledge of Saudi architecture. However, he ensured that he spent alternative months with us in Europe and never made us come visit. He was always careful, as while many of the Saudi aristocracy were drinking alcohol, he never touched a drop, as he knew it could be used against him. While he was always treated with utmost respect due to his top position, he witnessed many times how capricious and rather cruel a lot of the bored men were. They viewed European women with zero respect, especially the English. He advised some of the younger contractors not to bring their wives, as he feared for their safety. This isn’t hyperbole but a real concern. There are thousands of rich princes who have experienced very few obstacles and are used to getting their own way with an incredibly corrupt and skewered system. But they are just the tip of the iceberg of one of the most oppressive country in the world for women and horrendous human rights records. Despite the incredible incentives and perks, my father stopped taking on further projects due to some of the incidents he witnessed with how domestic workers for example were abused etc.

Peridot2020 · 02/11/2020 02:03

After the recent Qatar Airways event at Doha airport I wouldn't even want to pass through the region en route somewhere else now, not ever. If we're ever allowed to make it to New Zealand or Australia we'll be going by boat, or the long way round via somewhere modern like Japan or Singapore, if necessary.

To put this in context, I've known several people, including (male) relatives and former colleagues (former nurses and/or educators), who have worked in the Middle East, for the money, and I briefly considered it myself a few years ago.

Have a look at some of the other threads on here for details of life in Saudi. Good luck, whatever your decision.

BathTubGin · 02/11/2020 02:04

@gg12346

its a city in Saudi Arabia

No I would not go to Saudi

I would go to some places in the middle east but not saudi.

kubex13 · 02/11/2020 02:05

I'm curious as to how many of the pp have any actual experience of life Saudi Arabia?

I lived there for 4 years as a single women and never had an issue.

Beautiful country, friendly people and amazing food!

HeddaGarbled · 02/11/2020 02:08

You’re not unreasonable not to want to move, but why can’t you live in London with your child?

seayork2020 · 02/11/2020 02:12

@kubex13

I'm curious as to how many of the pp have any actual experience of life Saudi Arabia?

I lived there for 4 years as a single women and never had an issue.

Beautiful country, friendly people and amazing food!

I have never been to Afghanistan, Syria, Sudan, Bali, Artic Circle, Benidorm either I am sure the local people are perfectly nice, and they have beautiful scenery and great food - but no I would not want to live there either and many other places

GlowingOrb · 02/11/2020 02:15

Look up the guardianship laws in Saudi Arabia. No decent man would ask his wife to even visit.

SomeOfUs · 02/11/2020 02:18

@Peridot2020

After the recent Qatar Airways event at Doha airport I wouldn't even want to pass through the region en route somewhere else now, not ever. If we're ever allowed to make it to New Zealand or Australia we'll be going by boat, or the long way round via somewhere modern like Japan or Singapore, if necessary.

To put this in context, I've known several people, including (male) relatives and former colleagues (former nurses and/or educators), who have worked in the Middle East, for the money, and I briefly considered it myself a few years ago.

Have a look at some of the other threads on here for details of life in Saudi. Good luck, whatever your decision.

What happened in Doha Airport??

NeonGenesis · 02/11/2020 02:21

I'm curious as to how many of the pp have any actual experience of life Saudi Arabia?

I've moved around all over the world, so I often come to these threads in the hope that I can give some useful advice. IME these kinds of threads are mostly full of posters who have never even been on a holiday to the country that they are advising the OP not to go to.